Road Cycling - Top 5 Bikes

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astonv0l
07-27-04, 07:59 AM
So after watching the TdF, what is everyones top 5 bikes :D
pletcgm
07-27-04, 08:44 AM
So after watching the TdF, what is everyones top 5 bikes :D
Giant TCR
I'd still like to have one of the Fassa Pinarello Dogma's.
Laggard
07-27-04, 09:01 AM
Mayo's Orbea Orca
saabcaptain
07-27-04, 09:43 AM
I know NOTHING about high end road bikes but what do most folks think of the Trek high end line of Tour bikes, the Madone 5.9's and the Time Trial bike? Are they really a big part of the success or is it 99.9% the rider at that point? Is it common knowledge other's are "better?" How much difference is design really is there for the bikes at this high a level...
Totally ignorant and curious...
aluckyfiji
07-27-04, 09:45 AM
i loved Phonak's BMC and Mayo Orbea (my next bike)
BMC's Phonak Team Issue is very well thought out and IMO take the engineering crown.
Some of the bikes are just stupidly light, would'nt trust a production bike thats that light..
Best bike is always the one that fits
MelloBoy
07-27-04, 11:50 AM
i liked the tricycle a little girl was on on the side of i think one of the mtn stages :P
neuronbliss
07-27-04, 12:03 PM
Ill put a vote in for Softride... Even though they are illegal due to the aerodynamic advantage. The carbon-fiber beam takes the bumps out of the road, leaving you on your seat to power through. btw, I don't find them bouncy.
brunning
07-27-04, 12:10 PM
the BMC totally takes the cake for mechanically cool bike of the 04 tdf. while they were nicely crash-tested, it's too bad they didn't get to shine in the end.
otherwise, nothing really sparked my interest as being all that cool.
nice bikes though, sure.
no3puttchad
07-27-04, 12:21 PM
I still like my K2 Mod5.0. Although, i doubt i will ever see one at the tour....
BigFloppyLlama
07-27-04, 12:28 PM
Scott CR1 or TCR Advanced.
I'd love to get my hands on the BMC Team Phonak (http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCY?PAGE=PRODUCT&PRODUCT.ID=1001) frame! At first I wasn't fond of the color scheme, but they've grown on me.
:eek:
Ed
Ooh La La, Thomas Voeckler's "Brioches La Boulangère Time VXRS", what a name. Not a bike, it is a unit.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2004/tour04/tech/?id=voeckler-bike.
I still want an Aegis.
J-McKech
07-27-04, 01:19 PM
The Dogma's that fassa was riding. My dream bike!
Mayo's Orbea Orca
I prefer Orbea's Starship Carbon - the standard Euskaltel team bike.
But my favourite bike this year was probably Gerolsteiner's Wilier Triestina (http://www.cyclingnews.com/teamtech04.php?id=tech/2004/probikes/gerolsteiner_wilier).
gcasillo
07-27-04, 02:39 PM
Dogma for sure.
While I don't like the Alessio-Bianchi color scheme, I have a EV3 and love it top to bottom.
I could use a Madone SSL OCLV55 to help drag my carcass over the mounds we have here in Kentucky. :o
I prefer Orbea's Starship Carbon - the standard Euskaltel team bike.
But my favourite bike this year was probably Gerolsteiner's Wilier Triestina (http://www.cyclingnews.com/teamtech04.php?id=tech/2004/probikes/gerolsteiner_wilier).
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/tech/news/jun08/rebellin_bike03.jpg
No respect for Wilier after they flat-out lied about Rebeillin's carbon "Wilier prototype" that he won Amstel, Fleche Wallone and L-B-L on. It is a painted SCOTT CR1.
Time looks sharp- can't wait to ride one to check it out
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/tour04/tech/voeckler-bike/CH9114.jpg
Pettachi's badarse Dogma! Love this bike!!
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/tour04/tech/tourbikes1/CN-TDF04-Tech17.jpg
Mancebo's Leonardo! Carbon love!
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/tour04/tech/tourbikes1/CN-TDF04-Tech20.jpg
tourist
07-27-04, 03:24 PM
Dawg-mah
It's no big deal that they ride rebadged Scotts.
