Living Car Free - Luxury or Necessity - Public Takes A U-Turn

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Dahon.Steve
08-28-09, 11:28 PM
Here's a good article from the Pew Research Center on what Americans consider necessities in life have fallen since the recession took place. Since hundreds of thousands have lost their jobs or savings, people are now starting to see how even motoring is in fact a luxury and not a necessity! Still, there are way too out there who think a car is a necessity and this is going to change within our lifetime. As the motorcar becomes more and more expensive, people will start to view it as the luxury as the population will be able to afford it.
As I look at the list that Americans call necessities, I noticed something very strange. I don't own many of the items on this list! LOL! The items on the list that I do own, are not that expensive with the exception of my high speed internet and my prepaid cell phone.
What amazes me are things that I consider necessities are not on the list at all like a refrigerator, fresh fruits and vegetables, public transportation, access to jobs, clean water and a bicycle etc. There are so many things I would consider a necessity but a motorcar is not even on short or long list.
If you read the article, people are cutting back on their lifestyle like never before since they began making the study. This is due to the fact that motoring sucked all the discretionary income from the middle class since the economy collapsed. People are shopping less, changing cell phone providers, drinking and smoking less and doing everything imaginable just to keep their cars. No belt tightening here at all! Yet, the necessity of motoring is bankrupting Americans and if this recession told you anything, the need to live on less will become the norm and it starts with selling your car. In fact, if they sold their motorcar and went car free, Americans can still keep their silly lifestyle with little change.
http://pewsocialtrends.org/pubs/733/luxury-necessity-recession-era-reevaluations#pew-research-jump
Robert Foster
08-29-09, 12:05 AM
If people sold their cars in my state they wouldn’t have a job to worry about income. We have poor mass transit. The freeways don’t allow bikes on them and they are the most direct route to where most people work. So unless they are going to live on the dole selling their car will be a long way off. I believe I have read somewhere the average commute in Southern California is 38 miles one way. And with the government giving people money specifically to buy new cars it isn’t likely things will change much in my lifetime.
But it is an interesting dream. We can wait and see what happens.
This is a video of a lecture given by Elizabeth Warren at UC Berkeley in 2007. Warren is currently the chair of the Congressional Oversight Panel created to oversee the U.S. banking bailout. The subject of this talk is how the economic life of American families has changed in the past 40 years. I think it's a very illuminating discussion of how middle class American families have come under severe financial pressure.
"The Coming Collapse of the Middle Class"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akVL7QY0S8A
Warren's key point is that in general it now takes two incomes to support a family with children. Each working parent typically needs a car. In constant dollar terms, the cost of owning a car has actually decreased somewhat over the last 40 years. However, the present day family owns multiple cars, which increases the car expense.
Since both parents are working, there are also significant child care expenses which were not required 40 years ago.
The other main sources of increased expense are health related costs and housing. An interesting point Warren makes is that the increased expense of housing is driven significantly by the desire of families to locate within desireable school districts.
I don't see present day middle class families in trouble because of their excessively luxurious lifestyles. The expenses that challenge them are mainly the ones that most people would agree are the real necessities: transportation to jobs, child care, health insurance and good educational opportunities for the children.
Considering all these issues, it seems difficult for modern families to become even car light. I'm not saying it can't be done, just that it's not easy.
zeppinger
08-29-09, 02:02 AM
By and large, throughout human history the single adult working family has been the exception rather than the rule. The modern economic conditions that require two working adults for every house is actually a normalization of that trend. We dont think of it that way because every statistic ever sighted in America comes from the 1950s. Fifty years ago it was more common for only one adult to work sure, but one hundred years ago and for thousands of years before that in almost every society around the world both parents work.
I-Like-To-Bike
08-29-09, 06:22 AM
Considering all these issues, it seems difficult for modern families to become even car light. I'm not saying it can't be done, just that it's not easy.
As we see often on this list, it is quite easy for some single men with no families, living in urban areas or near college campuses, to post how foolish/immoral those modern families are for not adapting the lifestyle of the self righteous cyclist who has replaced his "family" car.
I-Like-To-Bike
08-29-09, 06:30 AM
By and large, throughout human history the single adult working family has been the exception rather than the rule. The modern economic conditions that require two working adults for every house is actually a normalization of that trend.
