OSCARSEVILLA
08-24-09, 04:52 PM
Hello, I´m new at this forum. I wish to travel along of the USA with my bike. What state do you recomend me to start with?, what is the best one for the cycling?
Thank you
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08-24-09, 05:43 PM
Welcome. We can always use another bicyclist here.
hmmm..... I haven't experienced all of the states, of course. But I've looked over a number of them and I can make decent guesses about the others. Even then, I'd have a hard time recommending any particular place. I'd say that you could just about choose a region at random and have a pretty good time.
But maybe you could work with the conditions that you can or cannot tolerate. For instance, if you would have a hard time living with hot and humid conditions, then you would not want to visit practically anywhere east of the Rocky Mountains in summer. The south-west would be warm as well, but less muggy.
If you crave mountainous conditions, then perhaps Montana or western N. Dakota would be good. It might still be warm in the day, but it would cool down morning and evening. But I'd stay away from about October to May.
If I were to choose a season and place, then maybe I'd go with Ohio east of a line, roughly, from Cleveland to Columbus and south, sometime around late September through early November (but no later than that). You would find there, mostly, trim and pretty countryside, mostly pretty good roads and nice weather. The further east you go, the more mountainous it will become. If you crave long climbs, then that's nice. But the roads will get worse.
Most of Michigan will be similar. (Many of us consider it to be the most beautiful state) Southern Michigan, in particular, is excellent bicycling country. It rolls enough to be entertaining without working you to death. The difficulty will be with the roads, though. You'll find some roads that are just made for biking; good paved shoulders for instance. But many roads will be narrow with very fast motorists and blind dips and rises. Still, it's a good bicycle state on average.
If I thought about it, I could go on with other recommendations. But maybe that would take up too much space. You could choose almost anywhere east of the Mississippi River in autumn and do just fine, on average. Stay away from the mountainous areas, unless you want that sort of thing. September through early November is a good time in the North.. South of the Ohio River you might want to make it October through November and, perhaps, into early December.
hmmm..... I haven't experienced all of the states, of course. But I've looked over a number of them and I can make decent guesses about the others. Even then, I'd have a hard time recommending any particular place. I'd say that you could just about choose a region at random and have a pretty good time.
But maybe you could work with the conditions that you can or cannot tolerate. For instance, if you would have a hard time living with hot and humid conditions, then you would not want to visit practically anywhere east of the Rocky Mountains in summer. The south-west would be warm as well, but less muggy.
If you crave mountainous conditions, then perhaps Montana or western N. Dakota would be good. It might still be warm in the day, but it would cool down morning and evening. But I'd stay away from about October to May.
If I were to choose a season and place, then maybe I'd go with Ohio east of a line, roughly, from Cleveland to Columbus and south, sometime around late September through early November (but no later than that). You would find there, mostly, trim and pretty countryside, mostly pretty good roads and nice weather. The further east you go, the more mountainous it will become. If you crave long climbs, then that's nice. But the roads will get worse.
Most of Michigan will be similar. (Many of us consider it to be the most beautiful state) Southern Michigan, in particular, is excellent bicycling country. It rolls enough to be entertaining without working you to death. The difficulty will be with the roads, though. You'll find some roads that are just made for biking; good paved shoulders for instance. But many roads will be narrow with very fast motorists and blind dips and rises. Still, it's a good bicycle state on average.
If I thought about it, I could go on with other recommendations. But maybe that would take up too much space. You could choose almost anywhere east of the Mississippi River in autumn and do just fine, on average. Stay away from the mountainous areas, unless you want that sort of thing. September through early November is a good time in the North.. South of the Ohio River you might want to make it October through November and, perhaps, into early December.
John Nelson
08-24-09, 05:44 PM
What dates do you wish to travel? It makes a difference as to where you would want to be. How long do you intend to tour? Do you prefer a loop course or a point-to-point course? Are you going to camp or stay in motels? Will you have a support vehicle or not?
Does "along of the USA" mean a coast-to-coast route (Atlantic to Pacific or Pacific to Atlantic)? The Adventure Cycling Association produces many fine bicycle touring maps. You could very enjoyably follow any of them. They also conduct guided rides of many of these routes if you would prefer.
http://adventurecycling.org/routes/index.cfm
The USA is a very big place and there are many, many options. Give us some further idea of your preferences and we might be able to narrow it down a bit.
Does "along of the USA" mean a coast-to-coast route (Atlantic to Pacific or Pacific to Atlantic)? The Adventure Cycling Association produces many fine bicycle touring maps. You could very enjoyably follow any of them. They also conduct guided rides of many of these routes if you would prefer.
http://adventurecycling.org/routes/index.cfm
The USA is a very big place and there are many, many options. Give us some further idea of your preferences and we might be able to narrow it down a bit.
Cyclebum
08-24-09, 09:44 PM
If this is to be your first time to cycle tour in the U.S., I'd highly recommend one of the routes covered by the ACA maps mentioned by John Nelson. They are specifically tailored to accommodate the needs of a cycle tourer.
As for where to tour, that's totally dependent on your interest. Interesting stuff to see and do everywhere in the US, but what you'll likely remember most are the people you'll meet.
As to when, all the southern states can be ridden in reasonable comfort in the winter. Western mountainous and northern states, summer. Middle states, late spring and early fall are best. You can consult a number of weather sites in the US for temp and rainfall ranges by the month. I use the weather site at www.MSN.com.
With more information about your plans and interest, it'd be easier to offer you more specific advice. Do a lot of research to ensure you get the best experience for your time, money, and effort. Journals about travels in all parts of the US and world can be found at www.crazyguyonabike.com.
