I noticed Cherly is there at the beginning of many stages, right when I imagine he is trying to warm up and get focused, and probably a bit nervous. I think she would be a distraction if I were in his position. I'd probably be all bi*chy, then she'd get bi*chy back at me. At least that's the way ithings go with me and my girlfriend. :D



(Incidentally, I don't see the big deal with Cheryl. Everyone says, "oh, she's so hot..." but I don't think she is spectacularly good looking -- especially in the ranks of millionaire pro athletes.)

Now, she is certainly not the classic beauty of some of the other girls at the TDF...

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/babes/tdf-miss12.jpg

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/babes/fans/tdf04-orbea.jpg

But being over 40, she ain't bad!

He didn't seem to mind, as he spent a few good minutes licking her tonsils before he got on the trainer....

:D

Koffee

He didn't seem to mind, as he spent a few good minutes licking her tonsils before he got on the trainer....

:D

Koffee

Oh God! I didn't need to know that ... :p

He didn't seem to mind, as he spent a few good minutes licking her tonsils before he got on the trainer....
Koffee

That seems so disrespectful of his ex-wife and kids. Can you imagine having to answer a childs question: "Mommy, what is Daddy doing to that other girl on TV?". There are a lot of things about LA not to like, but he sure can ride a bike.

Now, she is certainly not the classic beauty of some of the other girls at the TDF...



You're right, I forgot to mention my observation that he seems to sure take his liberties with the podium girls! The other podium standers will give a very sterile, non-contact kiss about 6 inches from their cheeks. Lance plants it right on their cheeks, and they get all giddy looking. I wonder if the podium girls put out for top TDF riders...

Agreed about LA, I think he has amazing talent on the bike off the bike I don't like the guy. And man, I'd hate to have anyone I know bar trainers etc about me as I got ready to go.

He's divorced from Kristen, get over it.
I'm sure given his fastidiousness about warm ups
preparation etc. if it bothered him Cheryl would not be
there.
Podium girls get thrown off the tour for fraternization
with the riders, ask Hincapies fiance.
(btw, she's pregnant and they're not married, where's the
indignation about that? oh yeah I forgot, he's not lance).

Marty

Oh, c'mon, Lotek. Hincampie and Armstrong are not the same situation. And is Hincampie dropping his pregnant girlfriend for some fameous singer? Is he playing kissy kissy behind the trailer while the camera rolls, cuts away to give results of another rider, cuts back to him only to see they're still playing kissy kissy with little regards as to who can see this being telecast?

Besides, I think we're all pretty much joshin' about it all. But it is a pretty valid question- someone asked me the very same question this afternoon (about an hour after we got off the phone) and made a similar observation about her following Lance around. No biggie. He's still leading, right?

Koffee

Koffee,

The tonsil tango discussion yah, I can get that its all tongue in cheek (pun intended)
but there is a definite dissaproval of Lance and what he does. Lots of
I don't like the guy, but he can ride a bike well.
I agree, Georgie and Lance are not in the same situation, but the fact of
the matter is no other rider has his personal life dissected the way that
lance does.
Thats all, and honestly, I'm pretty tired of the holier than thou attitude when
it comes to lance and no one else

just my .02 worth

Marty

If I were dating a famous rock star or athlete, I'd play kissy face in front of the cameras. Who cares? There are cameras ALL over the TDF; everything is caught on tape, especially intimate moments. I don't see it as a big deal.

Koffee,

The tonsil tango discussion yah, I can get that its all tongue in cheek (pun intended)
but there is a definite dissaproval of Lance and what he does. Lots of
I don't like the guy, but he can ride a bike well.
I agree, Georgie and Lance are not in the same situation, but the fact of
the matter is no other rider has his personal life dissected the way that
lance does.
Thats all, and honestly, I'm pretty tired of the holier than thou attitude when
it comes to lance and no one else

just my .02 worth

Marty

Tell you what. I feel that way about anyone. So if Hincampie is seen dumping his girlfriend and kid, and then goes chasing the podium girls around the support car, let me know so I can start up a new thread about Hincampie... tongue in cheek, of course... ;) (pun intended)

Koffee

I'm just glad I'm a nobody. Famous people have to have every little thing about their life analized and scrutinized....come on he's human and as such is not perfect.
And I agree, if it bothered him she would not be there.

So if Hincampie is seen dumping his girlfriend and kid, and then goes chasing the podium girls around the support car,

Koffee

You are making it sound like it must be Armstrong's fault for the divorce. "He left his wife and children"... do you actually know the details of their relationship?
We could just as easily be saying "Kristen left that poor man, just a few years after he nearly died of cancer, taking a fortune with her" blah blah blah. Makes no sense to me.
I don't think that any of us here know the whole story. Probably only two people do.