Probably child labor has been the world wide norm too. Maybe more "normalization" will permit the right sizing (literally) of the coal miner workforce so they won't have to stoop so much. More right sizing "normalization" sounds good for field work too, eh?
And as an added benefit, they will all be car free!
Dahon.Steve
08-29-09, 08:00 AM
If people sold their cars in my state they wouldn’t have a job to worry about income. We have poor mass transit. The freeways don’t allow bikes on them and they are the most direct route to where most people work. So unless they are going to live on the dole selling their car will be a long way off. I believe I have read somewhere the average commute in Southern California is 38 miles one way. And with the government giving people money specifically to buy new cars it isn’t likely things will change much in my lifetime.
But it is an interesting dream. We can wait and see what happens.
It could very well happen in the future.
I don't see the prices of motoring decreasing any time soon and this more than anything else is changing attitudes. All it took was for gas to hit $4.00 dollars a gallon for people to start bicycling to work, shopping less and cutting their overall travel. It was the high price of fuel that started this recession and the massive layoffs that followed. This study by the Pew group is a prime example of what happen when gas hits a ceiling that strips Americans away of their descretionary income.
Dahon.Steve
08-29-09, 08:18 AM
Warren's key point is that in general it now takes two incomes to support a family with children. Each working parent typically needs a car. In constant dollar terms, the cost of owning a car has actually decreased somewhat over the last 40 years. However, the present day family owns multiple cars, which increases the car expense.
I saw the Google video and it was very important.
It only takes one income to support a family today but you have to live on less and become car free. This would free up enough money for the wife to live at home because she's a high income earner, most of her income goes to pay for day care, two cars and food for the family. In other words, the wife's contribution can be replaced if the husband takes a part time job over the weekened. Warren did not see the problem which reated the situation for Americans as families went from a no car family to a two cars in the past 40 years.
The cars forced the wife to go out and work.
Robert Foster
08-29-09, 08:48 AM
It could very well happen in the future.
I don't see the prices of motoring decreasing any time soon and this more than anything else is changing attitudes. All it took was for gas to hit $4.00 dollars a gallon for people to start bicycling to work, shopping less and cutting their overall travel. It was the high price of fuel that started this recession and the massive layoffs that followed. This study by the Pew group is a prime example of what happen when gas hits a ceiling that strips Americans away of their descretionary income.
Most reports I have read blame the collapse of the housing market as the prime cause of the economic problems we are facing. High fuel was credited with lowering out national gas consumption but it is also credited with fueling a new desire for alternative fuels rather than more bicycles. And we still aren’t riding as many bicycles per capita as people were in the 70s.
While you may be correct that people are looking for alternatives to gas driven cars it doesn’t seem like bicycles are high on the list of things the working families of the US are looking for as a solution. I agree for many it would be a move in the right direction. My fuel bill is considerably lower now than it has been even when fuel was a buck a gallon. But for the working family it isn’t a solution that will be reached willingly by most of the American public. Unless you are predicting a collapse of our society and a fall into third world status for the US? That is possible but it seems as if car consumption is increasing in China and India so as a world form of transportation bicycles are losing ground in a more traditional stronghold than in the US. I have read there has been some resistance by the college are youth against this move towards cars in Asia but I am not sure they have the economic clout to resist it.
It only takes one income to support a family today but you have to live on less and become car free...
Yes, but the present day "geography of suburbia" makes that hard to do. Right now, any ideas for reducing the car dependency of middle class families are immediately dismissed as "third world living" and rejected out of hand.
The other main sources of increased expense are health related costs and housing. An interesting point Warren makes is that the increased expense of housing is driven significantly by the desire of families to locate within desireable school districts.
So by improving schools the supply of houses within desireable school districts increases, decreasing the cost of such housing, reduceing family expenses in a chain reaction......
I-Like-To-Bike
08-29-09, 01:14 PM
So by improving schools the supply of houses within desireable school districts increases, decreasing the cost of such housing, reduceing family expenses in a chain reaction......
Can you provide some examples (or even one example) where "improving" schools (whatever that means other than changing the student population) in an urban school district was the catalyst for such a chain reaction in housing costs or family expenses?
So by improving schools the supply of houses within desireable school districts increases, decreasing the cost of such housing, reduceing family expenses in a chain reaction......