As for where to tour, that's totally dependent on your interest. Interesting stuff to see and do everywhere in the US, but what you'll likely remember most are the people you'll meet.
As to when, all the southern states can be ridden in reasonable comfort in the winter. Western mountainous and northern states, summer. Middle states, late spring and early fall are best. You can consult a number of weather sites in the US for temp and rainfall ranges by the month. I use the weather site at www.MSN.com.
With more information about your plans and interest, it'd be easier to offer you more specific advice. Do a lot of research to ensure you get the best experience for your time, money, and effort. Journals about travels in all parts of the US and world can be found at www.crazyguyonabike.com.
OSCARSEVILLA
08-25-09, 03:37 AM
Welcome. We can always use another bicyclist here.
hmmm..... I haven't experienced all of the states, of course. But I've looked over a number of them and I can make decent guesses about the others. Even then, I'd have a hard time recommending any particular place. I'd say that you could just about choose a region at random and have a pretty good time.
But maybe you could work with the conditions that you can or cannot tolerate. For instance, if you would have a hard time living with hot and humid conditions, then you would not want to visit practically anywhere east of the Rocky Mountains in summer. The south-west would be warm as well, but less muggy.
If you crave mountainous conditions, then perhaps Montana or western N. Dakota would be good. It might still be warm in the day, but it would cool down morning and evening. But I'd stay away from about October to May.
If I were to choose a season and place, then maybe I'd go with Ohio east of a line, roughly, from Cleveland to Columbus and south, sometime around late September through early November (but no later than that). You would find there, mostly, trim and pretty countryside, mostly pretty good roads and nice weather. The further east you go, the more mountainous it will become. If you crave long climbs, then that's nice. But the roads will get worse.
Most of Michigan will be similar. (Many of us consider it to be the most beautiful state) Southern Michigan, in particular, is excellent bicycling country. It rolls enough to be entertaining without working you to death. The difficulty will be with the roads, though. You'll find some roads that are just made for biking; good paved shoulders for instance. But many roads will be narrow with very fast motorists and blind dips and rises. Still, it's a good bicycle state on average.
If I thought about it, I could go on with other recommendations. But maybe that would take up too much space. You could choose almost anywhere east of the Mississippi River in autumn and do just fine, on average. Stay away from the mountainous areas, unless you want that sort of thing. September through early November is a good time in the North.. South of the Ohio River you might want to make it October through November and, perhaps, into early December.
Thank you very much, excellent response. The weather conditions do not matter. I want to visit the most beautiful, then, I choose to michigan?
hmmm..... I haven't experienced all of the states, of course. But I've looked over a number of them and I can make decent guesses about the others. Even then, I'd have a hard time recommending any particular place. I'd say that you could just about choose a region at random and have a pretty good time.
But maybe you could work with the conditions that you can or cannot tolerate. For instance, if you would have a hard time living with hot and humid conditions, then you would not want to visit practically anywhere east of the Rocky Mountains in summer. The south-west would be warm as well, but less muggy.
If you crave mountainous conditions, then perhaps Montana or western N. Dakota would be good. It might still be warm in the day, but it would cool down morning and evening. But I'd stay away from about October to May.
If I were to choose a season and place, then maybe I'd go with Ohio east of a line, roughly, from Cleveland to Columbus and south, sometime around late September through early November (but no later than that). You would find there, mostly, trim and pretty countryside, mostly pretty good roads and nice weather. The further east you go, the more mountainous it will become. If you crave long climbs, then that's nice. But the roads will get worse.
Most of Michigan will be similar. (Many of us consider it to be the most beautiful state) Southern Michigan, in particular, is excellent bicycling country. It rolls enough to be entertaining without working you to death. The difficulty will be with the roads, though. You'll find some roads that are just made for biking; good paved shoulders for instance. But many roads will be narrow with very fast motorists and blind dips and rises. Still, it's a good bicycle state on average.
If I thought about it, I could go on with other recommendations. But maybe that would take up too much space. You could choose almost anywhere east of the Mississippi River in autumn and do just fine, on average. Stay away from the mountainous areas, unless you want that sort of thing. September through early November is a good time in the North.. South of the Ohio River you might want to make it October through November and, perhaps, into early December.
Thank you very much, excellent response. The weather conditions do not matter. I want to visit the most beautiful, then, I choose to michigan?
OSCARSEVILLA
08-25-09, 03:40 AM
What dates do you wish to travel? It makes a difference as to where you would want to be. How long do you intend to tour? Do you prefer a loop course or a point-to-point course? Are you going to camp or stay in motels? Will you have a support vehicle or not?
Does "along of the USA" mean a coast-to-coast route (Atlantic to Pacific or Pacific to Atlantic)? The Adventure Cycling Association produces many fine bicycle touring maps. You could very enjoyably follow any of them. They also conduct guided rides of many of these routes if you would prefer.
http://adventurecycling.org/routes/index.cfm
The USA is a very big place and there are many, many options. Give us some further idea of your preferences and we might be able to narrow it down a bit.
I intend to spend a few months traveling. I want to sleep in camps. How is the route from coast to coast?
Thank you very much for your answer
Does "along of the USA" mean a coast-to-coast route (Atlantic to Pacific or Pacific to Atlantic)? The Adventure Cycling Association produces many fine bicycle touring maps. You could very enjoyably follow any of them. They also conduct guided rides of many of these routes if you would prefer.
http://adventurecycling.org/routes/index.cfm
The USA is a very big place and there are many, many options. Give us some further idea of your preferences and we might be able to narrow it down a bit.
I intend to spend a few months traveling. I want to sleep in camps. How is the route from coast to coast?