The big deal is that Wilier totally lied when if Rebellin's bike was really a Wilier. They said it was really a Wilier, to which SCOTT released a statement confirming it was the CR1 and that they were happy to keep quiet, understand sponsorship agreements but would not stand for flat-out lies or misrepresentation of their product.
I agree with Scott. It also makes you wonder what else Wilier lies about doesn't it?
uh, I guess girl27 deleted her post I was responding to...
uh, I guess girl27 deleted her post I was responding to...
Ha! I wanted to edit. I'm all confused now. :)
You've got a good eye, Racer. Help me sort this out... The Scott/Wilier prototype that Rebellin rode, was ridden by a few of the G'steiner riders at the Tour, right? But it isn't the same as the actual team bike, I don't think (see the link I've posted). My understanding is that the team bike is way low on carbon fibre, which I dig. It's not like the Scott you've linked to above.
I'm definitely in the habit of falling for liars. So, nothing surprises me anymore. ;)
I went round to a LBS near where I work today after finding out that they stock Orbea just to take a peek. The shop had the BMC and the Orbea bikes ridden in the tour. Wish I was a rich man ...
growlgames
07-27-04, 05:22 PM
I finally saw the Phonak BMC in person today; that is one nice bike. Sign me up...
ProvRider
07-27-04, 06:02 PM
A lot of the frames mentioned in this thread are offered at wrench science. Mac a co-worker has an Orbea found out today. Went all excited for a De Rosa, rode it and hated it...then rode the Orbea...swears by it. Great a new model added to the list.
2Rodies
07-27-04, 06:17 PM
Mayo's Orbea Orca
Just bought an Orca (silver and blue) and I reeeeeeeeely like it! I totaled my Cinelli in a bad accident last week and replaced with the Orca. Very stiff but the Carbon dampens so much better than the Starship tubing did it's like riding on air. Without peds and cages 15lb10oz. With peds/cages/comp/hrm 17lb6oz.
Orbea Orca
'03 Record Carbon 10s
'03 Camy Neutrons
Cinelli Solido Stem and Bars
Frizik Arione saddle
USE Alien Carbon Seat Post
Hutchisson Carbon Comps
Look Cx6 ti
astonv0l
07-27-04, 09:29 PM
Mine was the BMC Phonak.................mmmmmmmmmmm, BMC
g'day,
nice bikes all,.......but......the very best must be hushovd's Look KG 486. Didn't think much of the CA colour scheme though.....& i'm not biased....even though there's one hanging in my bedroom!
cheers,
Hitchy
ChAnMaN
07-27-04, 09:36 PM
dont know about top 5 but the best bike there in my opinion was the new, all carbon 2005 Specialized Tarmac which was ridding by Mario Cipollini and the rest of the Domina Vacanze team
roadienewt
07-27-04, 10:33 PM
My impression of the BMC bike ridden by Phonak was not that hot, especially when Tyler complained about all the mechanical failures that occurred with them. This could be more mechanic-related, and not necessarily BMC's fault however. I'd honestly never heard of BMC until this year.
jedi_rider
07-28-04, 12:33 AM
Cervelo's R2.5 carbone bike ridden by CSC!
Ha! I wanted to edit. I'm all confused now. :)
You've got a good eye, Racer. Help me sort this out... The Scott/Wilier prototype that Rebellin rode, was ridden by a few of the G'steiner riders at the Tour, right? But it isn't the same as the actual team bike, I don't think (see the link I've posted). My understanding is that the team bike is way low on carbon fibre, which I dig. It's not like the Scott you've linked to above.
I'm definitely in the habit of falling for liars. So, nothing surprises me anymore. ;)
Yeah the Triestina is a scandium frame. I actually hadn't noticed what frame Gerolsteiner rode in the Tour...maybe somone else will know.
I would never give money to a company so openly decietful so I scratch them off my list. SCOTT, however, has a real gem with that CR1.
Ooh La La, Thomas Voeckler's "Brioches La Boulangère Time VXRS", what a name. Not a bike, it is a unit.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2004/tour04/tech/?id=voeckler-bike.
That's an interesting seat-tube but those Stronglight cranks are the cat's meow! They look great with the Campy Record setup and the Cosmic wheels.
