Advocacy & Safety - New Bike PSA -- Passing From the Bike Lane

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intersection911
10-01-09, 12:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXmwTghij5s

Bike lanes provide a space just for bikes, but are often too narrow for passing safely. Be courteous and safe, take the left lane to pass a cyclist in front of you. 3-5ft of passing distance is necessary to maintain peaceful bike travel. Try to avoid the right side of the bike lane, which is more susceptible to dooring.

Bikes Riding With Bikes PSA #2 - Be Responsible! Provide a safe passing distance.

And if you missed our first one, check out "Be Kind, Don't Leave a Rider Behind"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4GPRRwfPOk

Hope these can be useful resources for your educational and advocacy work! I appreciate feedback, there are more PSAs in production!

Peace,
Steve


CornyBum
10-01-09, 03:57 AM
Cool stuff. Thanks for these. :)

The Human Car
10-01-09, 09:21 AM
I liked the hybrid passing a road bike.


randya
10-01-09, 09:22 AM
it all seems kinda dorky to me

TRaffic Jammer
10-01-09, 09:28 AM
Maybe, fix the bike on the sidewalk as opposed to a parking spot so you don't get parked on? That's three cyclists with one bumper right there, otherwise not a bad idea for a PSA, now we need car/bike interaction PSA's.

noisebeam
10-01-09, 09:49 AM
silly and if they wanted to be safer they could have both avoided the bike lane in the door zone. i especially liked how the dude with the spiffy yellow glasses at the start was waving to someone across the street oblivious to the doors he was passing.

TRaffic Jammer
10-01-09, 09:54 AM
...and not a car in sight, but I'll still ride in the door zone...talk about cycling inferiority complex

crhilton
10-01-09, 08:55 PM
So we're supposed to wear stupid sunglasses now?

randya
10-01-09, 11:29 PM
hey, stupid sunglasses are 'in' this year

bluegoatwoods
11-14-09, 07:22 AM
Okay, so they didn't get everything just right. These PSAs are still a good idea.

Similar PSAs for auto drivers (plenty of 'em, too) would be a very good idea.

gcottay
11-14-09, 11:05 AM
I too appreciate appreciate even amateurish PSA's, but agree this one needs withdrawal and revision.

dynodonn
11-14-09, 11:20 AM
...and not a car in sight, but I'll still ride in the door zone...talk about cycling inferiority complex


I noticed that as well, even if I have the devil's own wolf pack nipping at my heels, I'll still take measures in avoiding the "door prize".

dynodonn
11-14-09, 11:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXmwTghij5s

Bike lanes provide a space just for bikes, but are often too narrow for passing safely. Be courteous and safe, take the left lane to pass a cyclist in front of you. 3-5ft of passing distance is necessary to maintain peaceful bike travel. Try to avoid the right side of the bike lane, which is more susceptible to dooring.

Bikes Riding With Bikes PSA #2 - Be Responsible! Provide a safe passing distance.

And if you missed our first one, check out "Be Kind, Don't Leave a Rider Behind"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4GPRRwfPOk

Hope these can be useful resources for your educational and advocacy work! I appreciate feedback, there are more PSAs in production!

Peace,
Steve

One of the many things that I do when encountering a fellow cyclist. Just the other night, I spotted a cyclist on the side of the roadway with a disabled bike, and found that he had the situation in hand after my asking him.

I've taken the lane many times to pass a fellow cyclist, and even took a boisterous horn honking from a motorist, when I took the lane to pass two persons pushing their disabled motorcycle in an uphill bike lane.

Bekologist
11-14-09, 11:40 AM
jiminy crickets.

bike lanes striped next to parked cars aren't a deal breaker, neither is the riding in the hysterically kryptonic 'door zone' of a bikelane. the door zone is present regardless of a bikelane anytime there are parked cars directly adjacent to the travel lanes.



Quoting Andy Clarke, president, League of American Bicyclists


"Bike lanes can be striped adjacent to parking lanes and parked cars.
There are striping, signing and marking techniques that encourage and
enable cyclists to ride further away from parked cars. Bicyclists are
successfully and safely operating on urban streets even with AASHTO-
minimum recommended widths for parking, bike, and adjacent travel
lanes. This may not always be appropriate for every such street:
engineering judgment may suggest other options such as establishing
lower overall speeds and the use of shared lane arrows."

Digital_Cowboy
11-14-09, 11:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXmwTghij5s

Bike lanes provide a space just for bikes, but are often too narrow for passing safely. Be courteous and safe, take the left lane to pass a cyclist in front of you. 3-5ft of passing distance is necessary to maintain peaceful bike travel. Try to avoid the right side of the bike lane, which is more susceptible to dooring.