Thank you very much for your answer
staehpj1
08-25-09, 05:04 AM
A lot depends on your preferences. I like Oregon (especially the western part), Colorado (again the western part), Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, and New Mexico (the northeastern part) the best of the states I have ridden so far. Some of the states in the East are nice too, but I am a bit jaded with regards to them since I have lived there my whole life. Many other states are beautiful in their own particular way.
I advise looking at the various Adventure Cycling routes. The coast to coast routes would give you a good sampling of the whole country. The Trans America is a great route, and while I have not done it the Northern Tier sounds great too. If you want to go early or late in the season, you might want to do the Southern Tier, although I think it may be less ideal as a way of sampling the whole country.
The Pacific Coast is another good option, but while extremely beautiful it is less diverse. A good option might be a loop including the Pacific Coast and the not yet released Sierra Cascades Bicycle Route (I think it is supposed to be ready for the 2010 season). This loop is high of my wish list!
I advise looking at the various Adventure Cycling routes. The coast to coast routes would give you a good sampling of the whole country. The Trans America is a great route, and while I have not done it the Northern Tier sounds great too. If you want to go early or late in the season, you might want to do the Southern Tier, although I think it may be less ideal as a way of sampling the whole country.
The Pacific Coast is another good option, but while extremely beautiful it is less diverse. A good option might be a loop including the Pacific Coast and the not yet released Sierra Cascades Bicycle Route (I think it is supposed to be ready for the 2010 season). This loop is high of my wish list!
bluegoatwoods
08-25-09, 06:32 AM
Michigan would be a good choice, no doubt about that. But there are plenty of others, too.
Michigan is fine if you like a north-temperate, rural scene. But understand that you won't find anything like New York or Los Angeles there. You'll want to stay out of Michigan's cities. They are dying a rotten death right now. No fun to be had there.
(to the Michiganders; forgive me. I'm not bashing. I'm a native who loves MI. And I might well choose it as the most beautiful state. But for a foreign visitor I simply can't recommend Detroit over NY, LA, Chicago, etc.)
Michigan is fine if you like a north-temperate, rural scene. But understand that you won't find anything like New York or Los Angeles there. You'll want to stay out of Michigan's cities. They are dying a rotten death right now. No fun to be had there.
(to the Michiganders; forgive me. I'm not bashing. I'm a native who loves MI. And I might well choose it as the most beautiful state. But for a foreign visitor I simply can't recommend Detroit over NY, LA, Chicago, etc.)
staehpj1
08-25-09, 06:49 AM
Michigan would be a good choice, no doubt about that. But there are plenty of others, too.
Michigan is fine if you like a north-temperate, rural scene. But understand that you won't find anything like New York or Los Angeles there. You'll want to stay out of Michigan's cities. They are dying a rotten death right now. No fun to be had there.
(to the Michiganders; forgive me. I'm not bashing. I'm a native who loves MI. And I might well choose it as the most beautiful state. But for a foreign visitor I simply can't recommend Detroit over NY, LA, Chicago, etc.)
I tend to not consider the cities in a state when planning a tour since I mostly avoid larger cities. I perhaps wrongly tend to assume that others do similarly.
Michigan is fine if you like a north-temperate, rural scene. But understand that you won't find anything like New York or Los Angeles there. You'll want to stay out of Michigan's cities. They are dying a rotten death right now. No fun to be had there.
(to the Michiganders; forgive me. I'm not bashing. I'm a native who loves MI. And I might well choose it as the most beautiful state. But for a foreign visitor I simply can't recommend Detroit over NY, LA, Chicago, etc.)
I tend to not consider the cities in a state when planning a tour since I mostly avoid larger cities. I perhaps wrongly tend to assume that others do similarly.
positron
08-25-09, 09:02 AM
Hola Oscar, Bienvenidos!
Arizona is full of natural beauty- canyons and mountains. Can be very lonely though- the population is not very large- great for camping and feeling alone though. Its good for fall, some winter, and spring cycling. too hot in summer most places.
Generally, I prefer the western states, and the rocky mountains. Montana, Colorado, Idaho, Washington, Oregon.... Northern california, as I think these are the most dramatic...
Arizona is full of natural beauty- canyons and mountains. Can be very lonely though- the population is not very large- great for camping and feeling alone though. Its good for fall, some winter, and spring cycling. too hot in summer most places.
Generally, I prefer the western states, and the rocky mountains. Montana, Colorado, Idaho, Washington, Oregon.... Northern california, as I think these are the most dramatic...
axolotl
08-25-09, 09:58 AM
If you crave mountainous conditions, then perhaps Montana or western N. Dakota would be good.
Did you perhaps mean western SOUTH Dakota?
Most of Michigan will be similar. (Many of us consider it to be the most beautiful state)
Many of us? How about "virtually none of us". At first I thought you were joking, but it seems clear you're not. Anyway, if this had been a joke, I would have expected something like "most of us consider New Jersey or Texas to be our most beautiful states".:lol:
Look, Michigan may be a perfectly pleasant place for a tour, but it's nowhere near the top of the list of states I would recommend to a foreign cyclist coming here for the first time. My own suggestions for Oscar would be the Rockies if he likes mountains, the Pacific coast if he likes coastline. As for individual states that I consider to be the overall best for touring, I would include Oregon, Colorado, Hawaii, and Vermont. Yeah, I like mountains and coastlines. Also Iowa, if you intend to take part in RAGBRAI.
Did you perhaps mean western SOUTH Dakota?
