Road Cycling - Trek 5.9 Madone Or Cdale Six13?

i hear lots say the trek sux and the six13 rules, ur opinion?

I've seen the Six13 and although it is a great bike, I don't know how well the frame will hold up after being ridden a couple years. The material the frame is made out of sounds paper thin when you tap on it. Before I consider one, I would want to wait and see how they actually hold up long term.

Trek 5900SL!

G'day,

depends what you want it for. If you're not racing you would be crazy to consider either of these options. If weight is any issue, the 6-13 is lighter. In OZ the Madone comes as a Bike (ie you don't get any choice on the components) The 6-13 can be purchased just as a frame & specced however you like. Both have life time warranties in Oz.....both are gunna cost ya plenty. The 5.9 is 18mths old model, the 6-13 is newer. Personally I would (& did), look beyond either of these 2 & ended up with the sweetest ride ever Looks KG486,

cheers,

Hitchy

i'd take eh six13 because its jut so light.... hehe :)

wait till august for the madone 5.9 sl...about $6500.00 usd i believe

the six13 is spectacular...it will be my next bike

i have a soft spot for Treks ...having owned several in the 80s...i am not a huge fan of their carbon bikes after roadtesting them (the 5200)

Geez...Madone or Six13. What's your next dilemma? DB9 or Gallardo? :)

I used to have these "I wish" debates with my mates in high school.....but back then it was the Systeme-U Gitane Reynolds 753 or the Kas Vitus aluminium. [sigh...]

oh those were sweeet bikes, ahhhhhhhh Syetme-U Gitane Reynolds 753 was the bees knees. The KAS Vitus was just to flexy and had an annoying habit of coming loose at the glue joints. Now the Alan solved that by screwing the tubes into the lugs..

I'd go for the 613 simply because Cannondale has a better reputation for building solid bikes.
I did'nt like the feel of the Madone at all. In fact a Time VX-R Special is a much better feeling bike and also looks better IMO.

take the 613.

oh those were sweeet bikes, ahhhhhhhh Syetme-U Gitane Reynolds 753 was the bees knees. The KAS Vitus was just to flexy and had an annoying habit of coming loose at the glue joints. Now the Alan solved that by screwing the tubes into the lugs..

I'd go for the 613 simply because Cannondale has a better reputation for building solid bikes.
I did'nt like the feel of the Madone at all. In fact a Time VX-R Special is a much better feeling bike and also looks better IMO.

take the 613.


Time VX-R....now yer farken talking!!!!

BTW, did you see the review of Voeckler's on cyclingnews.com today? Magnificent.

Six13, KG486, VX-R - all better choices than the Madone. The Postal boys have to ride them, you don't. Lance can ride anything he wants from Trek...and it ain't a Madone.

You have the luxury of buying a properly balanced, "pinnacle" bike for the price so buy one instead, you'll thank yourself everytime you ride.

Forget reputation, the Six13 just rocks. Flat out kicks arse.

The LOOK KG486 is a beautiful ride too, a bit heavy but you don't feel it at all. So well sorted out.

My favorites are the Pinarellos and Eddy Merckx. damn, they know how to make a perfect bike.

My favorites are the Pinarellos and Eddy Merckx. damn, they know how to make a perfect bike.

eww, not a fan of pinarellos. I think they are ugly. that and de rosas. I'd pick somthing else italian, like one of those gorgoeous pigorettis. now thats a sexy bike. but were getting off topic. we were talking american.

I would get a 5900 over a madone, just because everything I have heard about the madone says it is a harsh riding beast, and the 6-13 just doesn't impress me much. I mean, carbon with aluminum lugs? didn't trek do that in like 1991?

the six13 is an impressive looking frame, but it's not a wise investment for the casual cyclist or amateur.

though i haven't seen it myself, i've been told that the caad7 user's manual states the frame is designed to give "dedicated athlete a good racing frame for 1 to 2 seasons".

it's clear that this bike is not going to last 10 years (or even 5).

anyway, it's said that there are three factors which apply to bicycle components: light weight, affordability and durability and that any given component can only have two of those. it seems the six13 probably only has one, though.

Give it up with the "if you get a Cannondale it will crumple under you" crap, it won't, they make great bikes. Also the six 13 and CAAD 7 bikes are totally different, what does the CAAD 7 manual have to do with the six 13?



though i haven't seen it myself

Of course you haven't, no one here who ripps C'dale ever has any first hand knowledge. When I got my CAAD 5 it was supposed to give in under my 200 lbs, well it hasn't it has kicked ass. It was the only bike I could afford that didn't feel like a wet noodle, if IF it does crack I will get another.

Give it up with the "if you get a Cannondale it will crumple under you" crap, it won't, they make great bikes

Agreed, I hear from some people over and over about "Crack n Fail" etc etc, but they haven't owned one ... then I meet people all the time with old Cannondales that are still soldiering on ... we decided to get the R1000 for my fiance and it has been superb so far.

i hear lots say the trek sux and the six13 rules, ur opinion?

