Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - New Custom Sanner lugged frame.

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xavierjaguilar
09-19-09, 03:44 PM
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By xavierjaguilar (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/xavierjaguilar), shot with Canon PowerShot SD750 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=Canon+PowerShot+SD750&make=Canon) at 2009-09-19

**More pictures and component info is all on my velospace (http://velospace.org/node/23342) if anyone's interested.
Tim Sanner of Sanner Cycles (http://www.sannercycles.com/Home.htm) (out of Palo Alto, CA) built this AWESOME custom frame for me. I wanted to post about it because Tim was amazing to work with and I'd like to see his frames get popular. Without you coming to my house and just riding the bike yourself, I can't really describe how incredible this bike feels other than to say the handling is EXACTLY how I wanted it: the perfect balance between responsive and smooth. Every part of the bike fits me like a glove, it's incredible, I'll never go non-custom again. It was completely worth the money. The Sanner prices are some of the best I've found for a full custom frame & fork. Depending on options, $800 or so gets you a custom frame built to your exact height, reach, etc in any powder coat color in their inventory. It's $1000 if you want lugged construction (I couldn't resist).

For a long time I was riding the IRO Mark V which is a great starting frame, but I wanted to trade up. I decided I wanted to buy a frame made in the USA rather than a mass-produced Korean or Taiwanese frame like IRO, Mercier, Windsor, Soma, and a lot of the other fixed/ss bike manufacturers make. Pretty much, my only available option was to save some cash and get a custom frame, but I was worried that I didn't know enough about bike geometry to know what I wanted in a frame. Tim was really knowledgeable and friendly when I had questions, you don't have to know a lot about geometry to have Tim make you a custom frame. He asked me how I wanted the bike to ride/handle and you can be as hands-on or hands-off as you like. I asked Tim a lot of questions and read a lot online about geometry, and now I feel like a know a ton about how it works. We worked out every single last detail of geometry that could be tweaked, down to the millimeter. Literally. And I love the result, the frame's perfect. So Check out the Sanner Cycles website some time, and consider them if you're thinking about getting a custom frame.

(I also wrote a testimonial about my experience for the Sanner Cycles website here (http://www.sannercycles.com/Testis.htm) if you're interested)


ThisJauntyGent
09-19-09, 04:29 PM
Interesting seatpost, is it fluted or something? Almost looks dented in that picture

EDIT: Just checked out your testimonial, noticed you mentioned the seatpost as a Miche Supertype. Looks awesome! Digging this bike

PedallingATX
09-19-09, 04:30 PM
wow. I love this bike. This is one of the coolest frames I have seen in a while. Price doesn't sound that bad for custom, either, though I don't really see the point of custom frames. Also, what's your gear ratio? Do you not find yourself spinning out a lot?

seatpost is a miche supertype.


steveymcdubs
09-19-09, 05:34 PM
It's a Miche Supertype seatpost. Nice bike.

dayvan cowboy
09-19-09, 05:42 PM
those prices are really tempting.

xavierjaguilar
09-19-09, 07:12 PM
What's your gear ratio? Do you not find yourself spinning out a lot?

I'm running 39:17. Kinda spinny down hills but I prefer lower gearing. Also, after 5 years of not being interested, I finally jumped on the bandwagon: I wanna learn wheelies and backwards circles (yeah, I'm a tool, I know) and low gearing helps for doing those.

adriano
09-20-09, 08:16 AM
im geared only slightly higher than you. enjoy your new frame!

PedallingATX
09-20-09, 12:42 PM
are you using a dingle cog or something? Why does it look like the teeth are sticking out through the chain on your rear cog? Anyone else see that?

xavierjaguilar
09-20-09, 01:31 PM
are you using a dingle cog or something? Why does it look like the teeth are sticking out through the chain on your rear cog? Anyone else see that?

Yeah it's Surly's dingle cog, 17/20T.

TejanoTrackie
09-20-09, 02:12 PM
Your bike looks awesome! One of the cleanest builds I've seen in a long while. It's good to know about Sanner, their prices seem extremely reasonable. I paid $460 to have a custom lugged steel frame made for me, but that was 26 years ago - today that would be about $1000.

B:H Pusher
09-20-09, 04:27 PM
i dont like the seat stays, and the read dropouts. but looks like a fun ride.

JohnDThompson
09-20-09, 05:53 PM
The frame looks nice, and well made, but those dropouts are ugly.

dookie
09-21-09, 05:14 PM
i dont like the seat stays...

fastback? good enough for cinelli.

agreed, the track ends look a bit kludgy. still, overall very crisp/clean. need brakes. supertype rawks!

TejanoTrackie
09-21-09, 06:08 PM
...the track ends look a bit kludgy.

Actually, if I had a steel FG custom built, my choice for rear dropouts would be Paul:

http://www.paulcomp.com/dropouts.html

SoreFeet
09-21-09, 06:47 PM
I like the frame but I don't like the Sanner fork designs. I'd like to see a less mass produced looking fork. I know it's not easy building frames at a good profit but a unique fork crown or artistic design would be nice. I think the fork looks like mass produced tange fork.

I saw an Ed Litton frame with a very nicely tapered fork end. I wish this detail would not be overlooked when building modern steel frames.

I spoke with Sanner at the Oakland bike swap. He was a very nice person to talk to. I wish him good luck. His road frames are priced reasonably. His track frames are priced nicely too. I wish a mass produced investment cast lug design could make an artistic statement while not breaking the bank.

JohnDThompson
09-21-09, 09:00 PM
Actually, if I had a steel FG custom built, my choice for rear dropouts would be Paul:

http://www.paulcomp.com/dropouts.html

My favorite is still the Zeus 2000 "Pista" but they're only slightly easier to find than hen's teeth:

http://os2.dhs.org/~john/zeus-2000-pista1.jpg

AidanJ
09-22-09, 07:44 PM
yeah they messed up the fast back seat stay and got the wrong angled track ends.

beeftech
09-22-09, 09:17 PM
Actually, if I had a steel FG custom built, my choice for rear dropouts would be Paul:

http://www.paulcomp.com/dropouts.html

Paul stuff is so classy...
I just picked up the chain keeper (http://www.paulcomp.com/chainkeeper.html) for my 1x7.
For how small and simple of item it is it is exceptionally well designed, and crazy light.
Thinking about drillium'ing it up just for ****s and giggles...
/plug

sjauch
09-23-09, 08:28 AM
Does your foot hit the chainstay on the drive side?

xavierjaguilar
09-23-09, 11:41 AM
Does your foot hit the chainstay on the drive side?

No, I've never had a problem with that. Some toe overlap with the front tire every now and again, but that's pretty routine for a bike this size with this geometry. I've never heard of chainstay overlap, does that happen?

adriano
09-23-09, 12:32 PM
fastback? good enough for cinelli.

that means so much.