True, I'm making assumptions, but so are a whole lot of people, and he's not denying anything. I'm not saying anything new here, and I think based on observations, people assume a lot of things about that relationship, so that's how I base my opinions, as a lot of other people also do. If you think Kristin left the poor guy, do chime in and help us out here, and we'll just lock the thread. Until then, I think anyone is entitled to chime in on their observations. It is true- he is a public figure, and he's opened up his life to everyone, so let's not get all puzzled and confused when people react to his behavior and make observations. We've read his books, we've read through his website, we've looked at Kiki's Corner, and we've watched the Lance Chronicles. Everyone will draw conclusions. If he didn't want this, he should have kept his private life private. We don't see Kristen out in public doing very public things- she obviously knows that people can take things out of context and make all kinds of assumptions and conclusions. That's pretty darn smart.

Koffee

True, I'm making assumptions, but so are a whole lot of people, and he's not denying anything.

Do you think people say things like "you're a bad husband/father" to his face? Why would he want to bring up the topic in an interview?

If you think Kristin left the poor guy, do chime in and help us out here, and we'll just lock the thread.

I don't. My point was that saying that she left the poor guy makes just as much sense. It's one thing to guess and observe, but I just think it is really lame to be calling someone a bad person without actually knowing the situation.

We don't see Kristen out in public doing very public things- she obviously knows that people can take things out of context and make all kinds of assumptions and conclusions. That's pretty darn smart.

Koffee

I don't see Kristen winning the Tour de France. Maybe she is out in public doing very public things. She is not a famous athlete. Do you really think that OLN would show video clips of Kristen making out with a guy at a resturant in the US? "Here is what Armstrong's ex-wife has been up to in the states this spring." I doubt it.

Regardless, he's a public figure, he opens his life to the public, and it should be no surprise that anyone speculates or talks about his private life, since it's not very private, and he makes no attempt to hide it. So, to each his own, and the speculation will always be there.

Koffee

Really, I couldn't give any less of a carp about Lance's personal life...he's an athlete, not a casanova, so lets get back with the sports talk :p

Lance's friends are just "icky", don't you think? Robin Williams and Cheryl crow are not on my "people I would like to get to know" list.

calling a marriage quits after so little time is not what I would expect from a man of his dedication and commitment. However, having experienced many of his same highs and lows and seeing how it effects the mind, I can look past the apparently poor relationship decision.

Tell you what. I feel that way about anyone. So if Hincampie is seen dumping his girlfriend and kid, and then goes chasing the podium girls around the support car, let me know so I can start up a new thread about Hincampie... tongue in cheek, of course... ;) (pun intended)

Koffee

You are assuming that the divorce was all Lance's fault.......... Takes 2 to tango, or fight.

Podium girls get thrown off the tour for fraternization
with the riders, ask Hincapies fiance.

Marty

Cool! I had no idea -- this was the first I have heard about the romance (my cycling "career" is still young and bourgeoning).

Here is a link:

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=1935

I'd be happier right now as Hincapie with that blong podium girl than Lance with a 40-something rocker. :rolleyes:

I gotta work on developing this cycling career of mine.

Christophe Moreau married a TdF podium girl.

Sheryl's not all that hot IMHO. What's worse though is that she's THERE all the time. Heck, I love my wife, but sometimes I don't want her THERE. Lance has no choice. It's like she says "OK Honey. See you at the end. Ride well." If they have a spat or something, you think he'll deliberately throw the stage just to have a few more minutes of peace? OTOH, if things are going along well, he could be like "Follow along and gaze in adoration at my legs and ass" :D

Lance's friends are just "icky", don't you think? Robin Williams and Cheryl crow are not on my "people I would like to get to know" list.

He's also friends with President Bush. Just thought I'd throw that in the get some of your blood boiling some more.

(Incidentally, I don't see the big deal with Cheryl. Everyone says, "oh, she's so hot..." but I don't think she is spectacularly good looking -- especially in the ranks of millionaire pro athletes.)

http://images.interscope.com/992/apr23scbandcrop.jpg

Cheryl may not be stunningly gorgeous but she has REAL musical talent and flair as opposed to the innumerable lip-synching, surgically enhanced bimbettes out there.

watch out! i said that about her and all the sudden i'm satan (that would be cool!).

Because the way you put it was crude. Fine she isn't your type...doesn't mean she isn't hot. In person she is stunning and I might add in great shape and an incredible writer beyond the pop. Fine you don't like her but I am not gonna start posting the stars I think are mutts. There are enough of them (imagine any skinny irratating blond with 0 personality and 0 skills beyond attempting to look good) ;)...and she actually....rides...

Just curious...why do stunning millionaire stars have to date stunning beautiful women...thats seems rather vain to me. Lance seems like a chill cool guy...how would he ever put up with most of the stars of the world. I can barely stand to see them on tv let alone consider trying to communicate with them.

