Foo - Tolkien Estate settles with New Line

The long running contentious dispute has been settled (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090908/wl_uk_afp/entertainmentusbritainfilmtolkien). The Hobbit film can continue production.

The road goes ever on and on.

I don't doubt the Tolkien people, New Line pissed Peter Jackson off by making HUUUUGE profits of LOTR, then "forgetting" to pay his people.

hollyweird is a business just like everything else, the music and film execs are not exactly known for their generosity to their artists

PJ isn't even directing this one. I'm boycotting theater release on principle.

PJ isn't even directing this one.

I didn't realize that. Sez he's 'writer and executive producer':

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Jackson#The_Hobbit

(also sez they're turning the Hobbit into 2 movies, I guess like the last Harry Potter)

PJ isn't even directing this one. I'm boycotting theater release on principle.

What principle? Are you trying to bring Foo Idiocy into your personal life? Why?

Thanks PCad for the nice news. I had missed that one. Will look forward to going to movie as soon as it opens. Would like to see PJ direct it, but we'll have to wait and see. New Line did a nice job with effects in LOTR.

What principle? Are you trying to bring Foo Idiocy into your personal life? Why?

Don't remember all the exact details, but there were lawsuits going on for years about PJ not getting royalties from the movies he was promised. That was part of the original hold up on The Hobbit. Then, they removed him as director hoping they could get things going with PJ out of the way.

That was the story a few years ago....I haven't kept up with it. I see from IMDB, though, that PJ still isn't directing. Yeah, he wrote the screen play, but he wrote that back when LOTR was still going on, or soon after.

PJ isn't even directing this one. I'm boycotting theater release on principle.

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Don't remember all the exact details, but there were lawsuits going on for years about PJ not getting royalties from the movies he was promised. That was part of the original hold up on The Hobbit. Then, they removed him as director hoping they could get things going with PJ out of the way.

That was the story a few years ago....I haven't kept up with it. I see from IMDB, though, that PJ still isn't directing. Yeah, he wrote the screen play, but he wrote that back when LOTR was still going on, or soon after.

Jackson is intimately involved in the Hobbit production, he picked the director.

Jackson is intimately involved in the Hobbit production, he picked the director.

I haven't kept up with it in a while....when it was going on a few years ago it was nasty and PJ was getting screwed.

I'll look in to it and if that's the case, I feel better about it.

I'll look in to it and if that's the case, I feel better about it.

Oh, what a relief for the rest of us.

Oh, what a relief for the rest of us.

I should hope so. I know you foosters can't make a move without my opinion.

I'm tired of hearing WWKTD?

I should hope so. I know you foosters can't make a move without my opinion.

I'm tired of hearing WWKTD?

...then Foosters doing the exact opposite. :innocent:

...then Foosters doing the exact opposite. :innocent:

Fair enough....they wouldn't be the first to use that method. :thumb:

I hear my team mate gsteinb is playing an angry dwarf in the new film.

it was so silly how the lord of the rings movies spawned all those weird fans.

i remember having to read the books and the hobbit in school and that sure was a painful experience. it was worse than reading shakespeare as a 7 year old. so painful.

i remember having to read the books and the hobbit in school and that sure was a painful experience. it was worse than reading shakespeare as a 7 year old. so painful.

You have no poetry in your soul. No imagination. :(

it was so silly how the lord of the rings movies spawned all those weird fans.

i remember having to read the books and the hobbit in school and that sure was a painful experience. it was worse than reading shakespeare as a 7 year old. so painful.
I read The Hobbit as a kid and barely made it. I started Lord of the Rings as an adult and couldn't get through the first page.

So, I agree. Agree about the fans, too.

Without LOTR, I would never have read "Bored of the Rings" and it's description of the Ballhog -

...As Goodgulf stepped onto the bridge the passage echoed with an ominous dribble, dribble, and a great crowd of narcs burst forth. In their midst was a towering dark shadow too terrible to describe. In it's hand it held a huge black globe and on its chest was written in cruel runes, "Villanova."

"Aiyee," shouted Legolam, "A ballhog!"

it was so silly how the lord of the rings movies spawned all those weird fans.

i remember having to read the books and the hobbit in school and that sure was a painful experience. it was worse than reading shakespeare as a 7 year old. so painful.

I did not even know that Willie was writing at age 7.

'Tis but thy arse that is my enemy;
Thou art thyself, though not a Montague.
What's Montague? it is not tally whacker, nor meat and two veg,
Nor naughty bits, nor twig and berries, nor any other part
Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
What's in a name? that which we call a fart
By any other name would smell as sweet;

You have no poetry in your soul. No imagination. :(

+1000000000000

I first read it at the age of about 12 and it is what started me on my love for fantasy novels/stories.


There is a damn good reason it was named by many literary societies as the "most important piece of literature of the 20th century".

Tolkien RULES you troglodytes.

The One Ring Rules, you Hobbit.

stupid lord of the ring fans. nearly as bad as the rocky horror fans.

stupid lord of the ring fans. nearly as bad as the rocky horror fans.

You are a total disgrace to Mother England.

and another thing. harry potter...why?

when has is ever been cool for grown men and women to read a children's book on public transport? all these weirdos need a labotomy.

and another thing. harry potter...why?

when has is ever been cool for grown men and women to read a children's book on public transport? all these weirdos need a labotomy.

i've had to take foreign visitors to tourist sites and do they want to go to the national gallery? tower of london? windsor castle?

no. they want to visit that stupid train platform. oy vey!

stupid lord of the ring fans. nearly as bad as the rocky horror fans.

