Advocacy & Safety - Scariest, most depressing video ever...

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MTBLover
09-23-09, 12:43 PM
Be warned- this (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1100983246591)is really graphic. All the more reason to show it to every driver and cyclist, say annually. Apologies if previously posted!
tdreyer1
09-23-09, 02:25 PM
:eek:
All the more reason to show it to every driver and cyclist, say annually.
+1000
LesMcLuffAlot
09-23-09, 03:33 PM
This has always been a fav of mine.
YouTube - Corvette C6 Z06 fly-by
BarracksSi
09-23-09, 08:57 PM
This has always been a fav of mine.
YouTube - Corvette C6 Z06 fly-by
I had a Ford Transit diesel van topped out, foot to the floor, at 150-ish km/h (around 90 mph), just like the camera car in that vid, and I was one of the slowest on the Autobahn. There weren't any rockets like that Vette passing by when I was driving, but the typical big German sedans and station wagons were probably cruising at 240 km/h (150 mph). And, frankly, with the discipline that the other drivers displayed in basic aspects of driving such as lane control, signaling and situational awareness, I felt safer there than when I got back to DC and was coming home from the airport.
The video in the opening post, though... Talk about an illustration of the consequences of driver error and general stupidity.
dynodonn
09-23-09, 10:11 PM
I remember watching a "Modern Marvels" episode on the Autobahn, and seeing a clip about 3 men (driver, passenger, and cameraman) jammed into a Porsche at night at top speed. Here's a snapshot of their top speed.
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8608/historychannelautobahn2.jpg :eek:
JoeyBike
09-23-09, 10:29 PM
Dear Mr. Trucker,
If you are going to run over me, would you please not also skid on me, then park on me too? Pick ONE, ok!?
http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=119590&stc=1&d=1253766486
I think I might take tomorrow off from traveling.
There aren't words...can't describe what I feel..........
To be that inattentive, that stupid, that careless, that self-absorbed -- and what does it say about societies when another pedestrian can just calmly walk away from one of those, with a dead or nearly-dead person right in front of them?
Show it during driver's ed, at every licensing, and every plate renewal. No more 'mailing in' the renewals, either -- make 'em sit through that!
I've long been a bitterly cynical proponent of the thought that 'if you do something stupid, you deserve every bad thing you get' -- but how many of those people did nothing stupid or wrong, and DIED?
I'll be the first to say it...summary execution of hit & run perpetrators.
I can't get myself to watch..probably better that way
edit:.... crap.. I watched it, why'd I do that?
http://www.abc15.com/content/news/centralsouthernarizona/tucson/story/Video-shows-moment-of-impact-in-Tucson-crash-that/c9xqDiYI9kGOpoMMgM-uJA.cspx
They can add that one driver veers into oncoming lane smashes into school bus.
Chris516
09-24-09, 03:20 AM
Be warned- this (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1100983246591)is really graphic. All the more reason to show it to every driver and cyclist, say annually. Apologies if previously posted!
I liked the video and, the music. But the printed language in the video was either, Italian or, Portuguese. So I couldn't read it.
JoeyBike
09-24-09, 07:22 AM
To be that inattentive, that stupid, that careless, that self-absorbed...
I don't call them Zombies and Meanderthols for nothing.
The point this video drove home for me (now that I have slept on it) is the transiency of live. Here one instant, gone the next. Just going to work...DEAD.
You see those rear-end crashes into stopped vehicles? Another reason why on my bike I don't stop at red lights. Drunk/elderly/texting people might turn me into a "bumper sandwich". I will be more careful splitting lanes around trucks for a while tho.
Griffin2020
09-24-09, 07:40 AM
Does anyone have that video somewhere other than Facebook?
BarracksSi
09-24-09, 03:33 PM
Does anyone have that video somewhere other than Facebook?
I'm not yet finding this particular compilation on Youtube, but I've seen several of the clips before.
This one has runaway semi trucks, Arab "drifters", car drivers veering into bystanders, bicyclists and moped riders getting run over, stationary cars getting rear-ended on the highway (one clip is missing the segment where a Mustang practically deflates a big Ford Econoline-type van), jaywalking pedestrians getting drilled, "runaway" cars hitting storefronts, speeding motorcycles hitting oncoming traffic, an illegally turning SUV getting T-boned by another, etc etc., ending with a stunt motorcyclist with a helmet cam high-siding his bike and tumbling into some brush at what looks like somewhere beyond 60 mph (and, although he appears to be in pain, he might be the only person in this video that survived his accident).