This like asking who would you rather sleep with Halle Berry or Paris Hilton.... :)

I'll hate you if you get either one. :D

eww, not a fan of pinarellos. I think they are ugly. that and de rosas. I'd pick somthing else italian, like one of those gorgoeous pigorettis. now thats a sexy bike. but were getting off topic. we were talking american.

I would get a 5900 over a madone, just because everything I have heard about the madone says it is a harsh riding beast, and the 6-13 just doesn't impress me much. I mean, carbon with aluminum lugs? didn't trek do that in like 1991?

Um yeah, Pinarellos and DeRosas are not famous on looks alone. They are brilliant riding bikes. If you buy a bike to stare at, get whatever pleases your eye. If you are riding and racing, you can't do much better than Pinarello/Opera and DeRosa. You can do worse for the same money but not much better.

carbon and aluminum lugs...like LOOK's entire lineup(sans 486)? Like Opera Leonardo? Like the incredible DeRosa King? Jeez, ride the bike and make a judgement not the other way around.

This like asking who would you rather sleep with Halle Berry or Paris Hilton.... :)

I'll hate you if you get either one. :D

You mean Halle Berry (Six13) or Devine Brown (Madone)

Of course you haven't, no one here who ripps C'dale ever has any first hand knowledge. When I got my CAAD 5 it was supposed to give in under my 200 lbs, well it hasn't it has kicked ass. It was the only bike I could afford that didn't feel like a wet noodle, if IF it does crack I will get another.

i meant i hadn't seen the user's manual myself. i've ridden a number of the CAAD bikes and found them to be plesantly fast and responsive, if not all that comfortable bikes. i've also handled and inspected the six13 in person, though i have not ridden it. it appears to be beautifully made, but i cannot imagine it holding up.

i meant i hadn't seen the user's manual myself. i've ridden a number of the CAAD bikes and found them to be plesantly fast and responsive, if not all that comfortable bikes. i've also handled and inspected the six13 in person, though i have not ridden it. it appears to be beautifully made, but i cannot imagine it holding up.

Well if imagination is limiting you then perhaps this will help;

a mate of mine is sponsored by Cannondale's importers in RSA. Two weeks ago while out training for the coming season he was descending a mountain pass and suffered a bit of brain fade when a really beautiful brunette in a MercSLK drovepast. Problem is he missed his braking point for the corner and at 80km/hr you should'nt do that..
any way after a series of earth /skies and a armco barrier he broke his leg but his 6-13 is fine.

Trek has advanced in the technology they put into their bikes WAY more than any other manufacturar (I THINK). So i would definatley go with Trek.
-my next bike is the 5900 SL

C-Dale

You mean Halle Berry (Six13) or Devine Brown (Madone)

Whose Devine Brown?

Whose Devine Brown?

booty-call hooker that Hugh Grant got busted with

Trek has advanced in the technology they put into their bikes WAY more than any other manufacturar (I THINK). So i would definatley go with Trek.
-my next bike is the 5900 SL

Cannondale has just as much R&D, if not more. LOOK, Fondriest, Dediaccaci, Columbus, Easton, Merckx...there is alot of development going on beyond what Trek has to offer.

booty-call hooker that Hugh Grant got busted with

Better than the transvestite Eddy Murphy was "giving a ride home" :D

This is my first post to the forum. Glad I found you people. I just had to reply to this thread.

My advice: test-ride, test-ride, test-ride! I'm in my mid-thirties and recently back on the road after many years off during which time I started and am running my own business.

The Madone is a FINE machine, critcized (I believe) because of the strange niche it seems to ocuppy. When I set out to buy my new ride I was BLOWN away by the current collection of bikes to choose from. MAN they have come a long way! Find THE best fit and get what makes you confident. It's all too easy to fall for cosmetics and gee-whiz factor. After riding full-suspension MTB's as my re-introduction to cycling, I knew I would not be happy with an overly stiff ride. So, I just started looking at Ti and carbon ONLY. I did ride some steel and aluminium to quench my curiosity, but kept coming back for the comfort (and "special" stiffness) of all-carbon bikes.

Trust me,....I rode a lot of bikes and logged some serious test-ride miles to the point of having to offer to pay for tire wear (*guilt*). No LBS took my offer. Cool.

For me, the 5.9 made me realize why I wanted a road bike again--speed, efficiency and pure fun. I'm not competing mind you. The 5.9 surpassed all other bikes as a perfectly balanced ride--stiff climber, STABLE descender, light and comfy. I too have heard the mixed reviews but went on the same advice I offered above. SOLD!

About me: 192 lbs, 6'2.5", cruise at 18-26mph, ride 20-40 miles several times a week, used to be a competitive runner, and used to ride some serious miles in my teens-twenties--I know a little about the world of the roadie. Hope it helped. The six13 is sweeeet--I looked at it too. The 5.9 fit and makes me confident. The '05 5.9 sl should be something to look at.

Cheers and be safe.