I still want an Aegis.
Spoken like a cyclist after my own heart. :)
SCOTT, however, has a real gem with that CR1.
My FBS carries those Scott CR1 Teams and they are definately very nice bikes. Apparently they're selling like hotcakes. The FBS can't seem to keep them in stock long enough. They sold a good half-dozen in the past few weeks.
dont know about top 5 but the best bike there in my opinion was the new, all carbon 2005 Specialized Tarmac which was ridding by Mario Cipollini and the rest of the Domina Vacanze team
The Specialized Tarmac is not full carbon, it is a carbon aluminum. Still very cool though.
Description from Specialized site:
Specialized carbon fiber monocoque carbon with E5 hand-welded double butted frame with replaceable derailleur hanger
http://www.where-does-the-carbon-fiber-begin-and-the-aluminum-end.com/
Crispin
07-28-04, 04:54 AM
I like this one
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/tour04/tech/?id=tourbikes2/CN-TDF04-Colnago01
To bad it has Dura-ace on it, Record would be much more beautiful.
Was anyone riding Walser this year for TT?
Now that is a nice bike.
I do like the Cervellos that CSC rode.
Marty
were there any cervelo soloist? or was it just the non aero crap they had?
Was anyone riding Walser this year for TT?
Now that is a nice bike.
I do like the Cervellos that CSC rode.
Marty
Yes Jan Ullrich was riding his, painted in T-mobile livery and Giant stickers
jedi_rider
07-28-04, 11:19 AM
The Specialized Tarmac is not full carbon, it is a carbon aluminum. Still very cool though.
Description from Specialized site:
Specialized carbon fiber monocoque carbon with E5 hand-welded double butted frame with replaceable derailleur hanger
http://www.where-does-the-carbon-fiber-begin-and-the-aluminum-end.com/
Specialized test rode a full carbon Tarmac this year at the TdF. You could see Simeoni riding one when Lance wouldn't let him get away.
ChAnMaN
07-28-04, 11:28 AM
The Specialized Tarmac is not full carbon, it is a carbon aluminum. Still very cool though.
Description from Specialized site:
Specialized carbon fiber monocoque carbon with E5 hand-welded double butted frame with replaceable derailleur hanger
http://www.where-does-the-carbon-fiber-begin-and-the-aluminum-end.com/
umm ya the 2004 tarmac is carbon aluminum but the prototype 2005 model is not, its all carbon
s2sxiii
07-28-04, 11:33 AM
I like this one
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/tour04/tech/?id=tourbikes2/CN-TDF04-Colnago01
To bad it has Dura-ace on it, Record would be much more beautiful.
the guy in the next office over usually rides his ss cannondale road bike to work, but yesterday brought his C-40, full record, in to show off. I had to change my pants.
1inamil600
07-28-04, 11:40 AM
Specialized S-Works...
shaharidan
07-28-04, 11:48 AM
are pretty much all the bikes in the tour carbon nowdays, or is there a good mix of all materials?
does anyone at all ride steel?
Steel is just not fashionable any longer and the riders want the lightest possible bike from their sponsor.
Since Cannondale made the 613 and made a big noise about it being easy to built it to 6.8kgs, everyone going Carbon mad.
I think evey team had carbon bikes this year except Saeco whose Carbon AL mix is pretty unique.
Colnago teams were riding C50's
CSC all used R2.5 Cervelo's
Euskatel had a special light weight AL bike for Mayo to use in the mountains but he prefered the Orca anyways.
Posties used the Madone SSL's (it appears)
Bianchi used carbon frames.
No Litespeeds in sight
No Merlins
No Steel anywhere except in axles and Bearings (maybe)
It seems carbon really has arrived now and has taken over the peloton.
ShinyBaldy
07-28-04, 03:16 PM
The Specialized Tarmac is not full carbon, it is a carbon aluminum. Still very cool though.
Description from Specialized site:
Specialized carbon fiber monocoque carbon with E5 hand-welded double butted frame with replaceable derailleur hanger
http://www.where-does-the-carbon-fiber-begin-and-the-aluminum-end.com/
uh not quite - this year's Tarmac is full carbon - they removed the alum section.
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