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FlatMaster
08-07-09, 06:06 PM
This stencil is poping up everywhere around Huntsville. It's always in the proper lane position for bikes. The thing I like about it is it's practically invisible to cagers, but peds can see it. Are these showing up anywhere else?


wahoonc
08-07-09, 07:00 PM
This stencil is poping up everywhere around Huntsville. It's always in the proper lane position for bikes. The thing I like about it is it's practically invisible to cagers, but peds can see it. Are these showing up anywhere else?

That is what is passing for a Sharrow (http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/dictionary/sharrow/)...maybe they are a bit short in the paint budget?:lol: They should look more like this monster!:thumb:

Aaron:)

http://30thcentury.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/stp823211.jpg?w=510&h=680

FlatMaster
08-07-09, 07:06 PM
I don't think it's anything official. Someone just goes out with a stencil at night and paints it.


unterhausen
08-07-09, 10:05 PM
That is what is passing for a Sharrow (http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/dictionary/sharrow/)...maybe they are a bit short in the paint budget?:lol: They should look more like this monster!:thumb:

Aaron:)
too bad they didn't center those sharrow signs so that a cyclist traveling down the center of them was out of the door zone.

cudak888
08-07-09, 10:52 PM
I've never seen that particular version of a sharrow symbol referenced in articles about traffic design standards. Neither have I seen - online or otherwise - such a thing in blue.

I smell vigilante VC lane - done by an absolute idiot (definitely so, if they thought blue would suffice).

-Kurt

JonnyHK
08-08-09, 03:56 AM
Could be a discrete route marker for some bike race or training course? Are you friendly with any of the local clubs and can ask?

wahoonc
08-08-09, 04:23 AM
too bad they didn't center those sharrow signs so that a cyclist traveling down the center of them was out of the door zone.

Actually if you are centered up on them you are out of the door zone. I ride this stretch of road at least once a week. These things are huge.

Aaron:)

Trek98
08-08-09, 04:28 AM
Yehuda Moon at work.

lightningcow
08-10-09, 12:09 AM
Someone around here put a cape on the symbol in the bike lane with "bicycle man," written below it. These both entertain and empower me. Unrelated, someone also painted snakes around the plane on the airport signs...I especially enjoy these.

Cyclaholic
08-10-09, 01:44 AM
This

Yehuda Moon at work.

and this

Someone around here put a cape on the symbol in the bike lane with "bicycle man," written below it. These both entertain and empower me. Unrelated, someone also painted snakes around the plane on the airport signs...I especially enjoy these.

made me smile like this -> :D

:thumb:

Rollfast
08-10-09, 02:57 AM
This stencil is poping up everywhere around Huntsville. It's always in the proper lane position for bikes. The thing I like about it is it's practically invisible to cagers, but peds can see it. Are these showing up anywhere else?

I hope not. It's a Wal-Mart bike.

Metzinger
08-10-09, 03:24 AM
I like it. But it looks like it's meant to be art.

Rollfast
08-10-09, 03:45 AM
I like it. But it looks like it's meant to be art.

It IS my favorite color of BLUE, though.

Bekologist
08-10-09, 08:24 AM
did you check huntsville for a bike master plan? they may be part of an improvement plan to facilitate lawful road bicycling in huntsville thru a variety of bicycling enhancements like sharrows and arterial bike lanes..

as far as i've read, blue is not approved for that type of road signing and may be either provisional or guerilla sharrows.

calamarichris
08-10-09, 01:16 PM
They must be official. We have some of them in Oceanside, on Pacific Street. (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=oceanside,+ca&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=52.947994,111.269531&ie=UTF8&ll=33.179188,-117.370685&spn=0.001726,0.003396&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=33.179327,-117.370801&panoid=HqYcmYfZvx-b6ffymyB7Gw&cbp=12,114.79,,0,17.65) It's kind of nice, because it's a major thoroughfare for cyclists riding to San Clemente or the San Luis Rey River Trail, but there is also a lot of beach-parking traffic there, which is prone to door opening.

cudak888
08-10-09, 06:01 PM
They must be official. We have some of them in Oceanside, on Pacific Street. (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=oceanside,+ca&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=52.947994,111.269531&ie=UTF8&ll=33.179188,-117.370685&spn=0.001726,0.003396&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=33.179327,-117.370801&panoid=HqYcmYfZvx-b6ffymyB7Gw&cbp=12,114.79,,0,17.65)

You don't seem to understand that those sharrow markings (which are identical to wahoonc's) are not one and the same with the OP.

How can you honestly say the stencils posted by the OP "must be official," if they have neither the color nor design of the approved signage?

-Kurt

FlatMaster
08-10-09, 06:18 PM
I should have put something for scale there too. Not more than 10'' accross.

calamarichris
08-11-09, 09:34 AM
You don't seem to understand that those sharrow markings (which are identical to wahoonc's) are not one and the same with the OP.

How can you honestly say the stencils posted by the OP "must be official," if they have neither the color nor design of the approved signage?
-Kurt

My mistake. I was referring to the stencils in Wahoonc's photo. The OP's blue stencils are clearly not official.

cudak888
08-11-09, 10:19 AM
My mistake. I was referring to the stencils in Wahoonc's photo. The OP's blue stencils are clearly not official.

Ok - I understand now.

-Kurt

hairyman
08-11-09, 12:39 PM
Actually if you are centered up on them you are out of the door zone. I ride this stretch of road at least once a week. These things are huge.

Aaron:)

Are you kidding?

The center of the "^" marking looks to be no more than 3 feet from the edge of the parking spot. That puts the right side of your handlebars about 2 feet from the edge of parked cars.

How many cars have doors that stick out less than 2 feet?

SlimAgainSoon
08-11-09, 02:20 PM
Officially cool, though.

Feldman
08-11-09, 02:33 PM
A "Dan Henry" for an organized ride?

noisebeam
08-11-09, 02:46 PM
Are you kidding?

The center of the "^" marking looks to be no more than 3 feet from the edge of the parking spot. That puts the right side of your handlebars about 2 feet from the edge of parked cars.

How many cars have doors that stick out less than 2 feet?

That was my thought too. Much too close to parked vehicles. It needs to be for the furthest opening door from a vehicle parked as far right as allowable in the marked parking spot.

A sharrow centered 5' from the left side of the marked parking spot would be about right.

Also if there was a vehicle parked in that handicapped spot before the intersecting driveway/side street I would want to be riding in the left tire track of the lane for maximum visibilty for any vehicle potentially pulling out that would be blocked by the handicapped vehicles(which can often be vans)

CliftonGK1
08-11-09, 03:02 PM
A "Dan Henry" for an organized ride?

Maybe, but not likely. DH marks typically have an arrow designating your next turn; unless they're using the high-school cross-country designations of
yellow = left turn
red = right turn
blue = straight

FlatMaster
08-11-09, 05:23 PM
Maybe, but not likely. DH marks typically have an arrow designating your next turn; unless they're using the high-school cross-country designations of
yellow = left turn
red = right turn
blue = straight

These aren't posted where turns would be for a route, but strangely, I did see a yellow one today near the LBS. I don't remember exactly where it was, but that would agree with blue stencils being in a place that doesn't necessarily indicate a turn. The mystery deepens.

FlatMaster
08-11-09, 05:25 PM
Now that I think of it, there is a tuesday night fixie ride around here that includes most of the stencils I've seen.