Hybrid Bicycles - Need some serious feedback please

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bill_pfaff
10-02-09, 07:15 AM
Need some help please. I’m fairly new to cycling and am not sure what to expect from myself or how to get the most out of myself. I have been hanging out here hoping to derive this information from the group but I guess I’m too dense and just not seeing it plainly stated so I’ll throw out my questions and see what comes back.
First let me give you some parameters.
1) 60 year old male, 230 lbs. Quit smoking 2.5 yrs ago and generally in good health.
2) Started riding an “old” big-box-store mountain bike last summer. Did not ride between last Oct & this past May but ran ½ hour on a treadmill 4 nights a week during the off season. Bought a Trek 7300 (hybrid) this June and have ridden 478 miles so far this season.
3) Try to ride 4 times per week. Rides generally are between 15 – 20 miles at an average speed of about 12.5 MPH. Rides are in Delaware which is generally pretty flat.
My problem is that I keep reading how people are riding 30, 40, 50, 100 miles and averaging upwards of 17 mph or better. A lot of the rides are no less in what I would consider mountainous areas. I’m like “What’s my problem?”. Why am I not beating my 12.5 MPH average and why is a 20 mile ride killing me?
Toward all this I have a few questions and am open to any words of wisdom to answer them.
1) About my 12.5 MPH average and my 20 mile max. distance. Am I expecting too much out of my bike? Are these numbers about all I’m going to get out of my hybrid, understanding I’m not Lance Armstrong? Would I get better results were I on a road bike? I have looked at, and rode a road bike since ridding my hybrid and it seems it is a lot faster than my 7300.
2) When I ride I try to only stop every 5 miles for a break and then I only take a 6 minute break. I know it is six minutes because I use my bike’s odometer to time it. It shuts off after six minutes with no motion. That’s when I start riding again. Now I can’t imagine I’m not stopping enough so I guess my question is am I stopping long enough? I figure I am but I thought I’d ask how you all manage your breaks.
3) Nutrition. I have read so many things on nutrition that I think I have gained 5 lbs just from reading about it. Is there any magic in what you eat before, during, and after your ride? I’m on the South Beach diet so I’m trying to eat healthy. As far as my rides I usually don’t eat before or during my ride. However, I’m reading how people eat carbs before they ride, energy food while they ride, and protein after they ride. Are my rides too short (20 mile max) to worry about any of this or is my eating habits associated with my rides part of my problem?
Well that’s about it. I’m posting this in two forums, the hybrid and the 50+ so if you’ve seen/responded to this already I apologize. I just figure seeing as I’m over 50 and ride a hybrid the audience for these issues lies between the two groups so the best way to cover all the bases is to post in both groups.
Thanks In advance for any input and may you have a following wind on your next ride. Both out bound and inbound.
Bill
mikeybikes
10-02-09, 07:43 AM
The first question I have for you, what makes your limit 20 miles? Is it you're out of energy? Your muscles hurt too much? or?
P.S. I wouldn't worry about what other people can ride. You shouldn't expect to be able to maintain a 17-18mph average until you get more fit. I can manage 20 miles with an average pace of 14.5mph, but I've been riding lots longer than you.
norwood
10-02-09, 08:06 AM
My problem is that I keep reading how people are riding 30, 40, 50, 100 miles and averaging upwards of 17 mph or better.
Would I get better results were I on a road bike? I have looked at, and rode a road bike since ridding my hybrid and it seems it is a lot faster than my 7300.
As far as MPH averages, I think alot of riders stretch the truth a bit. Not all, but... quite a few. I think the day in day out average is lower, but hey, we like to use the average from that one day when we were feeling really strong.;)
That said a pure road bike would likely be somewhat faster. For a number of reasons.
Bottom line, it all doesn't really matter. Ride to enjoy yourself. Forget about riding to an average speed. Riding is making you healthy at any speed. Just enjoy yourself.
chipcom
10-02-09, 08:57 AM
Don't worry about your average speed...it is meaningless. If you want to compare yourself to other people...race, otherwise just enjoy the ride. If you want to use your average speed as a metric to judge yourself against your own past performance, cool, but keep in mind that many variables contribute to your average that must be considered for comparison sake.
