Alohaman
08-31-09, 04:19 PM
To start with, I am not really knowledgeable about bicycles, I am more of a car guy than anything (1984 Chevette project car and 1991 Acura Integra driver) but I recently got back into cycling after a trip to Japan and seeing how worthwhile it is to cycle over there. I went exploring around on an old 1999 Infinity (Costco brand "mountain" bike) when I got home and found it just as easy and quick to get downtown and to the university (if not easier, parking sucks at both places) on that old thing. But being old, a box store bicycle, and being abused without any sort of maintenance over the past decade, it is having trouble shifting, the full suspension is getting soft, and the brakes are pretty worn. Not to mention, even with my good leg strength, it is extremely slow and heavy (weighs somewhere in the high thirties at least, if not 40's), I have managed to get it to go around a good 20 mph tops on flat ground, but probably because I only weigh 120-125 lbs and I am 5'6". The bike's looks are enough of a theft deterrent that I could leave it out in the middle of the road, with a sign around it saying "STEAL ME!" and no one would take it lol (I'll show a picture later if anyone wants to see).
Okay, backstory out of the way. I have been looking at a few hybrids and test drove some, finding Trek and Gary Fisher to have all round good handling, speed, comfort and looks as well. I tested a 2009 Trek FX 7.3 today and an '09 Gary Fisher Wingra. Now the title says Monona, which is the upgrade from the Wingra, they are essentially the same in other words, but I didn't see any there at the time and the assistant helping me said all their models are on the floor currently (having a sale). The Monona and the 7.3 FX seem to have similar components as the 7.3, the same MSRP (though the price is higher here in Canada, $639 in the US, they want $749 here, though the sale price is $699, that could probably be whittled down some more). Though I don't know the differences between the components. I'll list the specs for both from the catalogs:
Gary Fisher Monona
Frameset
Sizes SM (15.5") | MD (17.5") | LG (19") | XL (21") | XXL (22.5")
Frame Gold Series aluminum
Fork Cromoly straight blade w/CLIX
Drivetrain
Shifters Shimano Alivio, 8spd
Front Derailleur Shimano C102
Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore
Cassette SRAM PG830, 11-28T, 8spd
Wheels
Wheels Alloy front hub/Shimano RM60 rear hub, Bontrager Nebula rims, 32h
Tires Bontrager Satellite Plus 700x32c, 60 TPI
Components
Crank Set Shimano M443, 48/36/26, Octalink
Saddle Bontrager Select City
Seatpost Bontrager SSR
Handlebar Bontrager SSR Riser, 25mm rise, 6d backsweep
Stem Bontrager SSR, 10d
Pedals Nylon body, alloy cage
Headset Aheadset Slimstak, semi-cartridge bearings, sealed
Brakeset Avid SD-3, Avid FR-5 levers
Link: http://fisherbikes.com/bike/model/monona
Trek 7.3 FX
Frameset
Sizes 15, 17.5, 20, 22.5, 25"
Frame FX Alpha Black Aluminum
Fork FX Alloy w/tapered wall thickness, straight blades, Clix dropouts
Wheels
Wheels Alloy front hub, Shimano RM30 rear hub; Bontrager Nebula, alloy 32-hole rims
Tires Bontrager Race Lite Hard-Case, 700x32c
Drivetrain
Shifters Shimano EF60 trigger, 8 speed
Front Derailleur Shimano M191
Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore
Crank Shimano M361 48/38/28 w/chainguard
Cassette Shimano HG40 11-32, 8 speed
Pedals Nylon body w/alloy cage
Components
Saddle Bontrager H1
Seat Post Bontrager Nebula
Handlebars Bontrager SSR, 25mm rise
Stem Bontrager SSR, 10 degree
Headset Aheadset Slimstak w/semi-cartridge bearings, sealed
Brakeset Avid SD-3 w/Shimano EF60 levers
Link: http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/bike_path/fx/73fx/ - That's the 2010 model, but they are essentially the same, just that the one I tested was red.
And the Gary Fisher Wingra, just for comparisons-sake.
Frameset
Sizes SM (15.5") | MD (17.5") | LG (19") | XL (21") | XXL (22.5")
Frame Gold Series aluminum
Fork Cromoly straight blade w/CLIX
Drivetrain
Shifters Shimano EF50, 8spd
Front Derailleur Shimano C102
Rear Derailleur Shimano Acera
Cassette SRAM PG830 11-28T, 8spd
Wheels
Wheels Alloy front hub/Shimano RM30 rear hub, Matrix 750 rims, 32h
Tires Bontrager Satellite Plus 700x32c, 60 TPI
Components
Crank Set Shimano M361, 48/38/28
Saddle Bontrager Select City
Seatpost Bontrager SSR
Handlebar Bontrager SSR Riser, 25mm rise, 6d backsweep
Stem Bontrager Approved, 15d
Pedals Nylon body, alloy cage
Headset Aheadset Slimstak, semi-cartridge bearings, sealed
Brakeset Tektro V, Shimano EF50 levers
Link: http://fisherbikes.com/bike/model/wingra
Like I said earlier, I tested the Wingra and the 7.3, but not the Monona itself. I found the Wingra to have a very smooth ride, it was comfortable, it shifted cleanly and was nice and quiet. The particular 7.3 FX I tested though glided like it was on air, handled extremely well, but the shifter was kind of stiff, and something made a clicking noise while pedaling. Could someone tell me, is this normal, or an issue that could be resolved with some fine-tuning (is it something I should be wary about?). I like the Trek 7.3 FX, it looks nice, it's very light and it handles like a dream, though that hard seat is uncomfortable (I'd swap it for the one on the Wingra if I could), but the last one they have at the LBS raises my eyebrow. The tires look like somebody has been using the bike outside too (the LBS has an indoor track for testing), and it makes me think that it has been the showroom beater for some time now.
