Foo - Windows 7 for $29.99???? (not Spam!)

Home or Professional version. I just placed an order and they're looking up my Student ID :D
It's an upgrade version though.

www.win741.com

edit: Ahaha I just reread the title and it sounds like a spam thread...ah well good thing I'm more of a mac guy than a windows guy :p

yah, I was about to kill this as spam. . .
we might want to change the title, I'm open to suggestions.

Marty

yah, I was about to kill this as spam. . .
we might want to change the title, I'm open to suggestions.

Marty

Maybe remove the "attention students" and add a bunch of question marks to the end?

...ah well good thing I'm more of a mac guy than a windows guy :p

all the more reason to splat the thread. :innocent:

How about Student Edition Windows 7 for $29.99?

My copy of Windows 7 Pro was free through the IT department at my school!!!

Check with MSDNAA (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/academic/default.aspx) and see what your school has to offer if you are a student.

My copy of Windows 7 Pro was free through the IT department at my school!!!

Check with MSDNAA (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/academic/default.aspx) and see what your school has to offer if you are a student.

+100. I don't remember when was the last time I payed for windows. I have been in school for too long. :twitchy:

UD

How is Win7? Based on how badly Vista flopped, I'm going to stay the hell away from this one as long as possible. MS has said they will support XP through 2014 if I remember correctly.

Vista's flop wasn't because Vista is a crappy os. It's becuase Microsoft did some big changes to the kernel, but 3rd party manufactures released half-assed drivers. So when people's peripheals didn't work because of the half-assed drivers, they blamed the os. Vista is a decent os. There are problems with the os, but it is a pretty decent os.

Windows 7 is going to be the next XP. It is a fantastic os. It has the features of Vista with the stability and lightness of Xp. Windows 7 can run on a p3 with 256megs of ram.

Vista's flop wasn't because Vista is a crappy os. It's becuase Microsoft did some big changes to the kernel, but 3rd party manufactures released half-assed drivers. So when people's peripheals didn't work because of the half-assed drivers, they blamed the os. Vista is a decent os. There are problems with the os, but it is a pretty decent os.

Windows 7 is going to be the next XP. It is a fantastic os. It has the features of Vista with the stability and lightness of Xp. Windows 7 can run on a p3 with 256megs of ram.

That sounds like a good thing. I'll give it some time though before upgrading. Or rebuilding, which would probably be a better idea.

I think I can get Windows 7 for free through my school. Too bad I don't have a functioning computer to install it on.

Vista's flop wasn't because Vista is a crappy os. It's becuase Microsoft did some big changes to the kernel, but 3rd party manufactures released half-assed drivers. So when people's peripheals didn't work because of the half-assed drivers, they blamed the os. Vista is a decent os. There are problems with the os, but it is a pretty decent os.

Windows 7 is going to be the next XP. It is a fantastic os. It has the features of Vista with the stability and lightness of Xp. Windows 7 can run on a p3 with 256megs of ram.

Sounds good, but....

1. Are the 3rd parties going to be on-board from Day 1 to prevent what happened to Vista? Or did MS simply make a last minute tweak without telling anyone?

2. MS is big on legacy. Every new OS has been backward compatible with previous ones, right? But Win7 might break that tradition. Vista requires a minimum of 1GB of RAM to function while the new Win7 won't need nowhere that amount.

Note that I'm not in IT or CS and that the last CS class I took was back in 1996.

From what I've heard from others who have been using the Windows 7 RC for a few months, 7 is very good; the usual recommendation is to skip Vista entirely and ditch XP for 7 when it comes out. I have the RC myself but haven't gotten around to moving my windows stuff over from XP yet, so I've barely used it myself.

Windows 7 is going to be the next XP.An ugly, bloated, warmed-over rehash of the previous version of the OS, with just enough new "features" to make it hair-pullingly irritating to use, a feeling which is only moderately dulled once the next version proves to be even worse?

Gee whiz, where do I sign?

Snow Leopard is nice and snappy and only cost $30.00 too.

So far I'm liking 7 (I say this as I am working on the XP side of my Win7/XP dual boot box, but that is only because the machine is set to auto-boot into XP if I leave it alone). Far and above an improvement over Vista (Windows ME is about the only OS I'd consider Vista superior to however). It will be the next Windows XP, it may take a little time to get most people off XP, but 7 will be the next OS we don't want to get away from.