Yes. The problem is that improving a few schools doesn't necessarily initiate a virtuous feedback cycle that increases the motivation to further improve more schools in other neighborhoods.
On the other hand, it's easy to initiate the opposite vicious feedback cycle. Decreased funding -> debilitated schools -> declining property values -> further decreased funding.
I've dug around a bit and though I can't seem to connect to my university's VPN to pull journal articles right now, this should be a good starting point:
Consider University City, the West Philadelphia neighborhood surrounding the University of Pennsylvania. In an effort to improve the area, the university committed funds for a new elementary school. The results? At the time of the announcement, in 1998, the median home value in the area was less than $60,000. Five years later, according to The Philadelphia Inquirer, “homes within the boundaries go for about $200,000, even if they need to be totally renovated.” The neighborhood is otherwise pretty much the same: the same commute to work, the same distance from the freeways, the same old houses. And yet, in five years families are willing to pay more than triple the price for a home, just so they can send their kids to a better public elementary school.
--http://bostonreview.net/BR30.5/warrentyagi.php
Anyone who has a LexisNexis account can probably get the full article citation.
Another big issue is the lack of job stability.
Another thought on schools:
As an area's schools improve, most of the benefits are probably felt by the immediate area. Let's say that 1 improved school yields an improvement that we call "100 points, to be spent on any government project" (this should cover property taxes et al). The people who are closest to the school will almost certainly want to retain all 100. Thus, I would expect such efforts to create segregated alcoves.
I-Like-To-Bike
08-29-09, 02:46 PM
I've dug around a bit and though I can't seem to connect to my university's VPN to pull journal articles right now, this should be a good starting point:
Consider University City, the West Philadelphia neighborhood surrounding the University of Pennsylvania. In an effort to improve the area, the university committed funds for a new elementary school. The results? At the time of the announcement, in 1998, the median home value in the area was less than $60,000. Five years later, according to The Philadelphia Inquirer, “homes within the boundaries go for about $200,000, even if they need to be totally renovated.” The neighborhood is otherwise pretty much the same: the same commute to work, the same distance from the freeways, the same old houses. And yet, in five years families are willing to pay more than triple the price for a home, just so they can send their kids to a better public elementary school.
--http://bostonreview.net/BR30.5/warrentyagi.php
I'd be Real interested in which school and which boundaries were cherry picked in that devastated section of West Philadelphia for this amazing "starting point." Especially a public school financed by a private University. I used to live in West Philadelphia at 40th and Walnut as well as at 46th and Sansom, and my daughter lived at 33rd and Spring Garden for 4 years while going to the University. I suspect the "starting" and ending point is an enclave of gentrified townhouses built for and occupied by a select handful of people affiliated with the University/Medical complex and has little to no relationship with its less privileged neighbors or neighborhoods.
wild animals
08-29-09, 05:05 PM
When gas got really expensive, no one I know starting walking or biking anywhere. They gave up other things instead (although they did seem to lay off the "pleasure driving" and avoidable trips). A handful of people that I know may have been able to bike or walk to work relatively easily, but otherwise, this is a rural/suburban county, and most people here who don't have access to a car are unable or find it difficult to find & keep a job, access medical care (especially if you have Kaiser, which is a half-hour or more away by car, in any direction) or make certain purchases (which, for many people, include groceries). The center of my town, where the highway is, is flat, but the outskirts to the west are small mountains. Riding up those hills is exceedingly difficult. To me, all that makes a motorized vehicle access a necessity for an awful lot of people, at least to the extent that employment, groceries and medical care are necessities.
I'd be Real interested in which school and which boundaries were cherry picked in that devastated section of West Philadelphia for this amazing "starting point." Especially a public school financed by a private University. I used to live in West Philadelphia at 40th and Walnut as well as at 46th and Sansom, and my daughter lived at 33rd and Spring Garden for 4 years while going to the University. I suspect the "starting" and ending point is an enclave of gentrified townhouses built for and occupied by a select handful of people affiliated with the University/Medical complex and has little to no relationship with its less privileged neighbors or neighborhoods.I'm pretty sure it's Penn Alexander charter school. The boundaries were drawn like voting districts to include certain blocks and not others.
Penn has gentrified West Philly as a whole though. Home prices are WAY up from when my parents moved into it as a ghetto 25 years ago.