Most of Michigan will be similar. (Many of us consider it to be the most beautiful state)
Many of us? How about "virtually none of us". At first I thought you were joking, but it seems clear you're not. Anyway, if this had been a joke, I would have expected something like "most of us consider New Jersey or Texas to be our most beautiful states".:lol:
Look, Michigan may be a perfectly pleasant place for a tour, but it's nowhere near the top of the list of states I would recommend to a foreign cyclist coming here for the first time. My own suggestions for Oscar would be the Rockies if he likes mountains, the Pacific coast if he likes coastline. As for individual states that I consider to be the overall best for touring, I would include Oregon, Colorado, Hawaii, and Vermont. Yeah, I like mountains and coastlines. Also Iowa, if you intend to take part in RAGBRAI.
staehpj1
08-25-09, 10:07 AM
Many of us? How about "virtually none of us". At first I thought you were joking, but it seems clear you're not. Anyway, if this had been a joke, I would have expected something like "most of us consider New Jersey or Texas to be our most beautiful states".:lol:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but yeah it wouldn't make my top five (or ten or twenty).
BTW: Despite all of the jokes, New Jersey is actually a very nice state to ride in. I go to a century ride there every year and it is probably my favorite of all the centuries (http://www.sibike.org/ppp.html) I have done. Still I wouldn't personally call it one of the five most beautiful states, but someone might. Ditto for Texas, I know folks who prefer to ride there above just about any where.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but yeah it wouldn't make my top five (or ten or twenty).
BTW: Despite all of the jokes, New Jersey is actually a very nice state to ride in. I go to a century ride there every year and it is probably my favorite of all the centuries (http://www.sibike.org/ppp.html) I have done. Still I wouldn't personally call it one of the five most beautiful states, but someone might. Ditto for Texas, I know folks who prefer to ride there above just about any where.
RatedZeroHero
08-25-09, 10:16 AM
ummm I'm not sure oabout the statement...
everywhere East of the Rockies is humid...
I live in Nebraska and 20% is really high humidity... get it straight any place that is near a river or ocean or large body of water has humidity...
Texas is east of the Rockies as is New Mexico
everywhere East of the Rockies is humid...
I live in Nebraska and 20% is really high humidity... get it straight any place that is near a river or ocean or large body of water has humidity...
Texas is east of the Rockies as is New Mexico
Jim from Boston
08-25-09, 10:22 AM
Traveling to USA
Michigan would be a good choice, no doubt about that. But there are plenty of others, too.
Michigan is fine if you like a north-temperate, rural scene. But understand that you won't find anything like New York or Los Angeles there. You'll want to stay out of Michigan's cities. They are dying a rotten death right now. No fun to be had there.
(to the Michiganders; forgive me. I'm not bashing. I'm a native who loves MI. And I might well choose it as the most beautiful state. But for a foreign visitor I simply can't recommend Detroit over NY, LA, Chicago, etc.)
I'm a native Michigander, and just this morning I replied to a thread on the Great Lakes Regional Forum, "Thinking of vacationing Great Lakes/MI next summer. Ideas?":
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=577767
I appreciate your comments, and perhaps you should reply to that thread, but I think I honestly would recommend to a first time visitor to this country another region. Much to my surprise, nobody has recommended New England. :eek:. Beautiful backroads, villages with town greens, stone walls, exciting yet compact cities; the place where America began. I think the Virginia and Washington DC area offers a lot too.
Welcome. We can always use another bicyclist here...
If I were to choose a season and place, then maybe I'd go with Ohio east of a line, roughly, from Cleveland to Columbus and south, sometime around late September through early November (but no later than that). You would find there, mostly, trim and pretty countryside, mostly pretty good roads and nice weather. The further east you go, the more mountainous it will become. If you crave long climbs, then that's nice. But the roads will get worse...
Ohio!!!??? :roflmao2:
I'll leave the recommendation out west to the westerners; they are usually the majority opinion. BTW, I'm always amused at these requests to recommend somewhere to cycle in this country. Nobody in my experience has ever replied to my request to post where they decided to go, after being supplied with such eager suggestions. :(
Michigan would be a good choice, no doubt about that. But there are plenty of others, too.
Michigan is fine if you like a north-temperate, rural scene. But understand that you won't find anything like New York or Los Angeles there. You'll want to stay out of Michigan's cities. They are dying a rotten death right now. No fun to be had there.
(to the Michiganders; forgive me. I'm not bashing. I'm a native who loves MI. And I might well choose it as the most beautiful state. But for a foreign visitor I simply can't recommend Detroit over NY, LA, Chicago, etc.)
I'm a native Michigander, and just this morning I replied to a thread on the Great Lakes Regional Forum, "Thinking of vacationing Great Lakes/MI next summer. Ideas?":
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=577767
I appreciate your comments, and perhaps you should reply to that thread, but I think I honestly would recommend to a first time visitor to this country another region. Much to my surprise, nobody has recommended New England. :eek:. Beautiful backroads, villages with town greens, stone walls, exciting yet compact cities; the place where America began. I think the Virginia and Washington DC area offers a lot too.
Welcome. We can always use another bicyclist here...
If I were to choose a season and place, then maybe I'd go with Ohio east of a line, roughly, from Cleveland to Columbus and south, sometime around late September through early November (but no later than that). You would find there, mostly, trim and pretty countryside, mostly pretty good roads and nice weather. The further east you go, the more mountainous it will become. If you crave long climbs, then that's nice. But the roads will get worse...
Ohio!!!??? :roflmao2:
I'll leave the recommendation out west to the westerners; they are usually the majority opinion. BTW, I'm always amused at these requests to recommend somewhere to cycle in this country. Nobody in my experience has ever replied to my request to post where they decided to go, after being supplied with such eager suggestions. :(
axolotl
08-25-09, 10:25 AM
The part of NJ where the Appalachian Trail goes through is very pretty, I will acknowledge. I've biked and hiked there. But the rest of the state is hideous, with a mind-boggling blend of urban blight, concrete, and toxic waste sites. Thankfully, it's small, which is more than I can say for Texas.
