Classic & Vintage - Pr-10

Any thoughts on the worth of a 70's PR-10 with clinchers in good condition? I know they're nice bikes, just beneath the PX-10 in Peugeot's competition hierarchy, 531 in the main tubes, etc etc etc. How much would you all pay? I don't want to overspend on a bike that clearly doesn't have the collectors value of a PX.

I paid $150 several years ago for a 15-year-old PKN-10 with clinchers. Make sure you are getting a sound frame, preferably with the original Stronglight crankset, Normandy Luxe Competition hubset, and Mafac brakeset.

The '70s PRr10s came with Normandy "Sport" hubs.

I picked up a mid seventies PR10 a year or two ago and was pretty happy when I did. Sadly, the bike at 60cm was too big for me. And even more sadly, the workmanship was atrocious! The picture of the seat tube lug best describes the factory issued condition of this bicycle. The cosmetics were still very good and the components suggested little use. However, the person who built the frame set should be shot and pi**ed on.

Look at the horrible presentation of the seat tube lug. The ragged edge is actually very sharp, presenting not only a hazard, but also an ugly spot. The gap at the front of the lug is unsightly, to say the least. And more effort should have been invested cleaning up the rough lug surface. Sadly, this poor workmanship was even worse in the inside of the bottom bracket. One of the tubes protruded 1/4" into the bottom bracket. It looked as though the tubes had been hammered to achieve spindle clearance before or perhaps even after brazing.

It disappoints me to see supposedly high end bicycles so poorly built. And though this Peugeot PR10 is perhaps the worst presented high end road bicycle I have seen, I do frequently see examples of sloppy workmanship on many other supposedly high end road bikes from the sixties, seventies and even into the eighties. My opinion, of course.

The craftsmanship on my 1980 PKN-10 was even worse, including big ugly seams down the backs of the fork blades, brazing voids around the rear dropouts, and misaligned PEUGEOT downtube decals, but it rode beautifully. I gave it to my elder son, who is 3" taller than I am.

I think it depends on many different variables. a cheap one but with everything there should be $150 but an all orignial in good condition may be almost at PX range ($300+)

I think it depends on many different variables. a cheap one but with everything there should be $150 but an all orignial in good condition may be almost at PX range ($300+)



PDXaero has it right. Here's some pics of my 1974 PR10, all original, purchased for $280 three years ago.



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PDXaero has it right. Here's some pics of my 1974 PR10, all original, purchased for $280 three years ago.



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Greetings,
On the other end of the scale, I purchased this 1972 PR10 rust-bucket for $100. I already had some correct replacement parts (e.g., NOS Ideale 80 saddle) and the frame paint and decals are actually in very good shape. I am sure that many here would argue that it's worth no more than $50, but when the refurbishment is complete, I believe it will be a nice looking ride. The PX10 in very good shape is selling for about $400 to $500 these days on EBay..., so the PR10 prices quoted seem reasonable to me. Good luck.
Cheers,

Tom,

Nice to see you back on the forum!

I picked up a mid seventies PR10 a year or two ago and was pretty happy when I did. Sadly, the bike at 60cm was too big for me. And even more sadly, the workmanship was atrocious!

I am perplexed why they even bothered to put any effort into mitering the tube, if they intended to slide it in like that.

-Kurt

Does anybody know the brand of those top tube pump clips? Mine are missing and I want to cover the marks they left.

Also, i'll throw in that i just picked up a 72 PR-10 for just over $100 with great paint and decals but a ben in the rear triangle. And a death stem. Still felt great, need to reset the frame and then I'll post it in the before and after thread.

In Belgium we'll speak of a job 'à la française' (the french way) about anything done in a sloppy way (without much attention to detail); this can certainly be said about lots of french vintage bikes (not only Peugeot, btw), but at the same time it's part of their charm, isn't it? While there's lots of impeccably finished bikes out there that ride like a tank, almost all Peugeots, Motobecanes (above 'french' average, btw), Gitanes, Merciers and what have you - even most low-end models - offer a great ride, and at the end of the day, that's what it's all about, surely!