Anyway, those same parents managed to live that entire 25 years without owning a car; I think an awful lot of people could do similar if they chose to live in urban areas instead of the suburbs, and to live near where they work.
I don't know if this direct link will work if called from outside, but it's a map of the Penn Alexander catchment zone:
http://philadelphiarealestatehub.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/catchmentmap.gif
It seems to show that 40th & Walnut is the northeast boundary and 46th & Sansom is the northwest boundary.
Wouldn't it be great if in the future "Improve the Local Schools" becomes the generally accepted first step for every aspiring real estate developer.
However, it would be ironic to see middle class families getting priced out of their neighborhoods because they succeeded in improving their local schools.
DahonSteve:
Your comment about the car making the wife go out to work unnerved me a little, because it reminded me of the day my 2nd wife (now x)'threw' my mother out of our house.
I was at work, wife was home w/ our daughter, 3 @ the time; mother came over, and during her visit, made some very pointed comments and unsolicited advice. In essence, she told my wife to FORCE me to go out and get a 2nd job, hand BOTH paychecks over to her to run the household (mother claimed I had no money-management skills), and that the 2nd job would also keep me from damaging the kids (wife came with kids from her 1st), as I also had no parenting skills -- point to ponder, since 'mom' made d*mn sure she was the only parent in my life by age 10!
My wife told her, calmly and quietly, that the kids loved me and I loved them, she wasn't going to separate me from them, and that we were doing 'just fine' -- then said, "Now, you can get out of my house." My mother left, sputtering, and never broached the subject again.
I'm still tight w/ x #2....
I-Like-To-Bike
08-30-09, 07:03 AM
I'm pretty sure it's Penn Alexander charter school. The boundaries were drawn like voting districts to include certain blocks and not others.
Penn has gentrified West Philly as a whole though. Home prices are WAY up from when my parents moved into it as a ghetto 25 years ago.
Anyway, those same parents managed to live that entire 25 years without owning a car; I think an awful lot of people could do similar if they chose to live in urban areas instead of the suburbs, and to live near where they work.
I don't know if this direct link will work if called from outside, but it's a map of the Penn Alexander catchment zone:
http://philadelphiarealestatehub.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/catchmentmap.gif
It seems to show that 40th & Walnut is the northeast boundary and 46th & Sansom is the northwest boundary.
Wouldn't it be great if in the future "Improve the Local Schools" becomes the generally accepted first step for every aspiring real estate developer.
However, it would be ironic to see middle class families getting priced out of their neighborhoods because they succeeded in improving their local schools.
Thanks for the info,
I looked up the Penn Alexander Charter School/Housing Boom and found this article enlightening.
http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2009/05/03/ivys_growth_transforms_a_city/
It always helps to have a University invest $500 million into a limited housing area to help boost real estate values (at least temporarily), and have it devote resources and faculty to the success of a specific elementary school in that area.
Sounds like a good school for the lucky individuals who get to go, far better than any other nearby public elementary school. Maybe the University will get generous and shower money on West Philadelphia and Overbrook High Schools too.
Thanks for the info,
I looked up the Penn Alexander Charter School/Housing Boom and found this article enlightening.
http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2009/05/03/ivys_growth_transforms_a_city/
It always helps to have a University invest $500 million into a limited housing area to help boost real estate values (at least temporarily), and have it devote resources and faculty to the success of a specific elementary school in that area.
Sounds like a good school for the lucky individuals who get to go, far better than any other nearby public elementary school. Maybe the University will get generous and shower money on West Philadelphia and Overbrook High Schools too.
It's the old Town & Gown issue of how universities should relate to their surrounding communities.
It seems quite odd to me that these medieval quasi-monastic institutions coexist so happily with the rest of our modern world.
I think there's general agreement that communities around universities offer some of the best opportunities around for car free living. They tend to be compact as opposed to sprawled. They have a reasonably stable employment base. They have a population density that supports quite an interesting variety of small retail shops. Then of course there are still strong vestiges of the old tradition of students and faculty living on or near campus.
Providing a good place for children to grow up isn't one of the stated goals of any university. In practice, universities have usually accommodated the reality that graduate students and young faculty often have families and children.
Sounds like a good school for the lucky individuals who get to go, far better than any other nearby public elementary school.
Correct.
Maybe the University will get generous and shower money on West Philadelphia and Overbrook High Schools too.
Unlikely.