For riding a Trek 7300, you ain't doing bad.
Bill,
If your goal is to increase your fitness then it doesn't matter how fast you ride, it matters if you get a good workout (which it sounds is the case). You might want to get a heart rate monitor to optimize the workout, but you're looking for a workout. I wouldn't be too concerned about how fast you are relative to others on the boards...some of whom have different goals, a different fitness baseline, different bikes, etc.
On the other hand, if your goal is to ride faster or longer then I would suggest starting a formal training program to reach that goal. There are lots of ways to do that, including groups that can train you to do a century, etc. Similar to marathon training programs, where somebody who can barely run 3 miles in April ends up running the Chicago marathon in October in a respectible 4:30 time (my wife, for example). But if you want to demonstrate improvement in a certain dimension, you need to identify specifically what that dimension is, set a specific goal, then commission a program to achieve it. And the great thing about the internet is that finding DIY training programs is easy and you don't even have to find a group or organization/coach (although that helps, since if the goals you set are difficult to achieve, some external motivation is helpful to many people).
Just my $0.02.
badger1
10-02-09, 09:18 AM
Don't worry about your average speed...it is meaningless. If you want to compare yourself to other people...race, otherwise just enjoy the ride. If you want to use your average speed as a metric to judge yourself against your own past performance, cool, but keep in mind that many variables contribute to your average that must be considered for comparison sake.
For riding a Trek 7300, you ain't doing bad.
+++1. OP, 'it's not about the bike'! As Chipcom says, you ain't doing bad at all -- quite the contrary. I post in 50+ too from time to time; I'm now 58, but didn't take up cycling seriously until I turned 50. First/second summer I was doing about like you (with 10 years on my age then) are now, using a heavy ol' cheapo mtb with road tires. Kept at it, now (over the past 4/5 years) averaging 5000+ kms/year, and probably overall fitter than at any point since my late 'teens.
Don't know my 'average speed', don't care. It's more than fast enough for me; I know that I'm (on average) faster than many (in roughly my age group), slower than some -- just a simple observation. Unless you want to race, or (as some are) are just interested in the stats, there's no point in worrying about it. Keep at it; the 'numbers' will - over time - go up:)
Wanderer
10-02-09, 09:29 AM
There is nothing wrong with a 12.5 average.
Are you able to ride more days ? Are you able to not stop so often? Have you tried to extend your rides gradually?
Just keep riding and enjoying the ride. Miles don't matter to mental health, riding does.
I used to average 14.5 - 15.0 when I rode alone, and harder.
I'm 63, by the way, and down to 190 from 210.
I now ride almost daily with a friend, usually doing 30 - 40 miles, and then additional as errrands during the day. We average 12.0 - 12.5 MPH, but enjoy the ride much more.
I don't mind riding alone, and even enjoy that; but, personal interaction is lots more fun.
Just enjoy the ride, miles will follow ... Speed doesn't matter.
Loose Chain
10-02-09, 09:50 AM
Need some help please. I’m fairly new to cycling and am not sure what to expect from myself or how to get the most out of myself. I have been hanging out here hoping to derive this information from the group but I guess I’m too dense and just not seeing it plainly stated so I’ll throw out my questions and see what comes back.
First let me give you some parameters.
1) 60 year old male, 230 lbs. Quit smoking 2.5 yrs ago and generally in good health.
2) Started riding an “old” big-box-store mountain bike last summer. Did not ride between last Oct & this past May but ran ½ hour on a treadmill 4 nights a week during the off season. Bought a Trek 7300 (hybrid) this June and have ridden 478 miles so far this season.
3) Try to ride 4 times per week. Rides generally are between 15 – 20 miles at an average speed of about 12.5 MPH. Rides are in Delaware which is generally pretty flat.
My problem is that I keep reading how people are riding 30, 40, 50, 100 miles and averaging upwards of 17 mph or better. A lot of the rides are no less in what I would consider mountainous areas. I’m like “What’s my problem?”. Why am I not beating my 12.5 MPH average and why is a 20 mile ride killing me?