As a side...whoever that girl is posted above...ummm...side by side...I think Cheryl is hotter on a purely vain scale. I don't like the facial structure at all...;)

http://img41.exs.cx/img41/4787/sheryl-crow-010.jpg

http://img41.exs.cx/img41/3214/SherylCrow012.jpg

http://img41.exs.cx/img41/3374/sheryl-crow-02.jpg

http://img41.exs.cx/img41/5566/SherylCrow023.jpg

Oh, c'mon, Lotek. Hincampie and Armstrong are not the same situation. And is Hincampie dropping his pregnant girlfriend for some fameous singer? Is he playing kissy kissy behind the trailer while the camera rolls, cuts away to give results of another rider, cuts back to him only to see they're still playing kissy kissy with little regards as to who can see this being telecast?

Besides, I think we're all pretty much joshin' about it all. But it is a pretty valid question- someone asked me the very same question this afternoon (about an hour after we got off the phone) and made a similar observation about her following Lance around. No biggie. He's still leading, right?

Koffee

I don't think you or anyone else for that matter has the right to question Lance's display of affection for Cheryl.
It's their relationship, and they can express it where ever they feel they want. Kissing in public is not immoral.

Perhaps you and other like you should stop watching soap opera's and focus on your own life.

PS:

I'd like all of you to post piccies of your partners and then we'll see who is hot or not.
I'm willing to bet most of your partners are fat , ugly and stupid

It's their relationship, and they can express it where ever they feel they want. Kissing in public is not immoral.


Couldnt agree more.. i cant believe all this fuss to due some kissing!!

you're kidding me? Cheryl Crow is fugly, well at least in my eyes, not my tyoe at all, but then again who am I to say, if LA finds her sizzling hot then good for him, that's all it matters.
Beauty is in the eye of the "beer" holder
Corsaire ;)

I don't think you or anyone else for that matter has the right to question Lance's display of affection for Cheryl.
It's their relationship, and they can express it where ever they feel they want. Kissing in public is not immoral.

Perhaps you and other like you should stop watching soap opera's and focus on your own life.


And perhaps you should get off your own high horse. Sheesh, they're freakin celebs, for godssake! Everyone is bound to talk about it, and they obviously are (the fact that people are participating in it, including yourself should say something about who's watching the soaps), and obviously, they don't care. And please point out to me where I said kissing in public was immoral- I don't see it. But I do read his books, I make an interpretation from it on how he views the role of women in his life, and I watch the way he conducts himself on television. He might be your god and you might think he's all golden in your eyes, but the man has flaws, he definitely publicizes certain aspects of his life, and when people comment, he makes no statements otherwise. I don't care if he does comment or not, because it's his life, but as long as he doesn't, speculation will continue.

Again, as I said before, he's a PUBLIC FIGURE. So is Sheryl. So when they go out in public and show acts of affection towards each other, people talk. This is no different from when Lance decided to associate with Dr. Ferrari- people speculated, and had he not intervened and said something, people would have continued to speculate about his assocation. If he didn't want people to speculate, he would say something. Being a public figure has it's price- your private life becomes public, and people comment. That's the way it goes, and to act as though it doesn't means someone is either completely obtuse or living in a hole in the ground.

Koffee

you're kidding me? Cheryl Crow is fugly, well at least in my eyes, not my tyoe at all, but then again who am I to say, if LA finds her sizzling hot then good for him, that's all it matters.
Beauty is in the eye of the "beer" holder
Corsaire ;)

Well Lance is no Brad Pitt.

I think they make a good couple.

Why do famous sports figures date celebs? I dunno.
Maybe because neither one is "starstruck".
I think its cool that she has take such an interest in his cycling.
If you want to get indignant at lance and cheryl doing a tonsil tango,
be outraged/indignant towards OLN for showing it, it really isn't
the viewing publics business.

Marty

Just curious...why do stunning millionaire stars have to date stunning beautiful women...thats seems rather vain to me.

Vain? How so? Do you actually have any clue as to whether wealth automatically makes someone vain?

It's quite easier for a famous person to become friends with another famous person, through things like business. Being such a public figure, it's probably hard to just casually interact with 'no name' public.

Lance's friends are just "icky", don't you think? Robin Williams and Cheryl crow are not on my "people I would like to get to know" list.



What's wrong with Robin Williams? He's an avid biker and a pretty decent guy.

Well, I don't like to kiss and tell, but what the heck...

http://www.bodog.com/images/non-sports/alias.jpg


Jennifer Garner is Hot!!!

What's wrong with Robin Williams? He's an avid biker and a pretty decent guy.

I'm sure he is. Having grown up with him (figuratively) I am sick of his "humor" as I find it incredibly annoying. Too bad this is the net, I do a pretty good impression of Williams telling bad jokes that illustrates my point.

