Classic and Vintage Bicycles: What's it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries - 1991 Miyata LT1000 Restore

Forgot to take any before pics, but I got some afterwards. It was pretty nasty when I got it. What would be a fair price for it?

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Probably needs to go to the valuation thread....

Gotcha. Yah, this was less about valuation and more just about posting a cool Miyata.

Nice job cleaning it up. It probably won't fetch the prices of the earlier 1000's, though it's just as competent a touring machine. The small size might also hurt the value a bit, but maybe not.

Even though it's a '91, it still has a lugged frame and fork, which is a plus. Deore DX is very nice stuff, right up there with XT of the era. Unfortunately, most people don't know what DX is, so it's more of a value to the buyer. I'd have a tough time giving that bike up.

In the event you aren't aware of this:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_whtVpXkKwlQ/R2CXNzQprOI/AAAAAAAAAjU/c4GJGOAed1c/s1600-h/img278.jpg

Thanks. Funny thing is that I was just at that page checking it out and then measuring it up for sizing. I would have a tough time giving it up b/c it is in great shape, but it's just too small for me. My friend gave it to me because it was rotting in the basement and he knew I'd fix it up and give it a good home.

It probably won't fetch the prices of the earlier 1000's, though it's just as competent a touring machine. The small size might also hurt the value a bit, but maybe not.

Samll bikes demand a premium, its hard to say what a high end small bike will see but lower priced bikes can bring $50 more than a comparable 54-58cm.

I'd rather have a newer 1000 model because they're so refined, they truely got better with age. 'LT' models have the same features and durability as the earlier non-LT models but they're several pounds lighter. LT = luxury touring bike not to be confused with light duty.

It's a 54, so not that small. I'm actually impressed with how light it is with the racks on etc.

i just wanted to post my cool little miyata. 46cm.

Weight of 1981 Touring 1000 = 27.0 lbs.
Weight of 1986 Touring 1000 = 26.6 lbs.
Weight of 1989 Touring 1000LT = 26.6 lbs.


http://www.miyatacatalogs.com/2007/12/miyata-catalog-1990-100-year-special.html

I see you are selling it:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140344200741

Weight of 1981 Touring 1000 = 27.0 lbs.
Weight of 1986 Touring 1000 = 26.6 lbs.
Weight of 1989 Touring 1000LT = 26.6 lbs.


http://www.miyatacatalogs.com/2007/12/miyata-catalog-1990-100-year-special.html

3 different animals there.....




I see you are selling it:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140344200741

Hey, at least he was up front with us from the get go!! I'd like to see the OP get as much as he can.

Only problem OP will have selling on ebay is the lack of feedback. He has a total of 7 feedbacks, and only one feedback on an item sold (in 2005)... If I was to bid on the item, I would need to be able to do local pickup. And I cannot see getting a credible packing job out of a bike shop and ship the bike perhaps to the West Coast for $75.

But he is in a big enough market that he should get some good local bids.

Only problem OP will have selling on ebay is the lack of feedback. He has a total of 7 feedbacks, and only one feedback on an item sold (in 2005)... If I was to bid on the item, I would need to be able to do local pickup. And I cannot see getting a credible packing job out of a bike shop and ship the bike perhaps to the West Coast for $75.

But he is in a big enough market that he should get some good local bids.

I'm less inclined to agree because I've seen some bikes go for very good money from sellers with less feedback!! Every seller starts somewhere!!


He is taking a hit on packing and shiping but then again maybe he knows that. It could be a good strategy as anything more than $75 will turn away prespective bidders.

I'm less inclined to agree because I've seen some bikes go for very good money from sellers with less feedback!! Every seller starts somewhere!!


He is taking a hit on packing and shiping but then again maybe he knows that. It could be a good strategy as anything more than $75 will turn away prespective bidders.

Yup, I'm aware that I will be taking a hit on packing and shipping, but I also will be doing the packing myself since I work in a bike shop and have the materials at my disposal. I wish I could hang onto it, but it's too small for me and doesn't make any sense.

Yup, just starting to sell on ebay and so don't have much of a background. A friend offered to sell it for me because he's sold 3 bikes on it, but I felt better selling it myself because it is in my possession.

i just wanted to post my cool little miyata. 46cm.

Nice, I love the way they do the seatstay lugs on the Miyatas (if you can really call them lugs).

[QUOTE=miamijim;9622428]3 different animals there.....


What animals were you talking about here? According to the catalog specs all models were within 0.4 lbs. of each other.

"I'd rather have a newer 1000 model because they're so refined, they truely got better with age. 'LT' models have the same features and durability as the earlier non-LT models but they're several pounds lighter. LT = luxury touring bike not to be confused with light duty."

[QUOTE=miamijim;9622428]3 different animals there.....


What animals were you talking about here? According to the catalog specs all models were within 0.4 lbs. of each other.

"I'd rather have a newer 1000 model because they're so refined, they truely got better with age. 'LT' models have the same features and durability as the earlier non-LT models but they're several pounds lighter. LT = luxury touring bike not to be confused with light duty."


They 1000 model evolved very quickly in the late 80's and early 90's. Although the specs appear to be similar the '86 model is very different than a '92 model.

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They 1000 model evolved very quickly in the late 80's and early 90's. Although the specs appear to be similar the '86 model is very different than a '92 model.



Which year models weighed "several pounds lighter" than the 26.6 lbs of the 1986 or the 1989? That would put them at about 23-24 lbs. for the LT. Is that right? The catalogs quit listing weight in 1989/90.

This Bikepedia page shows 27.0 lbs for the 1993 LT.

http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/BikeSpecs.aspx?Year=1993&Brand=Miyata&Model=1000LT&Type=bike

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Which year models weighed "several pounds lighter" than the 26.6 lbs of the 1986 or the 1989? That would put them at about 23-24 lbs. for the LT. Is that right? The catalogs quit listing weight in 1989/90.

This Bikepedia page shows 27.0 lbs for the 1993 LT.

http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/BikeSpecs.aspx?Year=1993&Brand=Miyata&Model=1000LT&Type=bike

I simply quoted Miyatas literature and to be very honest with you, there isnt a member on this forum whos worked on and rebuilt more 1000 models than myself. You seem to have your opinion, which your entitled to, set in fast dry concrete. There's really no point in continuing this dialog.

Just trying to learn and get the straight scoop, Jim. I don't doubt your claims at all
about the number of bikes you've worked on.

Specs are not a matter of opinion. As far as I can tell from Miyata literature, all the 1000 and 1000 LT
models from early '80s to early '90s weighed pretty much the same, between 26.6 - 27 lbs.

Please direct us to your reference you cite otherwise.

Best,

J


[QUOTE=afilado;9634797]

I simply quoted Miyatas literature and to be very honest with you, there isnt a member on this forum whos worked on and rebuilt more 1000 models than myself. You seem to have your opinion, which your entitled to, set in fast dry concrete. There's really no point in continuing this dialog.