Toward all this I have a few questions and am open to any words of wisdom to answer them.
1) About my 12.5 MPH average and my 20 mile max. distance. Am I expecting too much out of my bike? Are these numbers about all I’m going to get out of my hybrid, understanding I’m not Lance Armstrong? Would I get better results were I on a road bike? I have looked at, and rode a road bike since ridding my hybrid and it seems it is a lot faster than my 7300.
2) When I ride I try to only stop every 5 miles for a break and then I only take a 6 minute break. I know it is six minutes because I use my bike’s odometer to time it. It shuts off after six minutes with no motion. That’s when I start riding again. Now I can’t imagine I’m not stopping enough so I guess my question is am I stopping long enough? I figure I am but I thought I’d ask how you all manage your breaks.
3) Nutrition. I have read so many things on nutrition that I think I have gained 5 lbs just from reading about it. Is there any magic in what you eat before, during, and after your ride? I’m on the South Beach diet so I’m trying to eat healthy. As far as my rides I usually don’t eat before or during my ride. However, I’m reading how people eat carbs before they ride, energy food while they ride, and protein after they ride. Are my rides too short (20 mile max) to worry about any of this or is my eating habits associated with my rides part of my problem?
Well that’s about it. I’m posting this in two forums, the hybrid and the 50+ so if you’ve seen/responded to this already I apologize. I just figure seeing as I’m over 50 and ride a hybrid the audience for these issues lies between the two groups so the best way to cover all the bases is to post in both groups.
Thanks In advance for any input and may you have a following wind on your next ride. Both out bound and inbound.
Bill
Your bike is a junker and you are over weight and out of shape thus your 12.5 MPH limit and 20 miles barely making it maximum.
My 25 mile time is around one hour on my Pinarello steel rodie. On my Stupmjumper with knobbies I creak along at over 1:30 for the 25 miles. With Specialized 1.5 inch Nimbus tires on the Stumpie I can get maybe 1:20 for the 25 miles. On a box store MTB, I would fall over dead trying to make any of those times.
Congrats on stopping smoking but the damage is done and never will be undone, your lungs will never operate like they would have now if you had not smoked all of your life. Just be glad you do not have emphysema and cannot ride or walk at all and instead have an O2 tube in your nose which is were many smokers wind up.
Go to a bike shop and get a real bicycle, not a MTB, unless dirt roads are where you ride, otherwise get a bicycle suitable for long distance touring on pavement. It is about the bike.
qmsdc15
10-02-09, 09:59 AM
Trek 7300
chipcom
10-02-09, 10:36 AM
Your bike is a junker and you are over weight and out of shape thus your 12.5 MPH limit and 20 miles barely making it maximum.
My 25 mile time is around one hour on my Pinarello steel rodie. On my Stupmjumper with knobbies I creak along at over 1:30 for the 25 miles. With Specialized 1.5 inch Nimbus tires on the Stumpie I can get maybe 1:20 for the 25 miles. On a box store MTB, I would fall over dead trying to make any of those times.
Congrats on stopping smoking but the damage is done and never will be undone, your lungs will never operate like they would have now if you had not smoked all of your life. Just be glad you do not have emphysema and cannot ride or walk at all and instead have an O2 tube in your nose which is were many smokers wind up.
Go to a bike shop and get a real bicycle, not a MTB, unless dirt roads are where you ride, otherwise get a bicycle suitable for long distance touring on pavement. It is about the bike.
Shouldn't you be in school at this time of day, noobsauce?
Don't make me call the truant officers on you.
How does it feel to be slower than a 50 year old fat dude like me?
Come back when you discover puberty.
norwood
10-02-09, 10:41 AM
I think it is about the bike. If he's on a 38lb mountain bike from Walmart with nothing more than a spring for rear suspension the majority of the energy he puts out does not go towards forward momentum. The bike, the tires, bike fit. Starting at the beginning is starting with the bike.
He has to stop every 5 miles for a rest!
Can you read?
Saddle Up
10-02-09, 10:52 AM
Apparently no! Fixed.
