Great Lakes - State Lawmaker runs light -- hits cyclist [video]

http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/56665072.html

Clearly, the cyclist is fault . . . :rolleyes:

Of course. Would the dumbass have stayed off the bike and watch some senseless reality show at home like every good citizen, nothing would have happened. :roflmao2:

I'm clearly pro cyclist, however, despite the bus blocking his view, the rider anticipated that light turning green and went into that intersection at speed. Was that a wise move for an experienced cyclist?

It annoys me that the last thing they end that with is that a witness claims it was the bicyclist's fault. Wow.

I know that most accidents can reaonably be prevented and perhaps that's what they meant--if he was looking both ways at or as he approached the intersection quickly he could have seen any cars, as a precaution--especially since the light had recently changed and his speed was already reasonably up there, being a bike. However, the bus probably blocked his vision a good amount. This is where it's better to be safe than sorry. Also from my perspective, I know it feels good to be riding in the city and get some momentum and catching green lights but still. Still the driver's fault. The light was red.

Does the light not being as visible or being closer to ground level have anything to do with such lights being run? Or is it mainly that it's not consistently a busy intersection with traffic coming from the way the biker was coming from.

Catastrophes are always a culmination of a series of failures.

Driver runs light.
Bike enters intersection at (unsafe?) speed.
Bus blocks both rider and driver's view.

I'm clearly pro cyclist, however, despite the bus blocking his view, the rider anticipated that light turning green and went into that intersection at speed. Was that a wise move for an experienced cyclist?
The light had been green for nearly 3 seconds. I hardly see that as a reason to blame the victim. In this case, the blame starts and ends with the motorist.

It annoys me that the last thing they end that with is that a witness claims it was the bicyclist's fault. Wow.

Damn it!!!!!! I tuned out when they started talking about red light cameras and never finished the video. My attempt a troll-baiting the A&S guys (after Kimbercop's thread) fails miserably when, to my surprise, someone ACTUALLY DID BLAME THE CYCLIST! DOH! :crash: :crash: :crash:

What you don't see is the motorist most likely talking/texting on his phone...perhaps they will look at his phone records, although there appears to be no need, he is obviously at fault and was cited.

The scariest part of this isn't the motorist, it's the "witness". Here we have a person who presumably saw the SUV run a red light, smoke a cyclist who has the right of way, and he STILL thinks the cyclist is to blame. Sad to see something like that happen, and people not even learn anything from it. Good thing the camera caught the truth or who knows if he would have even been cited.

On a side note, any bets that "witness" looks like the lovechild of Kid Rock and Janet Reno?

Wow, the camera tells the story, dumbass "witness" doesn't have a clue.

As someone who bikes through that intersection EVERY DAY, I have a couple of points:

It is a pretty steepish downhill to the light from Webster (the street of the bus and bike), with a long lead. So, while the bus needs a little shove to get going from a stop, a bike which was behind the bus and still moving would have good momentum. So if he was coming from the top of the hill of course he is going to beat the bus through the green light.

There WAS at least 2 seconds of green before we saw the car.

I don't know if Rep. Clark goes that way every day, but from his angle, that light defaults to red (motion detector) as the downhill from which the bike and bus was coming (Webster) is a two lane one way escape route from the Capitol Square.

And FWIW, if you notice the light was yellow and the bus actually stopped. Dollars to doughnuts with no camera in the bus the bus would have accelerated through the yellow.