Vista's flop wasn't because Vista is a crappy os. It's becuase Microsoft did some big changes to the kernel, but 3rd party manufactures released half-assed drivers. So when people's peripheals didn't work because of the half-assed drivers, they blamed the os. Vista is a decent os. There are problems with the os, but it is a pretty decent os.

Windows 7 is going to be the next XP. It is a fantastic os. It has the features of Vista with the stability and lightness of Xp. Windows 7 can run on a p3 with 256megs of ram.

+1

What's frightening is how coherent Hickey was in posting that. :twitchy:

I run both XP & Vista systems, I'll take Vista over XP anytime. 7 is what Vista was suppose to be

I have vista set up very nicely. Can't see a reason to "upgrade".

That sounds like a good thing. I'll give it some time though before upgrading. Or rebuilding, which would probably be a better idea.

From what I've read, if you're "upgrading" from XP to Win7, there's no in-place upgrading... you have to backup, reformat, install Win7, reinstall your apps, and restore your data.

An ugly, bloated, warmed-over rehash of the previous version of the OS, with just enough new "features" to make it hair-pullingly irritating to use, a feeling which is only moderately dulled once the next version proves to be even worse?

Gee whiz, where do I sign?

Have you used 7 yet?

Sounds good, but....

1. Are the 3rd parties going to be on-board from Day 1 to prevent what happened to Vista? Or did MS simply make a last minute tweak without telling anyone?

2. MS is big on legacy. Every new OS has been backward compatible with previous ones, right? But Win7 might break that tradition. Vista requires a minimum of 1GB of RAM to function while the new Win7 won't need nowhere that amount.

Note that I'm not in IT or CS and that the last CS class I took was back in 1996.

Given the number of drivers already out for 7, I'd say the 3rd parties are very much onboard for giving driver support.

Snow Leopard is nice and snappy and only cost $30.00 too.

$30 is kinda high for a service pack :P

Win 7's solid. I've been running RTM since August. Has yet to crash on 3 computers and haven't needed third party drivers for any. Everything was detected properly at install.

Have you used 7 yet?Irrelevant, considering I was talking about XP. Good job missing the point, though.

I preordered. We'll see how this works out. I run XP right now, and I ordered Win 7 Professional.

Irrelevant, considering I was talking about XP. Good job missing the point, though.

Meh, it's every Microsoft OS that's a rehash of the previous edition anyway, all the way back to QDOS.

Maybe it's the huge loss of market share from doing that for so many years, but they really appear to have listened to what people want with Win 7. I know you're happy with your free OSes, but if you have the opportunity, try it. I was of the same opinion as you and stuck with XP, even after buying Vista Ultimate for a machine capable of running it. Now I'm looking forward to running Win 7.

Vista's flop wasn't because Vista is a crappy os. It's becuase Microsoft did some big changes to the kernel, but 3rd party manufactures released half-assed drivers. So when people's peripheals didn't work because of the half-assed drivers, they blamed the os. Vista is a decent os. There are problems with the os, but it is a pretty decent os.

Windows 7 is going to be the next XP. It is a fantastic os. It has the features of Vista with the stability and lightness of Xp. Windows 7 can run on a p3 with 256megs of ram.

It was not that the developers dropped the ball, MS did not release the OS code to the 3rd party developers until they released Vista to manufacture. That only gave the 3rd parties about 5 weeks to fully write and test the drivers and apps.

XP felt like an especially egregious money grab to me. Take a perfectly good OS like Windows 2000 (I actually liked 2000 for the most part), then staple on a bunch of graphical la-ti-da processor/RAM-sinks, interface annoyances, and general bloat, then slap a Fisher Price UI over it all, and call it new? Barf.

Hence "zomg 7 is gunna be as good as xp!!!!11`!!!" being a particularly humourous comparison.



So as computer hardware advances, the OS should not make use of that perfectly good hardware?

So as computer hardware advances, the OS should not make use of that perfectly good hardware?

I don't think that was his underlying message.

I've been using Windows 7 for a while now, since it was made available to MSDN/Technet people in August. I can sum it up in one phrase: It is as good as Vista was bad.