What's wrong with Robin Williams? He's an avid biker and a pretty decent guy.

The guy from Mork and Mindy? I think he's freaking hilarious! Didn't know he rode bikes though...

Jennifer Garner. Yum. If Lance could hook up with her....

The guy from Mork and Mindy? I think he's freaking hilarious! Didn't know he rode bikes though...

No, the guy from "Happy Days". The cliché' would be "Mork from Ork" vs. "Jump the Shark" if I had it my way. :D

I've stayed away from threads like this and probably should keep staying away....

It does seem to be standard practice in the US that as soon as someone, anyone, becomes a "celeb" they have to dump current spouse and pick up a "celeb" spouse or significant other. While all of this is none of my business I do have to admit I was a bit disappointed LA decided to "fit in" with his new crowd.

Of course the only marriage I'm responsible for is my own (18th anniversary on Aug 16th, cards and or monetary gifts gratefully accepted :) ) but I'm still a bit saddened and the transition from ex-spouse to celeb girlfriend seemed awful quick.

Anyways, it is still essentially none of my business and it certainly doesn't diminish many of LA's accomplishments.

:beer:

Of course the only marriage I'm responsible for is my own (18th anniversary on Aug 16th, cards and or monetary gifts gratefully accepted :) ) but I'm still a bit saddened and the transition from ex-spouse to celeb girlfriend seemed awful quick.

Anyways, it is still essentially none of my business and it certainly doesn't diminish many of LA's accomplishments.


Potentially certain youthful death , infertility, financial ruin, and physical castration from a career ending condition may have played a roll in his hasty decision to wed. The only saving grace is that the split seems to be mutual (at least I hope so) and nobody is getting screwed over.

Congrats on 18 years, I'm hitting 10 years on the 6th. I won't get you anything if you don't get me anything....we'll save our money and spend it on our wives :D

....we'll save our money and spend it on our wives :D

Suckup :D

congrats btw

Marty

I don't think you or anyone else for that matter has the right to question Lance's display of affection for Cheryl.
It's their relationship, and they can express it where ever they feel they want. Kissing in public is not immoral.
Perhaps you and other like you should stop watching soap opera's and focus on your own life.

PS:
I'd like all of you to post piccies of your partners and then we'll see who is hot or not.
I'm willing to bet most of your partners are fat , ugly and stupid

Relax man. It's an internet forum, don't let it "get to you" like that. Personal attacks don't help you make your point.


<snip> Thats all, and honestly, I'm pretty tired of the holier than thou attitude when
it comes to lance and no one else </snip>

I will assume that my post earlier in this thread is the one you are refering to. I really don't feel like I have a holier-than-thou attitude, although I can't wait to tell my wife I've been accused of it ;) I think I'm pretty open minded about this kind of stuff, and would not have any problem with it IF he had no young children. Sorry, young kids are the reason I think he has a responsibility to do everything in his power to keep his private life private. If his ex-wife is sucking lungs in public, then she is just as guilty. It has nothing to do with who's fault the divorce is, or that their is anything wrong with showing affection in public (under "normal" circumstances), and divorce doesn't make either of them bad people. They both chose to bring children into the world, and now they have a responsibility to keep the divorce from being any worse on them than it already is. I just think that a young child could be really confused by watching his father suck face with someone other than their mother. If that's holier-than-thou, then so be it.

On the other hand, I don't know for absolute fact that LA is not trying his best to keep this stuff private. Maybe it's the media that keep surprising him at inopportune moments. So, since I don't know this I will give him the benifit of the doubt and refrain from posting about it again.

On the other hand, I don't know for absolute fact that LA is not trying his best to keep this stuff private. Maybe it's the media that keep surprising him at inopportune moments. So, since I don't know this I will give him the benifit of the doubt and refrain from posting about it again.

I came to a similiar conclusion, if not in this thread than one with a similiar bent.
I have no problem with wishing LA would keep it down "for the kids sake" I know that it
can't be easy on the kids to see something like that. What I railed against was the
"he's a great cyclist but I don't like him as a person" sentiment. Sorry, you (general you, not
specific) don't know him as a person, how can you judge him by what you read in
the media or see on the media?

Please, don't stop posting about stuff like this, whats a little disagreement amount
(cyber)friends? If we can't take it, we shouldn't be here in the first place.

pax.

Marty

^ images are above ^

Smoothie you da man (at least I presume your a man)

Yeah shes a real dawg. NOT!




Cheryl may not be stunningly gorgeous but she has REAL musical talent and flair as opposed to the innumerable lip-synching, surgically enhanced bimbettes out there.
I did'nt know she played bass I thought it was the guitar?

could we all just stop?

doping, cheryl, what will the kids think? could we start just enjoying the sport again? this is all so freaking Jerry Springer.

She also plays the flute, Im sure.........;)