Training & Nutrition - Vegans

Any other vegans out there?

Yes, there's a few of us here.

I'm an almost vegan. Cheese and eggs are the only dairy I ocasionally eat. I do allot of vegan baking

I'm a vegan as well...

who wants to know?

I'm 99.99% pure... :lol: So pure I am almost a floater.:lol:

The next level is fruitarians and then the next level is breatharians.

There are a few. With diet I usually am (I draw the line at being invited to dinner, christmas and thanksgiving, etc), but find it pretty much impossible to avoid ever buying stuff that uses animal products or testing...tires, tubes, medicine, etc

There are a few. With diet I usually am (I draw the line at being invited to dinner, christmas and thanksgiving, etc), but find it pretty much impossible to avoid ever buying stuff that uses animal products or testing...tires, tubes, medicine, etc

No, there aren't any "vegan" tires or tubes that I know of (it can be done, but I guess there just isn't enough demand for them). But, most of the times you can find medicines without any animal-based products. There's a site out there somewhere that lists animal-based ingredients found in medicines. I can't remember the site right now, but I remember it was easy to find via google.

Coming from a non-vegan who is considering changing over - are there any cycling specific (or general sports specific) vegan diets listed somewhere?

Thrive by Brendan Brazier.
80/10/10.

vegetarian. I eat eggs, cheese (no milk though) and honey.

Thrive by Brendan Brazier.
80/10/10.

Thanks!!

vegitarian here.

Thrive by Brendan Brazier.
80/10/10.

Yep. http://www.amazon.com/Thrive-Nutrition-Optimal-Performance-Sports/dp/0738212547/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1249908564&sr=8-1

But, I have to admit, while I have that book, I don't really follow it. I just follow my normal diet, and it does fine for me. If I was ultra-competitive, I may have to look at my diet more closely, but as a vegan you get plenty of carbs anyways, so my diet works well for the type of riding I do.

Thrive by Brendan Brazier.
80/10/10.

really? does brazier actually put forth this macronutrient split? from my observation of people on the thrive plan there seems to be a wheelbarrow of nuts and seeds eaten every day... leads me to believe that breakdown is way higher on the fat.

plus: americans should note that brazier is a big fan of hemp protein, which may not be available in your area.

http://www.solarhealing.com/sgprocess.htm

Yep. http://www.amazon.com/Thrive-Nutrition-Optimal-Performance-Sports/dp/0738212547/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1249908564&sr=8-1

But, I have to admit, while I have that book, I don't really follow it. I just follow my normal diet, and it does fine for me. If I was ultra-competitive, I may have to look at my diet more closely, but as a vegan you get plenty of carbs anyways, so my diet works well for the type of riding I do.

It's not about just getting enough carbs, it's about getting the correct ones. Sure, you can eat bread all day, but you'd be missing the point of the 80/10/10 philosophy.

really? does brazier actually put forth this macronutrient split? from my observation of people on the thrive plan there seems to be a wheelbarrow of nuts and seeds eaten every day... leads me to believe that breakdown is way higher on the fat.

plus: americans should note that brazier is a big fan of hemp protein, which may not be available in your area.

80/10/10 is a different book by a different author.

Any Whole Foods or natural foods store will carry hemp protein. It's even cheaper online, too.

It's not about just getting enough carbs, it's about getting the correct ones. Sure, you can eat bread all day, but you'd be missing the point of the 80/10/10 philosophy.

True, but I do fine with what I eat, and I don't really stick to what Brendan lays out. Works for me, but may not work for someone who races or trains harder than I do.

Any Whole Foods or natural foods store will carry hemp protein. It's even cheaper online, too.

noted. i did, in fact, mis-speak (mis-type?) on that. i meant to state that brazier is a big fan of protein derived from eating hemp seed, not protein products isolated from hemp seeds and sold as a mix or bar or similar.

i am under the impression that selling hemp seed is much more restricted in the united states than in canada, although i may be wrong.

This forum is a pretty good resource:

http://www.veganfitness.net/

noted. i did, in fact, mis-speak (mis-type?) on that. i meant to state that brazier is a big fan of protein derived from eating hemp seed, not protein products isolated from hemp seeds and sold as a mix or bar or similar.

i am under the impression that selling hemp seed is much more restricted in the united states than in canada, although i may be wrong.

I don't know. We live in a pretty redneck, backwoods town and we can find hemp seed at our local grocery store and our local co-op.

really? does brazier actually put forth this macronutrient split? from my observation of people on the thrive plan there seems to be a wheelbarrow of nuts and seeds eaten every day... leads me to believe that breakdown is way higher on the fat.

plus: americans should note that brazier is a big fan of hemp protein, which may not be available in your area.

What is with this hemp thing? Now I realize its an easy plant to grow, and can grow in many conditions, but last I looked, not too many indegineous people throughout the world are milking hemp seeds, brewing hemp beer, or isolating hemp protein, or for that matter, eating or drinking hemp at all (except for the obvious). I am no expert, but have travelled a ton and gotten pretty familiar with food in most of the world.

the 'hemp thing' is basically just that it's an acceptable protein with a good amount of efa's and it's easy to grow and process... plus the plant fibres are a fair replacement for cotton if you like your cotton scratchy and wood pulp if you like your paper coarse.

and as for indiginous peoples... well, it never really ocurred to me that it's not a common food amongst first nations here... but, then again, neither have been the banana or the tomato.

Good point I suppose. I just noticed it getting common as a "foodstuff" or whatever you would call it in the last few years and it kind of suprised me. Interestingly enough, black eyed peas were not considered fit for human consumption until the depression, commonly anyway.
My wife got me some hemp beer a few months ago and it was...interesting.
I do think you cannot beat it for making fabrics though.

This forum is a pretty good resource:

http://www.veganfitness.net/

Great link, thanks!

Checked veganfitness. Holy cow!
Vegan tires! I never would have guessed it!

I just noticed it getting common as a "foodstuff" or whatever you would call it in the last few years and it kind of suprised me.

personally, i've found just about every processed hemp product to taste like a gritty implementation of a cross between flax oil and a compost heap (blech!), but have to say the hulled seeds are pretty good. i think hemp as a food is gaining traction because it's a) not soy. not that there's anything wrong with soy, but after a while people dream of there being a "second" protein source b) not gluten. while wheat products do provide a lot o' protein potential, people have this annoying habit of being intolerant of it, and c) not flax. on the efa front, it's pretty much been the non-stop flax show, so another choice is nice.

having said all that, my partner handed me a brazier-branded vega bar thingy yesterday. "here," she said "eat this. it tastes like compressed grass clippings and can only aspire to have the consistency of cardboard... but the stats are awesome."

and she was right. the stats are awesome. it tasted like a mouthful of dandelions and had the "chew" feeling of dried tub caulking. not bad.

Vegetarian, but a recent one (2 months). The cycling, running, and lifting + getting rid of all that crap I was eating helped me lose 40 lbs this summer. I dont eat eggs, but I still consume dairy. For me the diet has not been a problem, I take my vitamins, drink alot of fluids, and im good to go.