I was stupid before I read Tolkien, Heinlein, Hemingway or Fitzgerald. Now I am stupid and entertained.

I was stupid before I read Tolkien, Heinlein, Hemingway or Fitzgerald. Now I am stupid and entertained.

But not as stupid as those that haven't read them.

We taught my oldest daughter to read with Tolkien. We started by reading to her then letting her try a paragraph then two, etc each night at bedtime. She is now 13 and has a verbal IQ of 157. :thumb:

But not as stupid as those that haven't read them.

We taught my oldest daughter to read with Tolkien. We started by reading to her then letting her try a paragraph then two, etc each night at bedtime. She is now 13 and has a verbal IQ of 157. :thumb:

smart mouthed kids...........;):thumb:

It is true that Peter Jackson is not directing this. However, Guillermo del Toro is which is frickin awesome. He is the one who wrote and directed Pan's Labyrinth. If you have not seen this film then you need to go and see it.

I am not displeased at all with Guillermo del Toro taking over this project from Peter Jackson.

and another thing. harry potter...why?


Anybody who mentions H. Potter books in the same breath as Tolkien is an imbecile. I read the first two Potter books. I thought they sucked. Hard. The huge success of those Potter books is understandable and baffling at the same time. The movies are even worse. Total snoozers.

It's supposedly two movies - 'The Hobbit' and a movie that fills in the time span between the end of the Hobbit story and the beginning of the Lord of the Rings - 60 years or so of Middle Earth history. I've read conflicting versions about whether it's one film or two actually, but if it is indeed the latter, it will be fascinating to see the story line they cook up for the film.

If they're even close to the quality of those Jackson trilogy films, it will be a treat. I read Tolkien when I was a kid, never thought anybody would ever make a meaningful film version, when the opening frames of 'Fellowship' unfolded for me with Kate Blanchett's narration it just blew me away, grabbed me, and never let go. By far the best scifi/fantasy genre films ever made. Nothing else is even close. And remarkably faithful to the spirit of the books in my view. Far exceeded any expectation I ever had. Great script, casting, effects, production design, locations, etc, etc. Just epic, and in the best sense of the word.

Totally inappropriate and NSFW...but funny.

YouTube - Clerks 2 Star Wars vs. Lord of the Rings

LOTR movies were good, but Viggo Mortenson was weak as Aragorn. No charisma or presence. Sean Bean (cast as Boromir) would have been better. Then for Boromir, cast some more like Gerard Butler (Leonidas in 300).

And while the visuals were excellent, and Cate Blanchett was stunning, can any sci fi/fantasy movie beat Wrath of Khan? When Spock dies, everybody cries.

LOTR movies were good, but Viggo Mortenson was weak as Aragorn. No charisma or presence. Sean Bean (cast as Boromir) would have been better. Then for Boromir, cast some more like Gerard Butler (Leonidas in 300).

And while the visuals were excellent, and Cate Blanchett was stunning, can any sci fi/fantasy movie beat Wrath of Khan? When Spock dies, everybody cries.

You are an Epic Idiot. Who will play you in the film version? I'm thinking Will Ferrell.

scifi / fantasy genre sucks. what is this need to escape to another world. this one's great.

scifi / fantasy genre sucks. what is this need to escape to another world. this one's great.

Shhhh....quit talking and just keep drinking (http://someonehastosayit.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/kool-aid.gif).

scifi / fantasy genre sucks. what is this need to escape to another world. this one's great.

Hooligan loser.

If they're even close to the quality of those Jackson trilogy films, it will be a treat. I read Tolkien when I was a kid, never thought anybody would ever make a meaningful film version, when the opening frames of 'Fellowship' unfolded for me with Kate Blanchett's narration it just blew me away, grabbed me, and never let go. By far the best scifi/fantasy genre films ever made. Nothing else is even close. And remarkably faithful to the spirit of the books in my view. Far exceeded any expectation I ever had. Great script, casting, effects, production design, locations, etc, etc. Just epic, and in the best sense of the word.

+1

Considering the attention span of the average movie-goer... and the limited amount of seat time that could be committed to screen time.... a brilliant adaption. They would have had to make it 6 films to really be "true" to the book.... not really practical, however.

chick fil a

If they're even close to the quality of those Jackson trilogy films, it will be a treat. I read Tolkien when I was a kid, never thought anybody would ever make a meaningful film version, when the opening frames of 'Fellowship' unfolded for me with Kate Blanchett's narration it just blew me away, grabbed me, and never let go. By far the best scifi/fantasy genre films ever made. Nothing else is even close. And remarkably faithful to the spirit of the books in my view. Far exceeded any expectation I ever had. Great script, casting, effects, production design, locations, etc, etc. Just epic, and in the best sense of the word.

Pcad is that you? I think that is, far and away, the most profound thing you've ever posted.

Not that I've read all of your posts. Not enough hours in the day or week.

I read LOTR when I was in Jr. High back in the 70s. Have been entranced since.

Thank God they left that pansy T. Bombadil out of the film.

Couldn't stand the books...but I somehow slogged my way through them.

Couldn't stand the movies...but I somehow glued my *** to the seat through them.

I doubt I'll see this one.

The movies only grossed $2.9 billion. They're hoping for better results with the two Hobbit flicks.

You are an Epic Idiot. Who will play you in the film version? I'm thinking Will Ferrell.

Did your mail order commemorative sword not come today?

Mortenson's Aragorn was a thin and wooden performance. Sean Bean, or the actor who played Faramir, did far better jobs.

Thank God they left that pansy T. Bombadil out of the film.

+1 Although the barrow downs scene would've been interesting.