Bikes Riding With Bikes PSA #2 - Be Responsible! Provide a safe passing distance.

And if you missed our first one, check out "Be Kind, Don't Leave a Rider Behind"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4GPRRwfPOk

Hope these can be useful resources for your educational and advocacy work! I appreciate feedback, there are more PSAs in production!

Peace,
Steve

In the first video on more then one occasion I too have stopped and offered aid to fellow cyclists. Anything from offering a CO2 cart to reinflate a tire after the cyclist patched their tube, to citrus wipes to clean their hands after having to fix a flat on the rear. To helping a father and young daughter who's chain fell off after hitting a bump. By "breaking" the chain and easily repositioning it on the gears, instead of having the father struggle with pulling the chain out.

Generally speaking it only takes a couple of seconds to minutes to help a fellow cyclist out. And the goodwill that it engenders is worth it.

CB HI
11-14-09, 12:00 PM
jiminy crickets.

bike lanes striped next to parked cars aren't a deal breaker, neither is the riding in the hysterically kryptonic 'door zone' of a bikelane. the door zone is present regardless of a bikelane anytime there are parked cars directly adjacent to the travel lanes.



Quoting Andy Clarke, president, League of American Bicyclists


"Bike lanes can be striped adjacent to parking lanes and parked cars.
There are striping, signing and marking techniques that encourage and
enable cyclists to ride further away from parked cars. Bicyclists are
successfully and safely operating on urban streets even with AASHTO-
minimum recommended widths for parking, bike, and adjacent travel
lanes. This may not always be appropriate for every such street:
engineering judgment may suggest other options such as establishing
lower overall speeds and the use of shared lane arrows."Oh yes, the blind promotion of bike lanes, even dangerous bike lanes painted in door zones.

Bekologist
11-14-09, 12:18 PM
i don't know what part of "operating successfully and safely" you don't get but suggest you belay the 'dangerous' hysterics.

gcottay
11-14-09, 02:15 PM
jiminy crickets.

bike lanes striped next to parked cars aren't a deal breaker, neither is the riding in the hysterically kryptonic 'door zone' of a bikelane. the door zone is present regardless of a bikelane anytime there are parked cars directly adjacent to the travel lanes..[/b][/i]"

For me, lanes striped right next to parked cars are an example of inferior design, the more narrow the lane the greater the problem created. One need not be hysterical (or for that matter have a womb in the first place) to prefer designs that encourage riding beyond the reach of doors.

Wogster
11-14-09, 03:59 PM
For me, lanes striped right next to parked cars are an example of inferior design, the more narrow the lane the greater the problem created. One need not be hysterical (or for that matter have a womb in the first place) to prefer designs that encourage riding beyond the reach of doors.

The problem as always is that there is a limited amount of space in a right of way. So lets take an old road, built originally in the 1930's, the utility strip is 4' wide, sidewalk is 5' wide, the grass verge is 8' wide, lane is 16' wide, total of 33' to the centreline same on the other side, total of 1 chain (66') wide, that is the right of way.

In 1975 they wanted to add parking revenue so they eliminated the grass verge, and shaved a foot off the sidewalk and the lane to give a 15' wide lane, and an 11' wide parking strip. So we now have a 4' utility strip, a 4' wide sidewalk, an 11' wide parking area and a 15' wide lane. In 1998 they added a bike lane, restriping the road surface so we now have: A 4' utility strip, a 4' sidewalk, a 9' parking area, a 3' bike lane and a 13' wide line.
You can't eliminate the door zone without a DMZ that is 3' wide. So bike lanes end up in the door zone. Unless you make the right of way wider.

Most 4 lane roads in existence are actually built on a two lane road right of way. They of course have a 4' utility strip a 3' sidewalk a 14' outside lane and a 12' inside lane or worse 2 lanes of 13' each.

hairyman
11-14-09, 04:28 PM
You can't eliminate the door zone without a DMZ that is 3' wide. So bike lanes end up in the door zone. Unless you make the right of way wider.

If the road isn't wide enough to accommodate bike lanes then you don't add them -- it's as simple as that. Unfortunately some officials are more interested in creating certain feel-good facilities than ensuring the safety of their constituents.

GraysonPeddie
11-14-09, 05:20 PM
The first video is obvious to me, but I enjoyed the second video. I think I'll need to get an air pump and some other stuff needed to fix the bike, but I'm not sure how much it'll cost (although it will only be a simple, single speed bike with a coaster brake).

But of course, it's always nice to help others who need tires inflated properly. :)