Terrierman
10-02-09, 11:07 AM
My two cents: If you want to ride further than 20 miles, don't stop until you've ridden further than 20 miles. That sounds flip on the surface, but really it isn't. The further and more often you ride the fitter you will get and the further you will be able to ride comfortably. Find a longer loop and break up the routine. About the average speed, you're doing fine, remember this is the internet and exaggeration happens. On a lot of my rides that's about what I average too. Keep eating right and riding more often and you will - absolutely positively guaranteed - continue to improve. But at our age (I'm 57) it takes a while. And it is worth it. So hang in there.
kenkayak
10-02-09, 11:13 AM
Well you bought a great bike, It's probably better suited for hardcore gravel than tar but what the hell. At your age It's what you did in your past that will deside your bikeing future developeing leg strenth at 50 will involve weights and bike hill climbing: Id forget the treadmill this is bikeing not jogging If your super serious about training go visit the folks road cycleing and raceing./Kenneth
badger1
10-02-09, 11:31 AM
Your bike is a junker and you are over weight and out of shape thus your 12.5 MPH limit and 20 miles barely making it maximum.
My 25 mile time is around one hour on my Pinarello steel rodie. On my Stupmjumper with knobbies I creak along at over 1:30 for the 25 miles. With Specialized 1.5 inch Nimbus tires on the Stumpie I can get maybe 1:20 for the 25 miles. On a box store MTB, I would fall over dead trying to make any of those times.
Congrats on stopping smoking but the damage is done and never will be undone, your lungs will never operate like they would have now if you had not smoked all of your life. Just be glad you do not have emphysema and cannot ride or walk at all and instead have an O2 tube in your nose which is were many smokers wind up.
Go to a bike shop and get a real bicycle, not a MTB, unless dirt roads are where you ride, otherwise get a bicycle suitable for long distance touring on pavement. It is about the bike.
There are two possibilities here: either this is an attempt to parody the kinds of 'helpful':rolleyes: responses to an honest set of questions from the OP which often pop up on these boards, or this individual means each and every word. If the former, it fails miserably; if the latter, what -- WHAT was the point?
Message to Bill: just ignore this one.
Trakhak
10-02-09, 01:13 PM
On average speed:
(1) Once asked a racer friend (a repeat state time-trial champion) how he kept track of his training rides, since he didn't use a bike computer. "I just look at my watch at the start and finish of the ride and figure that I average 15 miles per hour when I'm training," he said.
(2) Went out on an early-season training ride with another of the local upper-level racers. He said that he'd be happy to ride with me but that he knows what pace he has to maintain, and he maintains that pace no matter what. I started pushing a tiny bit on a long, steady climb, thinking that I might be holding him back. Looked around after a minute - the other guy was about 15 feet behind me. That was a wake-up call; when elite riders say they're going to maintain a training pace, they mean it.
(3) One of the guys on the Road forum recently wrote, "You'll beat me anywhere but in a race."
Moral: do the pace that's right for you in your current state of fitness, and you'll reap the benefits in the long run. It took a while for me to figure that out, but when I did, I started using my pulsemeter to control my rides. In the early season, hill climbing at 155 or 160 beats per minute seems awfully slow, but after a few months, I'm flying on the climbs. At 58, I'm pretty nearly as strong on the hills as I was at 25.
Wanderer
10-02-09, 03:27 PM
And, that Trek is a nice bike, and will do fine.
Your lungs will also improve, it will just take time, along with your sense of taste and smell.
Enjoy the ride - it will get better every day, if you let it.
Congrats on stopping smoking but the damage is done and never will be undone, your lungs will never operate like they would have now if you had not smoked all of your life. Just be glad you do not have emphysema and cannot ride or walk at all and instead have an O2 tube in your nose which is were many smokers wind up.
Bulls*it. I smoked a pack a day for over 5 years. 10 years after my last cigarette I have no problem averaging >19mph over a 35 mile course and >18mph over 50miles. On a hybrid -- a Trek 7.5FX. I can also run a 10k in <46 minutes, which is more taxing on my lungs than any of the above.
I don't know if your post is a pathetic attempt at humor or something else, but it is off base and mean spirited.
