Classic & Vintage - Did anyone hear about this?? The Turbo is back?

And at a GREAT price? Does anyone know if the covering is leather like it used to be?,,,,BD


http://store.comcycle-usa.com/ProductInfo.aspx?id=5723053

So is the Concor Supercorsa! These "Retro" re-releases are great for most of us doing restorations, but bad for the eBay NOS parts speculators.
I got a new Concor Supercorsa myself for my 84 Peugeot PSV. to replace the white perforated Turbo I had on the bike, Differences I noticed are, the black leather suede seat covering seems to be softer, plusher feeling, and the padding seem to be a little softer. The stamped logo on the side of the saddle only appears on the drive side while the other side is blank. Don't remember if my Supercorsa in the 80's had it on both sides. The shell seems to be less stiff than the original too, but all in all it looks and feels great!
It cost me around 85 bucks shipped from the UK. Haven't seen it here locally in the US....yet(?).

Chombi
84 Peugeot PSV

Yeah, but where's yellow or orange? Yellow is still going for $150 NOS.

And at a GREAT price? Does anyone know if the covering is leather like it used to be?,,,,BD


http://store.comcycle-usa.com/ProductInfo.aspx?id=5723053


If'n anyone wants a real Turbo in black - let me know.

Even have one in blue that says Bianchi on it.

I got one. I will keep you all updated on the quality.

Jake

If you are in the Boston area, Open Bicycle in Somerville just announced having gotten these in stock.

Am I missing something....

I dont see it listed on that link. Even did a search for it on the site and nothing ?

Same here, nothing listed.

I copied this from some blog:

Selle Italia Turbo Re-Issue Review

http://prollyisnotprobably.com/3815078385_bfc933d8fe_o-thumb.jpg (http://prollyisnotprobably.com/3815078385_bfc933d8fe_o.php)
If you've been reading my blog for any amount of time, you probably know that the Selle Italia (http://www.selleitalia.com/eng/index.html) Turbo is my favorite saddle. I've been through a ton and got tired of destroying vintage classics. Since that realization, I've been riding different knock-offs that never quite meet the same standard. Just recently, Selle Italia re-issued the Turbo. I am stoked.
http://prollyisnotprobably.com/IMG_5153-thumb.jpg (http://prollyisnotprobably.com/IMG_5153.php)
After receiving mine in the mail, I'm equally as excited. Finally. The re-issue is nearly identical to the older model. I can't find any noticeable differences int he silhouette. The only major difference is that the new Turbo is Vegan-friendly. Which may or may not be your thing...
http://prollyisnotprobably.com/IMG_5156-thumb.jpg (http://prollyisnotprobably.com/IMG_5156.php)
Unlike the re-issue of the Concor (http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2009/02/reissue_dont_****.php), the re-issued Turbo has impeccable craft. The ride is the same and the general feel of the saddle is identical. I cannot wait to ride this baby all weekend.

Retail should be around $60 - $70

If you guys are interested in the turbo you can find them for $50 on various sites.

EDIT:

^ Frpax thanks for the review! If my current saddle doesn't work out I'll buy a white Turbo.

EDIT:

^ Frpax thanks for the review! If my current saddle doesn't work out I'll buy a white Turbo.
I just copied and pasted, bro! :thumb:

^ Haha I guess I missed the first part of the post. Appreciated either way.

vegan friendly = not leather

Found it for $43-$50 so far. Also found a couple NOS for $150.
I think I traded one to someone for some calipers not long ago.

I think it's a decent saddle and I'd put one on an Ironman restoration in a minute.

What it's really going to kill is the market for white ones....

Is leather covering on a plastic based saddle that important?

Up until the beginning of this year, I sold cars for 17 years. Almost all leather upholstered cars only have leather on the seating surface, with vinyl on the sides and backs. I am hard pressed to tell the difference. Vinyl is really well made, these days.

^ Haha I guess I missed the first part of the post. Appreciated either way.
:thumb: I just try to do my little part in this vast forum.

Yea, although I would prefer real leather (just looks better aged to me) I really don't mind this synthetic leather. The lowest price I've seen so far is $50 shipped on ebay.

I really hope they release more colors because a red one NOS is still $150-200...

