Mountain Biking - WInter tyres - what's not icy enough?

Been reading this thread:
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=369227

Is there any thickness of snow/ice that is too thin to use these rivets/screws?
For example, they grit a lot of roads and although the side might be icy, the middle would be tarmac but occasionally as big snowfall and everything would be snow again.

I imagine it'd be ok, because the poster of that thread put the majority of the studs on the sides, so it would still roll decently.

BUT, IDK, I've never ridden with studded tires in the snow.
and when I was in Alaska, my BMX didn't fair to well.

I imagine it'd be ok, because the poster of that thread put the majority of the studs on the sides, so it would still roll decently.

BUT, IDK, I've never ridden with studded tires in the snow.
and when I was in Alaska, my BMX didn't fair to well.

So, if you ride on roads that have a mixture of ice sometimes, snow sometimes, and tarmac sometimes, it is best to put the studs on the sides?

So, if you ride on roads that have a mixture of ice sometimes, snow sometimes, and tarmac sometimes, it is best to put the studs on the sides?
What effect will cycling on a few studs directly when on flat tarmac have?

I cant answer from first hand expirience, BUT
I'd Imagine it'd be a little more bumpy and vibrations. Harder rolling resistance as well.

My LBS has actual bike studden tires. Little metal spikes on a thick tire.. spikes are places along the edges rather than directly in the middle.
not as agressive as the bolts, but same purpose.

I can't answer from first hand experience, . . . .That is why you should not respond to threads like this, young grasshopper, even though you have the ability to type the words.

I ride studs all winter long on my commuter bike. They are amazing on ice. They are good on hard pack snow. They are useless on powder. And they are a chore to spin on pavement. Loud and slow. But the real issue is that they get worn down fast riding on pavement.

jim

That is why you should not respond to threads like this, young grasshopper, even though you have the ability to type the words.

...but he's a damn sight more entertaining that 90% of the pozguers on this forum. I say let him post....

That is why you should not respond to threads like this, young grasshopper, even though you have the ability to type the words.




ah, but I'm neither wrong or 100% right lol.

no harm done =)

edit:

and I figure that If I post here, someone with the more correct knowledge will come here to see what"hackness" I have posted, laugh, and then post more correct information to help the OP out.

I like to help, or at least assist in helping lol.

Studded tires can be used on any surface. Depending on the aggressiveness and number of studs, they can be very slow. Rivets/screws close the center of the tread can cause traction loss on hard surfaces like concrete. But for riding on glare ice they're essential. If your bike slips enough that your side studs finally engage the ice, you're almost certainly going down anyways.

My LBS made me a set of winter tires quite a few years ago. They used real ice-racing screws (intended for cars) and put them along the outer edge of the tire. I rode around doing wheelies on skating rinks. I never found my traction lacking despite not having studs down the middle of the tread. I would think it's overkill, and adding unnecessary weight to an already heavy tire if you add them to the middle.

and when I was in Alaska, my BMX didn't fair to well.

fare?

That site is bassackward, dood. Use some Pan Head machine screws and run them from the inside out. Use some good adhesive and a fillet'd DH tube as a tire liner.