BengeBoy
08-25-09, 10:27 AM
I think it's impossible to respond to the OP without knowing what time of year he's thinking about visiting.
Seattle would be *great* place to start a tour in the summer.
It would be a depressing place to start a tour in the winter.
Seattle would be *great* place to start a tour in the summer.
It would be a depressing place to start a tour in the winter.
staehpj1
08-25-09, 10:29 AM
The part of NJ where the Appalachian Trail goes through is very pretty, I will acknowledge. I've biked and hiked there. But the rest of the state is hideous, with a mind-boggling blend of urban blight, concrete, and toxic waste sites. Thankfully, it's small, which is more than I can say for Texas.
The Pine Barrens are nice as well, and there is lovely farm country even in much of eastern New Jersey. Again not in my top 5 list or even close, but it is actually pretty nice depending on where you go.
The Pine Barrens are nice as well, and there is lovely farm country even in much of eastern New Jersey. Again not in my top 5 list or even close, but it is actually pretty nice depending on where you go.
frpax
08-25-09, 10:29 AM
Hola Oscar, Bienvenidos!
Arizona is full of natural beauty- canyons and mountains. Can be very lonely though- the population is not very large- great for camping and feeling alone though. Its good for fall, some winter, and spring cycling. too hot in summer most places.
Generally, I prefer the western states, and the rocky mountains. Montana, Colorado, Idaho, Washington, Oregon.... Northern california, as I think these are the most dramatic...
+1 :thumb:
Arizona is full of natural beauty- canyons and mountains. Can be very lonely though- the population is not very large- great for camping and feeling alone though. Its good for fall, some winter, and spring cycling. too hot in summer most places.
Generally, I prefer the western states, and the rocky mountains. Montana, Colorado, Idaho, Washington, Oregon.... Northern california, as I think these are the most dramatic...
+1 :thumb:
axolotl
08-25-09, 10:58 AM
The Pine Barrens are nice as well, and there is lovely farm country even in much of eastern New Jersey. Again not in my top 5 list or even close, but it is actually pretty nice depending on where you go.
Ugh, I was just in eastern Jersey and the Pine Barrens (for a funeral). Hopefully that's the last time I ever have to go there. Sorry, it wouldn't make my top 45 states. I don't care if that kills any chance I had of them naming a NJ Turnpike rest stop after me.:p
Ugh, I was just in eastern Jersey and the Pine Barrens (for a funeral). Hopefully that's the last time I ever have to go there. Sorry, it wouldn't make my top 45 states. I don't care if that kills any chance I had of them naming a NJ Turnpike rest stop after me.:p
staehpj1
08-25-09, 11:45 AM
Ugh, I was just in eastern Jersey and the Pine Barrens (for a funeral). Hopefully that's the last time I ever have to go there. Sorry, it wouldn't make my top 45 states. I don't care if that kills any chance I had of them naming a NJ Turnpike rest stop after me.:p
:lol:
:lol:
John Nelson
08-25-09, 02:34 PM
Pick any of the ACA routes. You cannot go wrong. The ACA maps will keep you off of the worst roads and out of the largest cities. Once you do that, all of the U.S. is beautiful in its own way. Follow the seasonal guidelines given for each route.
mev
08-25-09, 06:38 PM
This notion of a "best" state for touring seems a bit strange without knowing time of year or Oscar's preferences. The analogous situation would be to ask if there is a "best" country in Europe to tour. A Spainard might think the answer is obviously Spain, but I'm sure others would disagree.
With that said, I have cycled in all 50 states and my personal preferences include:
Winter: Florida, Southern California and Hawaii have all been nice places for a winter getaway.
Spring: Texas Hill country, southern Utah and across the southern USA before it gets too hot.
Summer: Alaska, Pacific Northwest, Mountain States, Wisconsin and Maine.
Fall: New England.
With that said, I have cycled in all 50 states and my personal preferences include:
Winter: Florida, Southern California and Hawaii have all been nice places for a winter getaway.
Spring: Texas Hill country, southern Utah and across the southern USA before it gets too hot.
Summer: Alaska, Pacific Northwest, Mountain States, Wisconsin and Maine.
Fall: New England.
spinnaker
08-25-09, 06:56 PM
Thank you very much, excellent response. The weather conditions do not matter. I want to visit the most beautiful, then, I choose to michigan?
Yikes!!!! :innocent: No offense to my friends from Michigan but there are many better choices including Pennsylvania where I am from. But if I had to choose one place it would probably be the west coat of California.
It is beautiful.
It is hard to get lost.
The weather is great.
There are plenty of places to camp, stay in hotel, eat etc.
The food is delicious.
Yikes!!!! :innocent: No offense to my friends from Michigan but there are many better choices including Pennsylvania where I am from. But if I had to choose one place it would probably be the west coat of California.
It is beautiful.
It is hard to get lost.
The weather is great.
There are plenty of places to camp, stay in hotel, eat etc.
The food is delicious.
OSCARSEVILLA
08-26-09, 10:08 AM
Yikes!!!! :innocent: No offense to my friends from Michigan but there are many better choices including Pennsylvania where I am from. But if I had to choose one place it would probably be the west coat of California.
It is beautiful.
It is hard to get lost.
The weather is great.
There are plenty of places to camp, stay in hotel, eat etc.
The food is delicious.