I copied this from some blog:

Selle Italia Turbo Re-Issue Review

http://prollyisnotprobably.com/3815078385_bfc933d8fe_o-thumb.jpg (http://prollyisnotprobably.com/3815078385_bfc933d8fe_o.php)
If you've been reading my blog for any amount of time, you probably know that the Selle Italia (http://www.selleitalia.com/eng/index.html) Turbo is my favorite saddle. I've been through a ton and got tired of destroying vintage classics. Since that realization, I've been riding different knock-offs that never quite meet the same standard. Just recently, Selle Italia re-issued the Turbo. I am stoked.
http://prollyisnotprobably.com/IMG_5153-thumb.jpg (http://prollyisnotprobably.com/IMG_5153.php)
After receiving mine in the mail, I'm equally as excited. Finally. The re-issue is nearly identical to the older model. I can't find any noticeable differences int he silhouette. The only major difference is that the new Turbo is Vegan-friendly. Which may or may not be your thing...
http://prollyisnotprobably.com/IMG_5156-thumb.jpg (http://prollyisnotprobably.com/IMG_5156.php)
Unlike the re-issue of the Concor (http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2009/02/reissue_dont_****.php), the re-issued Turbo has impeccable craft. The ride is the same and the general feel of the saddle is identical. I cannot wait to ride this baby all weekend.

Retail should be around $60 - $70

I suspect that they used the sythetic leather called "Lorica" as first used on motorcycle boots. The material is supposed to have stregnth close to leather and also "breath" like the real thing.. I have a few pairs motorcycle boots made from the stuff and it does perform very well and generally feels like leather, except as we can see in your pics, the texture is perfect unlike real leather, that might give away for some that it's man made material. This re-issued Turbo looks to be very good for us classic bike fans to use.

Regarding the re-issued Concor Supercorsa. I bought one of those to replace the white perforated leather Turbo I had on my PSV about a month ago (I did not want to beat up the old classic saddle) and I do not see any quality issues with it. I did read out there that the early delivered units might have rough cut leather edges under the saddle, but I checked mine and it looks well trimmed. The only difference I did notice on the saddle is the (real) leather suede cover seems to be softer and the suede texture "deeper/plusher" that matched the old Turbo suede texture more than the almost velvety, tight grain of the old Concor Supercorsa leather saddle cover. The re-issued saddle seem to also be softer than what I remembered my Concor Supercorsa was back in the 80's. I think they used a softer/slightly thicker foam padding and softer saddle shell this time. I've ridden it some miles already and I think it's actually more comfortable than the Turbo I took off from the bike. I think the more advance materials used in the shell and padding is the cause of this rise in comfort. I would suspect that this new Turbo also benefits from the same technolgy and will even be more comfortable.....Now, do they plan to make this new Turbo in perforated white too?? If they do, I'll be fiirst in line to buy one!

Chombi
84 Peugeot PSV

Vegan friendly, huh?

I wonder if they taste as good as the original...

Most synthetics do not breathe as well as leather... I hate the Turbo (or my ass does) but the Buffalo hide cover was very cool.

I can see this being a very successful re-release as for most people this is a great saddle.

Most synthetics do not breathe as well as leather... I hate the Turbo (or my ass does) but the Buffalo hide cover was very cool.

I can see this being a very successful re-release as for most people this is a great saddle.

Yes, but "Lorica" was specifically designed to breath very well because it's used on many waterproof/cold weather motorcycle boots that needs to breath well for warmth and prevent moisture buildup from perspiration that can subsequently lead to freezing feet. Lorica is also now used on many European cars for seat uphoulstery. My borther's Audi A4 has it and it actully look very good in such cars because it looks perfect without looking plasticky like vinyl uphoulstery does. The car manufacturers call it "leatherette". It feels just like leather without the cold, clammy and sticky in hot weather feel that vinyl material has.
BTW, I'm not sure that the suede version of the Turbo actually had buffalo hide coverings. I do remember the box and tags on the saddles saying that back then, but I think it's really the style of the embossed pattern on the suede that they put on it that gave it the name "buffalo". Otherwise, I think it's plain cow or calf skin short pile, suede leather. Otherwise, I think it would have cost much more.

Chombi
84 Peugeot PSV

I just copied and pasted, bro! :thumb:

http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2009/08/selle_italia_turbo_reissue_rev.php

;)

http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2009/08/selle_italia_turbo_reissue_rev.php

;)
I just realized it was you...any pics of the Eddie?

What era does this saddle date from? Mid 80s?

I am looking for a good, period-correct saddle for the 88 Schwinn Circuit that should be at my doorstop tomorrow...

88's a little late for the basic Turbo saddle. i would look for the later "Turbomatic" model for your bike or the also later released lycra covered "gel" versions of the Turbo. A Concor "Rolls" saddle might be also period correct for an 88 and younger bike, but I think that the Rolls was more of a boutique bike saddle for those who collect bikes more than they ride them...........not that there's anything wrong with that! ;^))

Chombi
84 Peugeot PSV

Call me when they reissue the classic Flite Ti.