Jesse Miller
10-02-09, 05:53 PM
Need some help please. I’m fairly new to cycling and am not sure what to expect from myself or how to get the most out of myself. I have been hanging out here hoping to derive this information from the group but I guess I’m too dense and just not seeing it plainly stated so I’ll throw out my questions and see what comes back.
First let me give you some parameters.
1) 60 year old male, 230 lbs. Quit smoking 2.5 yrs ago and generally in good health.
2) Started riding an “old” big-box-store mountain bike last summer. Did not ride between last Oct & this past May but ran ½ hour on a treadmill 4 nights a week during the off season. Bought a Trek 7300 (hybrid) this June and have ridden 478 miles so far this season.
3) Try to ride 4 times per week. Rides generally are between 15 – 20 miles at an average speed of about 12.5 MPH. Rides are in Delaware which is generally pretty flat.
My problem is that I keep reading how people are riding 30, 40, 50, 100 miles and averaging upwards of 17 mph or better. A lot of the rides are no less in what I would consider mountainous areas. I’m like “What’s my problem?”. Why am I not beating my 12.5 MPH average and why is a 20 mile ride killing me?
Toward all this I have a few questions and am open to any words of wisdom to answer them.
1) About my 12.5 MPH average and my 20 mile max. distance. Am I expecting too much out of my bike? Are these numbers about all I’m going to get out of my hybrid, understanding I’m not Lance Armstrong? Would I get better results were I on a road bike? I have looked at, and rode a road bike since ridding my hybrid and it seems it is a lot faster than my 7300.
2) When I ride I try to only stop every 5 miles for a break and then I only take a 6 minute break. I know it is six minutes because I use my bike’s odometer to time it. It shuts off after six minutes with no motion. That’s when I start riding again. Now I can’t imagine I’m not stopping enough so I guess my question is am I stopping long enough? I figure I am but I thought I’d ask how you all manage your breaks.
3) Nutrition. I have read so many things on nutrition that I think I have gained 5 lbs just from reading about it. Is there any magic in what you eat before, during, and after your ride? I’m on the South Beach diet so I’m trying to eat healthy. As far as my rides I usually don’t eat before or during my ride. However, I’m reading how people eat carbs before they ride, energy food while they ride, and protein after they ride. Are my rides too short (20 mile max) to worry about any of this or is my eating habits associated with my rides part of my problem?
Well that’s about it. I’m posting this in two forums, the hybrid and the 50+ so if you’ve seen/responded to this already I apologize. I just figure seeing as I’m over 50 and ride a hybrid the audience for these issues lies between the two groups so the best way to cover all the bases is to post in both groups.
Thanks In advance for any input and may you have a following wind on your next ride. Both out bound and inbound.
Bill
Your lungs will heal themselves over time. This is one of the only organs that heals itself.
Loose Chain
10-02-09, 07:23 PM
Shouldn't you be in school at this time of day, noobsauce?
Don't make me call the truant officers on you.
How does it feel to be slower than a 50 year old fat dude like me?
Come back when you discover puberty.
I graduated HS in 1972.
I am not trying to be mean, his new bike is a good bike, the MTB he had was a dog. He will do much better with the new bike. As to the rest, I can stay with it. The damage a life of smoking does to lungs cannot be fully reversed. It is a good thing to get out and exercise and especially cycle because his life quality will be much improved and with the new bike his speeds and fitness should greatly improve.
The part on the package of cigs where it says, may be dangerous to your health, that has been there a long time. Smoking causes permanent damage that cannot be undone and in aerobic sports like cycling it will be a factor.
bill_pfaff
10-02-09, 07:48 PM
Wow, I wish I could speak to each and every one of you're posts as each one was outstanding. There wasn't one post from which I didn't get some piece of worthwhile information or encouragement. Even from Loose Chain's post.
On a side note this is why I joined this forum. I watched it for a while before joining and was very impressed with the level of useful information and mutual respect reflected by most all of the threads. Understanding friendly bantering.