I would be happy with either bike, I just do not know which has the better components for the money. The 7.3 FX and the Monona are the same price as far as I know. Could somebody help me?
Okay, backstory out of the way. I have been looking at a few hybrids and test drove some, finding Trek and Gary Fisher to have all round good handling, speed, comfort and looks as well. I tested a 2009 Trek FX 7.3 today and an '09 Gary Fisher Wingra. Now the title says Monona, which is the upgrade from the Wingra, they are essentially the same in other words, but I didn't see any there at the time and the assistant helping me said all their models are on the floor currently (having a sale). The Monona and the 7.3 FX seem to have similar components as the 7.3, the same MSRP (though the price is higher here in Canada, $639 in the US, they want $749 here, though the sale price is $699, that could probably be whittled down some more). Though I don't know the differences between the components. I'll list the specs for both from the catalogs:
Gary Fisher Monona
Frameset
Sizes SM (15.5") | MD (17.5") | LG (19") | XL (21") | XXL (22.5")
Frame Gold Series aluminum
Fork Cromoly straight blade w/CLIX
Drivetrain
Shifters Shimano Alivio, 8spd
Front Derailleur Shimano C102
Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore
Cassette SRAM PG830, 11-28T, 8spd
Wheels
Wheels Alloy front hub/Shimano RM60 rear hub, Bontrager Nebula rims, 32h
Tires Bontrager Satellite Plus 700x32c, 60 TPI
Components
Crank Set Shimano M443, 48/36/26, Octalink
Saddle Bontrager Select City
Seatpost Bontrager SSR
Handlebar Bontrager SSR Riser, 25mm rise, 6d backsweep
Stem Bontrager SSR, 10d
Pedals Nylon body, alloy cage
Headset Aheadset Slimstak, semi-cartridge bearings, sealed
Brakeset Avid SD-3, Avid FR-5 levers
Link: http://fisherbikes.com/bike/model/monona
Trek 7.3 FX
Frameset
Sizes 15, 17.5, 20, 22.5, 25"
Frame FX Alpha Black Aluminum
Fork FX Alloy w/tapered wall thickness, straight blades, Clix dropouts
Wheels
Wheels Alloy front hub, Shimano RM30 rear hub; Bontrager Nebula, alloy 32-hole rims
Tires Bontrager Race Lite Hard-Case, 700x32c
Drivetrain
Shifters Shimano EF60 trigger, 8 speed
Front Derailleur Shimano M191
Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore
Crank Shimano M361 48/38/28 w/chainguard
Cassette Shimano HG40 11-32, 8 speed
Pedals Nylon body w/alloy cage
Components
Saddle Bontrager H1
Seat Post Bontrager Nebula
Handlebars Bontrager SSR, 25mm rise
Stem Bontrager SSR, 10 degree
Headset Aheadset Slimstak w/semi-cartridge bearings, sealed
Brakeset Avid SD-3 w/Shimano EF60 levers
Link: http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/bike_path/fx/73fx/ - That's the 2010 model, but they are essentially the same, just that the one I tested was red.
And the Gary Fisher Wingra, just for comparisons-sake.
Frameset
Sizes SM (15.5") | MD (17.5") | LG (19") | XL (21") | XXL (22.5")
Frame Gold Series aluminum
Fork Cromoly straight blade w/CLIX
Drivetrain
Shifters Shimano EF50, 8spd
Front Derailleur Shimano C102
Rear Derailleur Shimano Acera
Cassette SRAM PG830 11-28T, 8spd
Wheels
Wheels Alloy front hub/Shimano RM30 rear hub, Matrix 750 rims, 32h
Tires Bontrager Satellite Plus 700x32c, 60 TPI
Components
Crank Set Shimano M361, 48/38/28
Saddle Bontrager Select City
Seatpost Bontrager SSR
Handlebar Bontrager SSR Riser, 25mm rise, 6d backsweep
Stem Bontrager Approved, 15d
Pedals Nylon body, alloy cage
Headset Aheadset Slimstak, semi-cartridge bearings, sealed
Brakeset Tektro V, Shimano EF50 levers
Link: http://fisherbikes.com/bike/model/wingra
Like I said earlier, I tested the Wingra and the 7.3, but not the Monona itself. I found the Wingra to have a very smooth ride, it was comfortable, it shifted cleanly and was nice and quiet. The particular 7.3 FX I tested though glided like it was on air, handled extremely well, but the shifter was kind of stiff, and something made a clicking noise while pedaling. Could someone tell me, is this normal, or an issue that could be resolved with some fine-tuning (is it something I should be wary about?). I like the Trek 7.3 FX, it looks nice, it's very light and it handles like a dream, though that hard seat is uncomfortable (I'd swap it for the one on the Wingra if I could), but the last one they have at the LBS raises my eyebrow. The tires look like somebody has been using the bike outside too (the LBS has an indoor track for testing), and it makes me think that it has been the showroom beater for some time now.
I would be happy with either bike, I just do not know which has the better components for the money. The 7.3 FX and the Monona are the same price as far as I know. Could somebody help me?
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