I saw this happen in the vintage or antique motorcycle world. After market copies. Though I am sure the saddles are just fine, just exactly what does a plastic covered Turbo saddle have to do with vintage road bicycles? In my humble opinion, nothing what so ever. The appearance and installation of products like this remade Turbo lessens the value of a vintage bicycle, in my opinion. In a few years, if this keeps up and it will, you will not have any idea about what you are buying. Fake hoods, fake rims, fake what ever including bicycles such as the newly re-manufactured Schwinn Paramount.

For my money, I prefer real vintage and I do not mind the hassle or fun of going out and finding what I need/want. Of course, why worry about it if all it takes to get a cool old road bike is money. Good grief. Perhaps this forum's name should be changed. This new Turbo is neither vintage nor classic but I am sure that it will satisfy the person who wants to look cool without the effort of actually being cool.

And now for the ride or feel. I have always thought that a plastic cover saddle reflects heat back to my butt rather that wick it away the way my leather ones do. And why didn't the company use leather the way they used to? Because it cost more. This suggests that the quality of the product is reduced and so will be the quality of any bicycle built using one or more of these after market copies or near copies, in the Turbo's case.

All that said, watch the price of genuine vintage Turbo saddles sky-rocket. Get em while you can afford them and then go for the fake stuff.

Call me when they reissue the classic Flite Ti.

If I'm not mistaken, they have.
Yep, they have.
http://aebike.com/page.cfm?action=details&PageID=30&SKU=SA5296
I remember recently seeing it as OEM on a new bike, a Kona road bike I do believe.
-Gene-

I saw this happen in the vintage or antique motorcycle world. After market copies. Though I am sure the saddles are just fine, just exactly what does a plastic covered Turbo saddle have to do with vintage road bicycles? In my humble opinion, nothing what so ever. The appearance and installation of products like this remade Turbo lessens the value of a vintage bicycle, in my opinion. In a few years, if this keeps up and it will, you will not have any idea about what you are buying. Fake hoods, fake rims, fake what ever including bicycles such as the newly re-manufactured Schwinn Paramount.

For my money, I prefer real vintage and I do not mind the hassle or fun of going out and finding what I need/want. Of course, why worry about it if all it takes to get a cool old road bike is money. Good grief. Perhaps this forum's name should be changed. This new Turbo is neither vintage nor classic but I am sure that it will satisfy the person who wants to look cool without the effort of actually being cool.

And now for the ride or feel. I have always thought that a plastic cover saddle reflects heat back to my butt rather that wick it away the way my leather ones do. And why didn't the company use leather the way they used to? Because it cost more. This suggests that the quality of the product is reduced and so will be the quality of any bicycle built using one or more of these after market copies or near copies, in the Turbo's case.

All that said, watch the price of genuine vintage Turbo saddles sky-rocket. Get em while you can afford them and then go for the fake stuff.

Maybe the good thing about the re-issue is, the old stuff gets saved from everyday riding that would kill them all off eventually. With the repro, you'll get the looks you are looking for and also be able to save the old real stuff for prosperity. I got myself a re-issued Concor Supercorsa specifically for this reason. I took off and am saving my classic perforated white leather Turbo saddle and using the re-issued Concor for my everyday riding. So I think it doesn't "lessent the value" of classic bikes, and these re-issued saddles are a good thing.
Per my last posts, I explained that these new synthetic leathers like "Lorica" are materials specifically designed to be as curable and breath like leather. As for the plastic base, I'm sure you'll agree that the same was used on the original Turbos.

Chombi
84 Peugeot PSV - with re-issued Concor Supercorsa Saddle

My butt seems to like the turbos and my eyes like the reproduction. That is a win win right?

If something is made new that can't be distinguished from the original, I am all for it! For those who want absolute authenticity would an item like this Turbo saddle not have some distinguishing features, date codes & the like, setting it apart from the original?

its not real leather... but I dont really care.

I've still got one of the originals.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c190/sunburststrat/bikes/peugotfixie02.jpg

No thanks on the "vegan friendly".

Call me when they reissue the Turbomatic.

Sunburst, if memory serves me correctly, that's actually a Super Turbo.

http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2009/08/selle_italia_turbo_reissue_rev.php

;)
Heh! Props go to YOU, sir!

Even towards the end of the original Turbo's production, they were making some with synthetic coverings.

Got mine in today. I ordered it off of comcycles ebay store. Seems nice enough to me, the cover is synthetic.