Yes. The problem is that improving a few schools doesn't necessarily initiate a virtuous feedback cycle that increases the motivation to further improve more schools in other neighborhoods.
On the other hand, it's easy to initiate the opposite vicious feedback cycle. Decreased funding -> debilitated schools -> declining property values -> further decreased funding.
It read like you're post implied improved schools -> more housing in good school districts -> less dependence of house prices on school district -> more choices for families -> lower shelter cost. Some of my neighbors with young families choose to stay car-free in the city depending on the school situation. With improved DC schools the story is that more families are raising their kids here. Its true with some of my neighbors. If ALL the schools were good it wouldn't be a topic of discussion for them. A co-worker paid a premium for a house across the street from a school with a good reputation. Its weird that the city councils don't see that improving the public schools compared to those in adjacent cities can increase the tax base. On the other hand if families could pretty much assume their little darlings would be educated well in any school then school quality wouldn't have much effect on shelter costs- just proximity. It would enhance the value of a home if you're kids had a safe way to walk or bike to school.
I-Like-To-Bike
08-30-09, 11:54 AM
Correct.
Unlikely.
Also seems unlikely that many of the "gentry" slice of Penn Alexander Charter School parents will be sending their own to the nearby public high schools after graduation. They may even have to move to a better school district or send them off to private schools.
If people sold their cars in my state they wouldn’t have a job to worry about income. We have poor mass transit. The freeways don’t allow bikes on them and they are the most direct route to where most people work. So unless they are going to live on the dole selling their car will be a long way off. I believe I have read somewhere the average commute in Southern California is 38 miles one way. And with the government giving people money specifically to buy new cars it isn’t likely things will change much in my lifetime.
But it is an interesting dream. We can wait and see what happens.
I imagine that if a significant minority of the population quit driving, we would see an immediate improvement of alternatives like better public transit and bike facilities. Common city streets would be much safer for everybody if there was, say, a third fewer cars hogging them.
"If you come, they will build it."
wahoonc
08-31-09, 06:00 AM
I saw NO necessities on that list, we are very spoiled as Americans compared to much of the world's population. Necessities are: Food, clean water, shelter, clothing and basic medical care. Everything else is an add on, not necessarily a luxury, though I believe that a sizable portion of that list would fall into the luxury category.
Aaron:)
One rather heartening observation from the Pew study is that many "necessities" of several years ago are now seen as luxuries. I suppose some of this is due to last year's oil price spike and this year's recession.
You can say a lot of bad things about an economic downturn, but it certainly does set people's priorities straight.
Of 12 items tested, six dropped significantly in the necessity rankings from 2006 to 2009, while the other six basically held their own. All of the "old-tech" household appliances on the list dropped in their necessity ratings. For example, the proportion of people who rate a clothes dryer as a necessity fell by 17 percentage points in the past three years. There are similar declines for the home air conditioner (16 points), the dishwasher (14 points) and the television set (12 points).
GodsBassist
08-31-09, 09:09 PM
I imagine that if a significant minority of the population quit driving, we would see an immediate improvement of alternatives like better public transit and bike facilities. Common city streets would be much safer for everybody if there was, say, a third fewer cars hogging them.
"If you come, they will build it."
Exactly what I was going to say. Unless the way communities are laid out changes, car free will generally never be attainable to people that don't specifically have it in mind when relocating. But infrastructure changing doesn't always mean car free, so it's hard to justify rezoning things to fit a less car reliant layout.
In fact, the drop in percentage of people 'requiring' a car since 1996 may be due solely to the urbanization of the American population.
Interesting list of necessities. A couple of observations.
One, Americans take for granted that survival and safety have been met. Therefore, the items on the list now become necessities. I agree with others, that food, shelter, and safety are true necessities and everything else is a luxuary. However, I am aware that survival and safety are not guarenteed. As a backpacker, I have to be concerned with survival and safety first, then I can focus on comfort.
Second, it is interesting that the items on the list are what the current generation has grown up with. As this question of only the +60 year olds and they may remember the great depression and survival and safety was paramount to them.
Third, people are not on the list. No family, friends, co-workers. It is all items that can be replaced (usually do to obselence). Most people following BF would consider their friends and family the most important item in their life. How many of you would consider hanging around with friends a joy in their life that they would not even consider giving up???