Main reasons:

All 64 bit Vista drivers work.
BitLocker To Go is nice for allowing backups to an external hard disk.
Boots significantly faster than Vista. It is a matter of seconds.
If an app doesn't work in compatibility mode, you can fire up VirtualPC and XP Mode (both downloadable from MS), and run your XP only apps in a virtual machine. For example, I have an old 16 bit app I use for some things. It runs happily in XP Mode.
You can create Homegroups, which is sort of a mini domain, but allows a group of PCs to share printers, disks, stream files, etc. In fact, you can have a domain and a homegroup.

Overall definitely worth the upgrade from Vista. XP, you will need to make the choice by the hardware you have. Generally any boxes made in 2007 or newer should run Windows 7 decently.

XP felt like an especially egregious money grab to me. Take a perfectly good OS like Windows 2000 (I actually liked 2000 for the most part), then staple on a bunch of graphical la-ti-da processor/RAM-sinks, interface annoyances, and general bloat, then slap a Fisher Price UI over it all, and call it new? Barf.

Hence "zomg 7 is gunna be as good as xp!!!!11`!!!" being a particularly humourous comparison.


Win2K had serious compatibility issues with a lot of hardware and a lot of software, most notably games and graphics hardware. The basic kernel was the same for 2k and XP, you're correct, but 2k was a commercial OS, and XP was supposed to be the everyman's version of that OS. So it makes sense that there would be little fundamental change in the architecture between 2k and XP - there was never supposed to be.

+100. I don't remember when was the last time I payed for windows. I have been in school for too long. :twitchy:

UD

+100 more. The keys are VL (volume licensed), so they can be used a bajillion times and Microsoft won't care.

BTW: Windows 7 freaking rocks. Why?

- They finally integrated wireless networking completely.
- Windows Aero is actually really, really stable and doesn't leak memory (at least most of the time; it flops sometimes, but usually b/c of video card issues)
- Everything is much faster than I remember it being on Vista and/or XP on the same hardware.
- The new user interface takes some time getting used to, but is actually quite intuitive and will work really well when touchscreens gain some momentum.
- Native support for solid state disk drives, which isn't in XP and, I believe, is half-baked under Vista.
- I'd never thought I'd say it, but Internet Explorer 8 under Protected Mode is better than Firefox! (Except while browsing Slashdot, which is fine, since their code is broken anyway.)

All in all, I think it's a pretty substantial upgrade from Vista (though not a revolutionary one) and is a big step in the right direction.

From what I've read, if you're "upgrading" from XP to Win7, there's no in-place upgrading... you have to backup, reformat, install Win7, reinstall your apps, and restore your data.

One of the reasons why I always create separate partitions for system files and multimedia/data/whatever. Nuke the system partition, install OS, done.

Crispy010,

If you would like to read what other users have said about their positive experience with Windows 7, you may want to check out the following sites: http://tinyurl.com/5tfr8 and http://tinyurl.com/nsm3s

Jessica
Microsoft Windows Client Team

Crispy010,

If you would like to read what other users have said about their positive experience with Windows 7, you may want to check out the following sites: http://tinyurl.com/5tfr8 and http://tinyurl.com/nsm3s

Jessica
Microsoft Windows Client Team


Everybody run, we've been invaded! :D

EDIT:

I'll retort with this: http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/win7_simple.asp

EDIT 2:

I don't suppose you're here 'cause you're into cycling? ;)

I'm not trying to say that Windows 7 is a bad OS; I'll reserve that criticism for the truly deserving works of art known as Windows ME and Windows Vista. What I fail to see is any compelling reason to switch away from XP. XP is a stable, mature, predictable OS that has a proven track record. It requires very low system resources by modern OS standards (I once convinced it to run on an old Intel 486), and does everything I want in an OS.

But more importantly, I know where everything is, I know all the little tweaks and tricks to get things just the way I like them. I played with Vista for a while, and the most frustrating thing was that everything was in a different place. Every. Single. Thing. It drove me nuts.

I'm sure Win7 is better than Vista. It may even be better than XP in some ways. But for me, the marginal benefit that Win7 may provide pales in comparison to the cost in terms of money, computing power needed, and time it would take me to learn a new OS with the same intimacy with which I know XP. Why would I put a new OS on my computer that is garaunteed to be slower than my current OS, and that would force me to re-learn everything?

I wish Microsoft luck with this new release of Windows. Maybe, in a few years when it's got a history, I'll make the switch. Until then, I'll stick with what I know. Call me a luddite if you must, but at least I'm happy.