Jake

I've still got one of the originals.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c190/sunburststrat/bikes/peugotfixie02.jpg

I've got one of those in black. The only thing that bothers me about the vinyl, is getting on it after the bike is locked up under the sun for an hour or so.;),,,,BD

I've got one of those in black. The only thing that bothers me about the vinyl, is getting on it after the bike is locked up under the sun for an hour or so.;),,,,BD

As i noted, the new material used on these new Turbos is most likely "Lorica". I haven't seen the new Turbo in person, but I really suspect that they used Lorica on it. Totally very un-vinyl in feel and looks. Just go and sit on the newest Audis with the leatherette seats or check out the newest 400 dollar motorcycle road racing boots and maybe even the of the line bicycling shoes and you will have an idea how nice the material really is. If there's anything "bad" about it, it would be it's perfect leather grain texture that could give it away as synthetic, but personally, I could live with that.

Chombi
84 Peugeot PSV

I saw this happen in the vintage or antique motorcycle world. After market copies. Though I am sure the saddles are just fine, just exactly what does a plastic covered Turbo saddle have to do with vintage road bicycles? In my humble opinion, nothing what so ever. The appearance and installation of products like this remade Turbo lessens the value of a vintage bicycle, in my opinion. In a few years, if this keeps up and it will, you will not have any idea about what you are buying. Fake hoods, fake rims, fake what ever including bicycles such as the newly re-manufactured Schwinn Paramount.

For my money, I prefer real vintage and I do not mind the hassle or fun of going out and finding what I need/want. Of course, why worry about it if all it takes to get a cool old road bike is money. Good grief. Perhaps this forum's name should be changed. This new Turbo is neither vintage nor classic but I am sure that it will satisfy the person who wants to look cool without the effort of actually being cool.

And now for the ride or feel. I have always thought that a plastic cover saddle reflects heat back to my butt rather that wick it away the way my leather ones do. And why didn't the company use leather the way they used to? Because it cost more. This suggests that the quality of the product is reduced and so will be the quality of any bicycle built using one or more of these after market copies or near copies, in the Turbo's case.

All that said, watch the price of genuine vintage Turbo saddles sky-rocket. Get em while you can afford them and then go for the fake stuff.

If you're saying the Turbo isn't a classic, you're sorely mistaken. I'm pretty stoked I can finally pick up a few more without dealing with extortion on ebay.

Most synthetics do not breathe as well as leather... I hate the Turbo (or my ass does) but the Buffalo hide cover was very cool.

I agree that the Turbos were among the most uncomfortable saddles ever made. The only spare saddles I have left are 2 Turbos, which I doubt I'll ever use again. My favorite classic saddle is a Selle San Marco Rolls.

I saw this happen in the vintage or antique motorcycle world. After market copies. Though I am sure the saddles are just fine, just exactly what does a plastic covered Turbo saddle have to do with vintage road bicycles? In my humble opinion, nothing what so ever. The appearance and installation of products like this remade Turbo lessens the value of a vintage bicycle, in my opinion. In a few years, if this keeps up and it will, you will not have any idea about what you are buying. Fake hoods, fake rims, fake what ever including bicycles such as the newly re-manufactured Schwinn Paramount.

For my money, I prefer real vintage and I do not mind the hassle or fun of going out and finding what I need/want. Of course, why worry about it if all it takes to get a cool old road bike is money. Good grief. Perhaps this forum's name should be changed. This new Turbo is neither vintage nor classic but I am sure that it will satisfy the person who wants to look cool without the effort of actually being cool.

And now for the ride or feel. I have always thought that a plastic cover saddle reflects heat back to my butt rather that wick it away the way my leather ones do. And why didn't the company use leather the way they used to? Because it cost more. This suggests that the quality of the product is reduced and so will be the quality of any bicycle built using one or more of these after market copies or near copies, in the Turbo's case.

All that said, watch the price of genuine vintage Turbo saddles sky-rocket. Get em while you can afford them and then go for the fake stuff.

Sidi now makes their shoes out of a synthetic leather, and some of those are $500 a pair, I doubt they're cutting corners on materials (same with most of the other big cycling shoe manufacturers, as well as lots of the high end saddle manufacturers, fizik, selle san marco, specialized, etc.)

Anyway, the way I see it, saddles have a finite lifespan, like tires. You may get a good number of years out of them, but if you actually ride them, they'll eventually need to be replaced. The supply of NOS saddles is going to dry up eventually, and when that happens I know I'll be glad that they reissued the Turbo and the Concor.

Sunburst, if memory serves me correctly, that's actually a Super Turbo.

Yes, I was thinking the same thing when I posted it. It was a surprise that two of the three saddle color stripes of the "super" matched the Peugeot stripes. The 3rd color sorta matched the Trek this saddle was originally on.

I want one! Is the link in the OP the best price y'all have seen so far? Thanks.