:), I see that there are many beautiful sites in the U.S. but ... still not clear to me where to go, all you give good reasons for different places.
thanks for the help
It is beautiful.
It is hard to get lost.
The weather is great.
There are plenty of places to camp, stay in hotel, eat etc.
The food is delicious.
:), I see that there are many beautiful sites in the U.S. but ... still not clear to me where to go, all you give good reasons for different places.
thanks for the help
OSCARSEVILLA
08-26-09, 10:09 AM
This notion of a "best" state for touring seems a bit strange without knowing time of year or Oscar's preferences. The analogous situation would be to ask if there is a "best" country in Europe to tour. A Spainard might think the answer is obviously Spain, but I'm sure others would disagree.
With that said, I have cycled in all 50 states and my personal preferences include:
Winter: Florida, Southern California and Hawaii have all been nice places for a winter getaway.
Spring: Texas Hill country, southern Utah and across the southern USA before it gets too hot.
Summer: Alaska, Pacific Northwest, Mountain States, Wisconsin and Maine.
Fall: New England.
an exciting list, but very long, I choose a site, I know it's hard to choose
With that said, I have cycled in all 50 states and my personal preferences include:
Winter: Florida, Southern California and Hawaii have all been nice places for a winter getaway.
Spring: Texas Hill country, southern Utah and across the southern USA before it gets too hot.
Summer: Alaska, Pacific Northwest, Mountain States, Wisconsin and Maine.
Fall: New England.
an exciting list, but very long, I choose a site, I know it's hard to choose
BengeBoy
08-26-09, 10:11 AM
an exciting list, but very long, I choose a site, I know it's hard to choose
I think the members here could help you focus your list if you could tell what date you think you will come.
I think the members here could help you focus your list if you could tell what date you think you will come.
paul2
08-26-09, 10:27 AM
I would recommend the Pacific coast.
OSCARSEVILLA
08-27-09, 05:08 PM
I think the members here could help you focus your list if you could tell what date you think you will come.
You're right, but I'm not sure yet, probably go in March 2010.
I very much appreciate the help, you are much more useful than Google,;)
You're right, but I'm not sure yet, probably go in March 2010.
I very much appreciate the help, you are much more useful than Google,;)
OSCARSEVILLA
08-27-09, 05:09 PM
I would recommend the Pacific coast.
North or south?
North or south?
OSCARSEVILLA
08-27-09, 05:15 PM
Hola Oscar, Bienvenidos!
Arizona is full of natural beauty- canyons and mountains. Can be very lonely though- the population is not very large- great for camping and feeling alone though. Its good for fall, some winter, and spring cycling. too hot in summer most places.
Generally, I prefer the western states, and the rocky mountains. Montana, Colorado, Idaho, Washington, Oregon.... Northern california, as I think these are the most dramatic...
thanks positron.
There is free camping in arizona? legal?
Not too depopulated?
Arizona is full of natural beauty- canyons and mountains. Can be very lonely though- the population is not very large- great for camping and feeling alone though. Its good for fall, some winter, and spring cycling. too hot in summer most places.
Generally, I prefer the western states, and the rocky mountains. Montana, Colorado, Idaho, Washington, Oregon.... Northern california, as I think these are the most dramatic...
thanks positron.
There is free camping in arizona? legal?
Not too depopulated?
OSCARSEVILLA
08-27-09, 05:20 PM
What dates do you wish to travel? It makes a difference as to where you would want to be. How long do you intend to tour? Do you prefer a loop course or a point-to-point course? Are you going to camp or stay in motels? Will you have a support vehicle or not?
Does "along of the USA" mean a coast-to-coast route (Atlantic to Pacific or Pacific to Atlantic)? The Adventure Cycling Association produces many fine bicycle touring maps. You could very enjoyably follow any of them. They also conduct guided rides of many of these routes if you would prefer.
http://adventurecycling.org/routes/index.cfm
The USA is a very big place and there are many, many options. Give us some further idea of your preferences and we might be able to narrow it down a bit.
for the adventurecycling must pay
I want to be 1,2 o 3 months
Does "along of the USA" mean a coast-to-coast route (Atlantic to Pacific or Pacific to Atlantic)? The Adventure Cycling Association produces many fine bicycle touring maps. You could very enjoyably follow any of them. They also conduct guided rides of many of these routes if you would prefer.
http://adventurecycling.org/routes/index.cfm
The USA is a very big place and there are many, many options. Give us some further idea of your preferences and we might be able to narrow it down a bit.
for the adventurecycling must pay
I want to be 1,2 o 3 months
Niles H.
08-27-09, 05:24 PM
Hello, I´m new at this forum. I wish to travel along of the USA with my bike. What state do you recomend me to start with?, what is the best one for the cycling?
Thank you
California, Oregon.
That said, it has to depend on what you mean by "best."
Best in what way?
Best what(s)?
Thank you
California, Oregon.
That said, it has to depend on what you mean by "best."
Best in what way?
Best what(s)?
Niles H.
08-27-09, 05:26 PM
North or south?
Traveling from north to south is best for tailwinds, at least during and near the summer months.
The predominant wind patterns change at other times of the year.
Traveling from north to south is best for tailwinds, at least during and near the summer months.
The predominant wind patterns change at other times of the year.
Niles H.
08-27-09, 05:28 PM
Thank you very much, excellent response. The weather conditions do not matter. I want to visit the most beautiful, then, I choose to michigan?
The most beautiful is the West.
California is the single most beautiful and diverse state.
The most beautiful is the West.
California is the single most beautiful and diverse state.
OSCARSEVILLA
08-27-09, 05:35 PM
California, Oregon.
That said, it has to depend on what you mean by "best."
