Classic & Vintage - Frejus -- how much is it worth?

My LBS has a nice-looking Frejus that is too big for me, but is loaded up with lovely Campy Record parts (don't know the vintage, but assuming '70s). I'd be willing to buy the bike and try to sell the frame on ebay. But what is it worth? It is in great shape, 56 cm, bright blue with chrome lugs, no pitting. How much should I be willing to pay for the complete bike, and how much might I get for the frame?

Is the frame lugged? Fancy nervex type or plain? What type of frame materials? Would you include headset and bottom bracket or strip those as well?

I hate pricing questions in general; what I'd pay here in Richmond is probably far, far less than you'd pay in New York. Discussing pricing on these boards, I've found there are such wide regional variations in used bike pricing, that it's hopeless. I'd probably be able to snare such a bike for under 200$ here. Maybe under 100$. Heck, maybe 5$ if it showed up in the right place.

Do run a search on completed ebay auctions for freejus frames; this will give you at least some idea of what you'd get on ebay. But what you'll have to pay is a whole nother matter.

Is the frame lugged? Fancy nervex type or plain? What type of frame materials? Would you include headset and bottom bracket or strip those as well?

I hate pricing questions in general; what I'd pay here in Richmond is probably far, far less than you'd pay in New York. Discussing pricing on these boards, I've found there are such wide regional variations in used bike pricing, that it's hopeless. I'd probably be able to snare such a bike for under 200$ here. Maybe under 100$. Heck, maybe 5$ if it showed up in the right place.

Do run a search on completed ebay auctions for freejus frames; this will give you at least some idea of what you'd get on ebay. But what you'll have to pay is a whole nother matter.

Thanks for the suggestions. The frame is lugged, plain but chromed (def not Nervex), ChroMo steel, I forget what kind. It is a very nice looking frame, paint is almost perfect, the kind of thing I would grab in a heartbeat if it was real cheap and make into a nice old steel fixie for tooling around the city -- it just doesn't fit me. I would probably leave the BB and headset on. I want the parts for a Paramount frame I am building, and it would be handy to have a comlete set (right down to the campy leather straps on the lovely campy pedals, the straps still pliable and in fine condition.) The guy at the store asked for $1,000, perhaps thinking that because I am a woman I am an idiot. He also tried to tell me that a Frejus is "almost as good as a Masi." I offered him $200 and he laughed at me. So it may be moot.

Forget it. The guy isn't really looking to sell it, he's looking to find some sucker to overpay by $500. I love just about everything about old bikes, except for the *collectors* who think they should make a bundle reselling bikes they personally didn't pay squat for. How much *trade in* do you think the LBS guy gave the sucker who bought a new bike gave for the Frejus? 50 bucks?

Here's a site which may help:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/vrbn-a-f.html#frejus

Note that they list the price higher than I did; however, I've found I often score bikes for far less than this list, even on ebay. And especially around here, where anyone else interested in classics likes old schwinns and ballon tire 50's bikes. I haven't found any Frejus bikes, as well, but since I'm paying under 35$ for nice older (pre-85) treks and the like, I'd still go cheap.