Back to the point. After all is said and done what I'm generally getting from your posts is that I'm on the right track, relax, and keep riding to a pace I'm comfortable with yet always pushing the limits just a bit. Things will improve.
Moving forward. Seeing as I'm a big sissy and as soon as it gets too cold I'm done ridding I think I'll look into a spinning type bike or a training stand to get me through the winter.
Thank you all again!
meanwhile
10-02-09, 08:08 PM
Bill - you haven't said why you stop at 20 miles. Are your legs sore, or just tired, or do you have back ache? Each of these will indicate a different problem.
Anyway -
1. Are you drinking water while you ride? You should try drinking more and see if it makes a difference. It's worth considering a cheap hydration pack. Don't wait to feel thirsty - try drinking every 5 minutes if you get the pack.
2. Have you tried a snack like a banana every, say, ten miles to keep your energy up? (By the way - don't be constrained by the South Beach diet while snacking during rides: your blood sugar behaves very differently during intense exercise.)
3. Most people have their saddles too low - your leg should just be barely bent at its utmost extension while pedaling. Get this wrong and you'll really waste energy, lose speed, and lack range
4. Two reasonably cheap changes that will make your bike slightly faster: i. Put better tyres on. The stock ones are reasonably puncture proof but slow. Continental Sports Contacts in 32 to 38mm width are one good choice for speed. Marathon Supremes are fast and tough if you're willing to pay the price. ii. Cut the handlebars down to just over shoulder width - you could then fit Ergon bar end grips for extra comfort, which will help with the range.
5. Keeping your tyres at the correct pressure and your chain clean will help your speed
6. Vary your riding. Eg try to ride a fast ten miles one day, go for distance the next, etc. Trying intervals - eg go really fast for one minute, ride slowly for 5 to get your breath back, then go for it again. But you see your doctor before pushing it too hard!
My bet is that your range would go up quite quickly if your fix any seat height problem, stay hydrated, and have the odd snack.
bill_pfaff
10-03-09, 06:33 AM
Bill - you haven't said why you stop at 20 miles. - Stopping just because I’m out of energy. Not winded, not sore, not much else other than out of energy.
1. Are you drinking water while you ride? - I carry 44 OZ of a sports drink and pretty much finish it all especially if it’s hot.
2. Have you tried a snack like a banana every, say, ten miles to keep your energy up? – Well now this is interesting. I do not carry or eat anything while I ride. This was one of my questions. Am I riding far enough to snack and if so then how much should I snack and a bigger question is WHAT should I snack. I know some in this thread have said I should not need to snack given my distance and I tend to agree with them but then again could that maybe be my issue?
3. Most people have their saddles too low – I set my saddle by sitting on the bike with my leg fully extended and my heal on the peddle. That’s what I read I should do.
4. Two reasonably cheap changes that will make your bike slightly faster:
i. Put better tires on – Noted
ii. Cut the handlebars down to just over shoulder width – Also noted but I will need to study this a little to figure out what you are suggesting.
5. Keeping your tires at the correct pressure and your chain clean will help your speed – Tires are up to pressure. How do you clean your chain?
6. Vary your riding – Noted. Trying intervals –Noted. But you see your doctor before pushing it too hard! – Noted but he’s pretty happy with what I’m doing.
All good stuff and it was a good summation of what a lot of others were saying. That’s why I wanted to speak specifically to your points.
Again, thank you meanwhile and everyone else.
chipcom
10-03-09, 06:56 AM
Moving forward. Seeing as I'm a big sissy and as soon as it gets too cold I'm done ridding I think I'll look into a spinning type bike or a training stand to get me through the winter.
Don't be sissy! You don't have to be hardcore riding in subzero temps or snowstorms...but even in winter there are perfectly rideable days where the roads are dry, the winds are calm and the temps are fair.
Wanderer
10-03-09, 07:09 AM
If and when you buy Ergon Grips, get the old style, and regular bar ends. With the old style (GP-1) you can still add a rear view mirror, like a Mountain Myrracle, so you can monitor what's happening behind you.
Even if you don't go with the Ergons, get the mirror. It gives you as much info as the one in your car. It's even worthwhile on bike paths.