Best in what way?
Best what(s)?
better is nice, cheap and suitable for cycling
That said, it has to depend on what you mean by "best."
Best in what way?
Best what(s)?
better is nice, cheap and suitable for cycling
Niles H.
08-27-09, 05:35 PM
There is free camping....
The West is best for free camping. Once you learn what to look for and how to do it properly, there are plenty of opportunities. It is best to avoid urban areas, though. Free camping is a lot easier in forested or sparsely populated areas.
When the campgrounds along the Pacific Coast Route in Oregon and California are open, bikers can camp cheaply in them.
The West is best for free camping. Once you learn what to look for and how to do it properly, there are plenty of opportunities. It is best to avoid urban areas, though. Free camping is a lot easier in forested or sparsely populated areas.
When the campgrounds along the Pacific Coast Route in Oregon and California are open, bikers can camp cheaply in them.
OSCARSEVILLA
08-27-09, 05:37 PM
Traveling from north to south is best for tailwinds, at least during and near the summer months.
The predominant wind patterns change at other times of the year.
ok, the wind is very important
The predominant wind patterns change at other times of the year.
ok, the wind is very important
OSCARSEVILLA
08-27-09, 05:38 PM
The West is best for free camping. Once you learn what to look for and how to do it properly, there are plenty of opportunities. It is best to avoid urban areas, though. Free camping is a lot easier in forested or sparsely populated areas.
When the campgrounds along the Pacific Coast Route in Oregon and California are open, bikers can camp cheaply.
but is legal in USA the free camp?, Not is in Spain
When the campgrounds along the Pacific Coast Route in Oregon and California are open, bikers can camp cheaply.
but is legal in USA the free camp?, Not is in Spain
Niles H.
08-27-09, 05:40 PM
better is nice, cheap and suitable for cycling
Rural California and Oregon.
Parts of Oregon and Northern California get a lot of rain, especially in March and April. Other parts get very little. Much of California and parts of Oregon get little or no rain from May - October.
Highway 395 and the Eastern Sierra are worth a look.
The Sierras are beautiful.
Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35I_A6BRl8E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Saleo1pj8&feature=related
California is astonishingly diverse.
Rural California and Oregon.
Parts of Oregon and Northern California get a lot of rain, especially in March and April. Other parts get very little. Much of California and parts of Oregon get little or no rain from May - October.
Highway 395 and the Eastern Sierra are worth a look.
The Sierras are beautiful.
Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35I_A6BRl8E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Saleo1pj8&feature=related
California is astonishingly diverse.
Niles H.
08-27-09, 05:51 PM
but is legal in USA the free camp?, Not is in Spain
It depends on where you are.
In some areas (especially, in much of the rural West) no one cares, and better yet no one knows you are there.
I've done it many times and had very few problems, especially in sparsely populated areas. If you know what you are doing, and are in the right areas, it is very easy. No problem. Really.
If you do a search for "stealth camping" you can find some good tips.
Ken Kifer's website has excellent instructions on free camping.
http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/index.htm
It depends on where you are.
In some areas (especially, in much of the rural West) no one cares, and better yet no one knows you are there.
I've done it many times and had very few problems, especially in sparsely populated areas. If you know what you are doing, and are in the right areas, it is very easy. No problem. Really.
If you do a search for "stealth camping" you can find some good tips.
Ken Kifer's website has excellent instructions on free camping.
http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/index.htm
Niles H.
08-27-09, 05:56 PM
Here is a good article on wild camping:
http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/touring/camping.htm
http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/touring/camping.htm
OSCARSEVILLA
08-27-09, 05:59 PM
Rural California and Oregon.
Parts of Oregon and Northern California get a lot of rain, especially in March and April. Other parts get very little. Much of California and parts of Oregon get little or no rain from April - October.
Highway 395 and the Eastern Sierra are worth a look.
The Sierras are beautiful.
Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35I_A6BRl8E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Saleo1pj8&feature=related
California is astonishingly diverse.
Snow in summer?
Parts of Oregon and Northern California get a lot of rain, especially in March and April. Other parts get very little. Much of California and parts of Oregon get little or no rain from April - October.
Highway 395 and the Eastern Sierra are worth a look.
The Sierras are beautiful.
Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35I_A6BRl8E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Saleo1pj8&feature=related
California is astonishingly diverse.
Snow in summer?
OSCARSEVILLA
08-27-09, 06:04 PM
Here is a good article on wild camping:
http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/touring/camping.htm
SUPER NILES JUST TAKE ME CAMPING FOR FREE, I HAVE TO FIND THAT STATES IT LEGAL TO NOT HAVE PROBLEMS, TO BE SPANISH may have more problems than you. IS THE BEST, IN CONTACT WITH NATURE AND FREE. THE VERY GOOD LINK
VERY VERY THANKS YOU
http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/touring/camping.htm
SUPER NILES JUST TAKE ME CAMPING FOR FREE, I HAVE TO FIND THAT STATES IT LEGAL TO NOT HAVE PROBLEMS, TO BE SPANISH may have more problems than you. IS THE BEST, IN CONTACT WITH NATURE AND FREE. THE VERY GOOD LINK
VERY VERY THANKS YOU
Niles H.
08-27-09, 06:16 PM
Snow in summer?
They were in Yosemite in the fall -- maybe October. That's when the first serious snows often happen in the Sierras (after summer).
The Sierras can be cold, especially at night, at higher elevations -- even when most of the state is warm. Tioga Pass is nearly 10,000 feet high.
*******
In much of the West, free camping is easy. You'll enjoy it.
They were in Yosemite in the fall -- maybe October. That's when the first serious snows often happen in the Sierras (after summer).