CFXMarauder
09-24-09, 08:10 PM
:eek::twitchy: 1:25-1:28
BarracksSi
09-24-09, 08:16 PM
:eek::twitchy: 1:25-1:28
Yeah... he wasn't transporting a can of paint...
iareConfusE
09-24-09, 08:41 PM
Alot of the pedestrians that got hit were probably the ones at fault.... Most of them are jaywalking, or crossing when they shouldn't. They got what was coming.
Now, for the drivers who crashed because they were obviously distracted or too incompetent, they should be shot.
Ridiculous.
tadawdy
09-25-09, 12:44 AM
I'm appalled, but can't say I'm surprised. Working in customer service, you painfully learn just how inattentive, unaware, and ignorant most people are. Not that we don't all have lapses of attention, but there are many people who seem to be walking around while only minimally conscious. Very little higher brain function.
And we give these people the privilege to drive? We're asking for it.
JoeyBike
09-25-09, 06:43 AM
...there are many people who seem to be walking around while only minimally conscious. Very little higher brain function.
And we give these people the privilege to drive? We're asking for it.
AND we give these people iPhones WHILE they drive! Effing outrageous!
JoeyBike
09-25-09, 06:46 AM
Most of them are jaywalking, or crossing when they shouldn't. They got what was coming.
That's pretty harsh. Knocked to the ground and a skinned knee maybe.
I'm sure you didn't mean that in a literal sense, right? Just sayin'.
tjwarren
09-25-09, 08:45 AM
I'm sorry, but this thread should be yanked. This isn't break.com, this isn't fark.com. That video shows real people dying. Not pretend people in a movie. Those people are someone's wife, son, father, daughter, brother. And here we sit in our comfortable chairs and gasp and chuckle as they get turned into red goo.
There is something fundamentally wrong with someone who puts together a compilation video like that.
I'm sorry, but this thread should be yanked. This isn't break.com, this isn't fark.com. That video shows real people dying. Not pretend people in a movie. Those people are someone's wife, son, father, daughter, brother. And here we sit in our comfortable chairs and gasp and chuckle as they get turned into red goo.
There is something fundamentally wrong with someone who puts together a compilation video like that.
Hmmmm never seen the TV programs World's Scariest Drivers or Worlds Worst Drivers or Police Chases (may not be the actual titles)? There are a whole series of such shows on TV that highlight just how awful some motorists do drive.
Happened to notice one such show just last night on the Travel channel.
MTBLover
09-25-09, 09:24 AM
As the OP, I have to say that tj has a point. As I said in the warning, it's extremely graphic, but I probably should also have mentioned that it could induce PTSD in susceptible viewers.
I'll leave it up to the mods as to whether or not to pull the thread. That said, I don't think anyone in here has had a "chuckle" about this clip.
There is something fundamentally wrong with someone who puts together a compilation video like that.
I disagree. It has a purpose. I guarantee you that i will be driving extremely safe today on my 120 mile trek.
iareConfusE
09-25-09, 10:03 AM
That's pretty harsh. Knocked to the ground and a skinned knee maybe.
I'm sure you didn't mean that in a literal sense, right? Just sayin'.
Well, I said they got what was eventually coming, not that they deserved it. If they regularly jaywalk, or are regularly unattentive and has a wandering mind all the time, then inevitably, its going to happen; just a matter of time.
cbchess
09-25-09, 10:14 AM
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8907/puking.gif[/URL]
tjwarren
09-25-09, 12:01 PM
Hmmmm never seen the TV programs World's Scariest Drivers or Worlds Worst Drivers or Police Chases (may not be the actual titles)? There are a whole series of such shows on TV that highlight just how awful some motorists do drive.
Happened to notice one such show just last night on the Travel channel.
I disagree with you. Programs like "Worlds Scariest Drivers" or "Best Police Chases" show people driving recklessly, yes. Just like the video LesMcLuffAlot posted. They may even show people being hurt. They DON'T show people *actually being killed*.
There is a big, big difference between showing someone flying down the road for twenty minutes before they're put in handcuffs and showing someone's head being crushed by a garbage truck.
I disagree. It has a purpose. I guarantee you that i will be driving extremely safe today on my 120 mile trek.
You'll ride or drive safer because you got to watch someone thrown forty feet into the air before landing in a broken heap? THAT's what it takes to get you act safely?
Watching someone die is not entertainment. That things like this exist on the internet cannot be helped, but Bike Forums deserves better than this.