Keep riding - this is one thing that will really help you, and it's just as much fun as it was when you were a kid.
meanwhile
10-03-09, 01:28 PM
Bill - you haven't said why you stop at 20 miles. - Stopping just because I’m out of energy. Not winded, not sore, not much else other than out of energy.
1. Are you drinking water while you ride? - I carry 44 OZ of a sports drink and pretty much finish it all especially if it’s hot.
2. Have you tried a snack like a banana every, say, ten miles to keep your energy up? – Well now this is interesting. I do not carry or eat anything while I ride. This was one of my questions. Am I riding far enough to snack and if so then how much should I snack and a bigger question is WHAT should I snack.
Need varies with your metabolism. You don't say if your sports drink is has a carbohydrate component - which could reduce the need to snack. The simple answer to finding out if a snack works for you is to try. Use a banana one day, a tuna sandwich the next - just find out what your body needs.
I know some in this thread have said I should not need to snack given my distance and I tend to agree with them but then again could that maybe be my issue?
There are no absolute rules. Experiment to find what works for you.
5. Keeping your tires at the correct pressure and your chain clean will help your speed – Tires are up to pressure. How do you clean your chain?
Lots of ways. Just type "bicycle chain cleaning" into google and look for a method you're happy with. It probably won't make a huge difference, but little things can add up and help tip you over the edge to a breakthrough.
6. Vary your riding – Noted. Trying intervals –Noted. But you see your doctor before pushing it too hard! – Noted but he’s pretty happy with what I’m doing.
Just be aware that interval training is *much* harder. Don't try following one of the standard "recipes" without medical supervision.
meanwhile
10-03-09, 01:32 PM
Oh - the other cheap hack to make a bike faster and get more range: if you're using conventional platform pedals the replace them with BMX pedals with "pins" that stick out to grip your shoe. These let you pedal about as efficiently as the racing pedals that lock to special shoes, but they're very cheap. A $20 pair off ebay will be fine. A lot of the power in your pedal stroke lies between 8 and 4 o'clock - ie the part of the cycle at the bottom of the stroke when the pedal is moving horizontally. Locking aka clipless pedals and BMX pedals let you capture this.
bill_pfaff
10-04-09, 04:24 PM
More good stuff from you all. Thanks for filling in some of the blanks meanwhile.
OK, the sissy will watch for wx acceptable days and give it a crack. Especially the ones with no wind.
As far as the Ergon Grips, I’m not going to lie, I have no idea what you are talking about but I have the technology (the internet) and I will investigate first chance I get.
For all that have stressed and encouraged me to continue riding and to press the envelope, I am happy to report I just returned from doing the Tour Du Port in Baltimore. I signed up for the 19 mile segment but ended up doing 28.25 miles. Avg speed 10.1, pedal time 2hr 48 min, wall time for the 19 mile segment approx 3hr 15 min-2 stops). The extra miles were riding to and from the event. I stayed at my son’s house that lives near where the event started/ended in Baltimore.
Above and beyond the mileage; at least 4 of those miles had some horrendous hills compared to the flat lands of Delaware and although I had to take most of those hills with the lowest of my 24 gears, I did them without getting off the bike. Oh, and three of those “mountains” included some fairly stiff head winds.
Hey, this was the first organized ride I have ever participated in and I accomplished a lot of thing I thought were pretty much out of my reach. It’s a start. Thanks for all the input. Know that all of it was ringing in my ears the whole ride.
Getting a higher average speed can be easy, but I have some tips for you. First off people who have been riding 30-40-100 miles are in crazy good cardiovascular shape. They have been training for years. The younger you start the better off your averages and mileage will be. Also being an x smoker and depending on how many years you smoked can adversely affect your riding today. But theres hope!
I have found that by watching professional time trialists a good little trick they learn. If you really want to increase your average speed you need to get out of the saddle more often. I have seen that if they hit a small increase in gradiant or they are starting to slow down they get out of the saddle and get back to a higher speed and then try to maintain that higher speed. This has helped me a lot. Just peddling while sitting down won't allow you to get up to a high speed to maintain for longer. Gotta use those calves and glutes more.
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