We Americans are very spoiled with the basics of life being provided for. How many other countries (besides First World Countries) assure their citizens of the basic right to survival, safety, and human freedom. Always thank God that we were born (or moved to) a country that allows us to take for granted the basics of life.
Nightshade
09-20-09, 12:15 PM
This is a video of a lecture given by Elizabeth Warren at UC Berkeley in 2007. Warren is currently the chair of the Congressional Oversight Panel created to oversee the U.S. banking bailout. The subject of this talk is how the economic life of American families has changed in the past 40 years. I think it's a very illuminating discussion of how middle class American families have come under severe financial pressure.
"The Coming Collapse of the Middle Class"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akVL7QY0S8A
Warren's key point is that in general it now takes two incomes to support a family with children. Each working parent typically needs a car. In constant dollar terms, the cost of owning a car has actually decreased somewhat over the last 40 years. However, the present day family owns multiple cars, which increases the car expense.
Since both parents are working, there are also significant child care expenses which were not required 40 years ago.
The other main sources of increased expense are health related costs and housing. An interesting point Warren makes is that the increased expense of housing is driven significantly by the desire of families to locate within desireable school districts.
I don't see present day middle class families in trouble because of their excessively luxurious lifestyles. The expenses that challenge them are mainly the ones that most people would agree are the real necessities: transportation to jobs, child care, health insurance and good educational opportunities for the children.
Considering all these issues, it seems difficult for modern families to become even car light. I'm not saying it can't be done, just that it's not easy.
Not only is "necessities" dragging down the middle class forced consumerism adds the Coup de grâce to middle class lifestyle.
Wanderer
09-20-09, 12:58 PM
Coming from Pew, I'm sure that wouldn't be biased ------- (insert eyeroll here...)
Not only is "necessities" dragging down the middle class forced consumerism adds the Coup de grâce to middle class lifestyle.
I guess it's time for someone to post the obligatory links to the four part video documentary "The Century of the Self". I found it to be a real eye opener. (If you can't play these videos on your computer, just Google for "The Century of the Self" - it's all over the web and you might find it in another video format.)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8953172273825999151#
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-678466363224520614#
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6111922724894802811#
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1122532358497501036#
did you see microwaves? There might be a flaw to this study. Microwaves should allow you to easily save money.
wahoonc
09-22-09, 06:24 AM
did you see microwaves? There might be a flaw to this study. Microwaves should allow you to easily save money.
How so? In my experience most people use them to heat up left over restaurant food or microwave ready junk food. We have one and all I ever use it for is to reheat leftovers when I am in a hurry, or to warm up a cup of coffee that has sat too long.
Aaron:)
Elkhound
09-22-09, 09:54 AM
How so? In my experience most people use them to heat up left over restaurant food or microwave ready junk food. We have one and all I ever use it for is to reheat leftovers when I am in a hurry, or to warm up a cup of coffee that has sat too long.
Aaron:)
According to a study at the University of Utah (I can't find the link now), vegetables cooked in the microwave retain more nutrients than vegetables cooked most other ways.
And you can use it to re-heat more than 'leftover restaurant food.' Ever made a big pot of chilli or stew, ladled it into single-serving containers, and freeze them? Or, if you garden and produce more fruits and vegetables than you can easily eat as they come out of the garden, freezing is a lot easier than canning as a way to preserve them for the winter.
BarracksSi
09-22-09, 11:44 AM
I imagine that if a significant minority of the population quit driving, we would see an immediate improvement of alternatives like better public transit and bike facilities. Common city streets would be much safer for everybody if there was, say, a third fewer cars hogging them.
"If you come, they will build it."
Until it's built, they gotta get to work somehow.
By and large, throughout human history the single adult working family has been the exception rather than the rule. The modern economic conditions that require two working adults for every house is actually a normalization of that trend. We dont think of it that way because every statistic ever sighted in America comes from the 1950s. Fifty years ago it was more common for only one adult to work sure, but one hundred years ago and for thousands of years before that in almost every society around the world both parents work. Huh? Yeah, both parents work, for sure, but both parents do not commute 38 miles one way to get to work. In fact, the woman was likely to work around the household (the same way she did in the 1950s America), and the man would not necessarily travel far for work either, if at all. For that matter, not much travel was done by the masses prior to the 20th century, since transportation options and the road network was rather limited most places.