Certainly, the lives that were recklessly, graphically, and violently ended deserve better than to be bandied about on an internet message board.
MilitantPotato
09-25-09, 02:11 PM
Great, three days ago I ran into a gore website showing people who'd been killed while driving/cycling, and I was just starting to get back to feeling normal on the road. I really look forward to the day that large/fast vehicles become impractical, and the railways start out competing most truck companies again. Hopefully it's soon, without too much hardship for the transition.
daredevil
09-25-09, 02:15 PM
I disagree with you. Programs like "Worlds Scariest Drivers" or "Best Police Chases" show people driving recklessly, yes. Just like the video LesMcLuffAlot posted. They may even show people being hurt. They DON'T show people *actually being killed*.
There is a big, big difference between showing someone flying down the road for twenty minutes before they're put in handcuffs and showing someone's head being crushed by a garbage truck.
You'll ride or drive safer because you got to watch someone thrown forty feet into the air before landing in a broken heap? THAT's what it takes to get you act safely?
Watching someone die is not entertainment. That things like this exist on the internet cannot be helped, but Bike Forums deserves better than this.
Certainly, the lives that were recklessly, graphically, and violently ended deserve better than to be bandied about on an internet message board.
I haven't been paying attention to the whole thread but let me add that I know someone who is a driver ed instructor. I showed him this. He will not use it in his class. It would serve no useful purpose he says. What? That people die on the roads? Don't need to see it happening for real.
What he will use is that British PSA involving texting and driving. it shows a staged, graphic crash. That's bad enough.
BarracksSi
09-25-09, 02:20 PM
What he will use is that British PSA involving texting and driving. it shows a staged, graphic crash. That's bad enough.
Not only staged, but it also shows what the driver was actually doing that led up to the accident, even if it was part of a script. That's what's missing in many of the accidents in the OP's video.
daredevil
09-25-09, 02:23 PM
Not only staged, but it also shows what the driver was actually doing that led up to the accident, even if it was part of a script. That's what's missing in many of the accidents in the OP's video.
He also said that after showing the British ad to a class, one student left the room crying and one actually passed out.
BarracksSi
09-25-09, 02:25 PM
He also said that after showing the British ad to a class, one student left the room crying and one actually passed out.
Will he be getting the full half-hour program once it's released? In the meantime, does he also show the other preview segments that have been posted online?
daredevil
09-25-09, 02:33 PM
Will he be getting the full half-hour program once it's released? In the meantime, does he also show the other preview segments that have been posted online?
couldn't tell you....haven't discussed it. What do you know about the half hour version?
BarracksSi
09-25-09, 02:43 PM
couldn't tell you....haven't discussed it. What do you know about the half hour version?
All I know is what's been written on the Youtube post:
http://www.youtube.com/user/richardjonm
http://www.gwent.police.uk/leadnews.php?a=2172
A couple behind-the-scenes videos, showing the CGI work and the actual crash being filmed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD6bI0aCME4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5SRmYZgdZ4
You'll find a total of six clips from the story, including the long one depicting the crash and its immediate aftermath.
You'll ride or drive safer because you got to watch someone thrown forty feet into the air before landing in a broken heap? THAT's what it takes to get you act safely?
No, I already drive/ride safely, but it makes you realize how fragile life is, and that you need to be careful. And that even a moment of carelessness can cost you or someone else their life.
daredevil
09-25-09, 04:09 PM
No, I already drive/ride safely, but it makes you realize how fragile life is, and that you need to be careful. And that even a moment of carelessness can cost you or someone else their life.
but if you already drive/ride careful, it's probably because you already know how fragile life is, right?
crhilton
09-25-09, 05:10 PM
In hindsight, cars were a bad idea...
but if you already drive/ride careful, it's probably because you already know how fragile life is, right?
Well, I hardly drive at all really. I would say I am a pretty careful person, but seeing things like this makes me want to look twice when crossing a road if you know what I mean.
crhilton
09-25-09, 05:22 PM
Well, I said they got what was eventually coming, not that they deserved it. If they regularly jaywalk, or are regularly unattentive and has a wandering mind all the time, then inevitably, its going to happen; just a matter of time.
I was sort of thinking the same thing. They certainly don't deserve it, but if you do certain things there's a good chance you'll eventually be killed doing it.
Even if you're just walking around, the street is a busy and dangerous place. You have to be careful. Even before cars we had plenty of things in the street that could kill you.
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