The Sierras can be cold, especially at night, at higher elevations -- even when most of the state is warm. Tioga Pass is nearly 10,000 feet high.
*******
In much of the West, free camping is easy. You'll enjoy it.
Niles H.
08-27-09, 06:51 PM
There are some good videos here about cycling the coast,
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=bike+touring+the+california+redwoods&hl=en&emb=0#
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=bike+touring+the+california+redwoods&hl=en&emb=0#
staehpj1
08-28-09, 04:55 AM
You're right, but I'm not sure yet, probably go in March 2010.
March is kind of early for much of the US. In the Rockies it is likely to be cold and possibly snowing, some of the passes are likely to still be snowed in. In much of the rest of the US it is likely to be wet with a chance for snow at higher elevations, even in the East or South East. If starting then I would be inclined to start in the East and travel across the country. I would probably use some variation on Adventure Cycling's Trans America route and be prepared for possible weather delays.
March is kind of early for much of the US. In the Rockies it is likely to be cold and possibly snowing, some of the passes are likely to still be snowed in. In much of the rest of the US it is likely to be wet with a chance for snow at higher elevations, even in the East or South East. If starting then I would be inclined to start in the East and travel across the country. I would probably use some variation on Adventure Cycling's Trans America route and be prepared for possible weather delays.
staehpj1
08-28-09, 05:08 AM
but is legal in USA the free camp?, Not is in Spain
Different strokes and all that, but I prefer to avoid stealth camping when possible and only stealth camp if other options don't pan out (this has seldom happened). That said there are still many opportunities to camp for free without the need for stealth.
Town parks, church yards, and even people's lawns are all options. If you use the Adventure Cycling maps many free places will be listed at least on the Trans America. Other places I have asked about camping in the town park in small towns and often either gotten permission or at least an indication that I was unlikely to be bothered. Where possible I ask at the local police, fire house, or library. Sometimes you can get leads from clerks in convenience stores or customers and wait staff at restaurants.
Additionally some churches and private citizens will let you stay indoors. Some of these are listed on the Trans America Maps. If in doubt about finding places to stay, that alone is probably worth the cost of the maps.
This all seems to work the best in the middle of the country and the West. It is a bit harder to find free places in parts of the east.
In some places pay campgrounds are expensive, in others very cheap, but over all I think we averaged something like $5 or less per night when crossing the US. It helped that there were three of us in one tent sharing expenses though. That included staying in a motel once and expensive campgrounds a few times.
Different strokes and all that, but I prefer to avoid stealth camping when possible and only stealth camp if other options don't pan out (this has seldom happened). That said there are still many opportunities to camp for free without the need for stealth.
Town parks, church yards, and even people's lawns are all options. If you use the Adventure Cycling maps many free places will be listed at least on the Trans America. Other places I have asked about camping in the town park in small towns and often either gotten permission or at least an indication that I was unlikely to be bothered. Where possible I ask at the local police, fire house, or library. Sometimes you can get leads from clerks in convenience stores or customers and wait staff at restaurants.
Additionally some churches and private citizens will let you stay indoors. Some of these are listed on the Trans America Maps. If in doubt about finding places to stay, that alone is probably worth the cost of the maps.
This all seems to work the best in the middle of the country and the West. It is a bit harder to find free places in parts of the east.
In some places pay campgrounds are expensive, in others very cheap, but over all I think we averaged something like $5 or less per night when crossing the US. It helped that there were three of us in one tent sharing expenses though. That included staying in a motel once and expensive campgrounds a few times.
Walfredo
08-28-09, 06:54 AM
If you go in March avoid the great plains as tornadoes would suck to encounter. I'd stick with west of the Rockies as others have mentioned. Although the northeastern part of the country is quite nice too. Not sure how far north you would want to go in March though.
positron
08-28-09, 07:30 AM
thanks positron.
There is free camping in arizona? legal?
Not too depopulated?
Hola Oscar,
There is loads of free camping in Arizona, and it is LOVELY in March. Seriously, the best time to see the desert, There are flowers everywhere in March and April. I like the southeastern part of the state quite a bit, but the northern part of the state is great too... it will be colder in the northern part of AZ, but not too bad. the east side of the state is nicer than the west (more mounatins, forests, and variety)
here are a couple sites to give you a feel for it:
http://www.birdfotos.com/az-highways/highways.htm
http://www.gosojourn.com/arizona/arizona_gallery.php
wherever you end up, buen viaje!
There is free camping in arizona? legal?
Not too depopulated?
Hola Oscar,
There is loads of free camping in Arizona, and it is LOVELY in March. Seriously, the best time to see the desert, There are flowers everywhere in March and April. I like the southeastern part of the state quite a bit, but the northern part of the state is great too... it will be colder in the northern part of AZ, but not too bad. the east side of the state is nicer than the west (more mounatins, forests, and variety)
here are a couple sites to give you a feel for it:
http://www.birdfotos.com/az-highways/highways.htm
http://www.gosojourn.com/arizona/arizona_gallery.php
wherever you end up, buen viaje!
staehpj1
08-28-09, 11:19 AM
If you go in March avoid the great plains as tornadoes would suck to encounter. I'd stick with west of the Rockies as others have mentioned. Although the northeastern part of the country is quite nice too. Not sure how far north you would want to go in March though.
I have no personal experience on this, but people I know who have lived their whole lives on the plains have never seen a tornado, so I wouldn't get too put off by the possibility. But, that is just one opinion.
I have no personal experience on this, but people I know who have lived their whole lives on the plains have never seen a tornado, so I wouldn't get too put off by the possibility. But, that is just one opinion.