Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) - clyde weigh loss ? ? ?

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uberalles
10-12-09, 07:20 AM
i picked up riding (4 months ago)
i'm riding on avg 6 days a week (15-20miles @ 16mph and longer rides on the weekend 25-30miles) and one rest day
i've changed my eating
cut out soda
lean meats, veggies, fruit.....cut out snacking at night (unless i have carrots)
i calorie intake is between 1800-2200 a day (which i consider a good amount)
i'm 6' started at 257lbs and currently i'm 255lbs
is there something i can do to jump start the weight loss?
should i just eat less and increase the miles?
i've seen changes in my legs(they're leaning out, so are my arms, face, and neck), but not in the waist
any advice would be helpful
c.miller64
10-12-09, 07:36 AM
I know everyone is different, but based on your calories consumed / burned, you should be seeing at least 1-2 pounds a week loss with your regime.
I think you should really discuss this with your doctor.
Condorita
10-12-09, 08:48 AM
According to definition number 5, the use of regime is correct. But generally speaking, you should be using regimen for an exercise program, not regime.
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MrClyde
10-12-09, 09:18 AM
I started in January. I did not lose much weight at all the first 4 months or so like you. I think it was about June before I lost the first 5 lbs. As of 10/1, I have lost "only" 20 lbs since Jan 1. I lost about 5 lbs in the month of Sept alone. Sounds like you are going through a similar experience. I have tried to steadily increase my riding mileage and intensity, working in more and more hills.
Others report losing 40+ lbs the first 6 months. Everyone is different.
As far as your riding goes, do you ride the same route all the time? Mix it up. Go find some hills. Is there something else you can alternate with cycling? Jogging? If you can find a hill, even if it is only 100 ft high or so, do repeats on it instead of your normal ride.
Good luck, keep at it and you will see results.
Might not make any difference, but muscle weighs more then fat. You might be losing fat but gaining muscle mass. If you're starting to lean out, even if only in certain places, you're getting into better shape.
According to definition number 5, the use of regime is correct. But generally speaking, you should be using regimen for an exercise program, not regime.
I used "regime" to describe an oppressive late Victorian 'diet' that required people to chew a bite of food once for every tooth they had. I think I was correct to do so. :thumb:
uberalles
10-12-09, 10:13 AM
yeah i'm riding a local trail and finish my ride with hill repeats.... about a km long and raising about 100 ft... i sprint about 500yrs of it to and then settle in for the remainder ....
i do through in sprints (up to 25-28mph) during my ride... normally lasting 100yrds to get my heart rate up and then settle in to cruise back 16mph
my legs are getting the big v shape in my calf muscle ...and my thighs are getting ripped too
i plan on keeping at it..and i just have to jump the 4-6month hurdle..
John Bailey
10-12-09, 03:26 PM
With some folks, like me, the body will try to hang on to all the nutrients it can when faced with fewer calories and more excersise. Some call it "starvation" mode. I don't know what it is, but whenever I've tried it I've gained weight for awhile till my body gives up. When I started dieting and riding, about 3 months ago now, I rode 200 km. a week and averaged 1800 calories. I gained 9 lbs. in two weeks before I started losing. Since then, I've lost 25 lbs. and seem to be on a steady track down. I started at 261, went up to 270 and I'm now at 244.
Keep at it!! At your calorie intake and excersise regime, you'll start losing more anytime now. Try not to lose more than 2 lbs. a week as common thought is more than 2 lbs. and you'll be losing muscle.
Hope that helps.
John
lucid0ne
10-12-09, 03:41 PM
Whats worked for me is just trying to figure out my meals ahead of time so I don't "throw in" any extra calories / carbs etc. Also eating meals high in fiber and shaving as many carbs off of non ride days will help also. (going to culinary school and learning about nutrition has scared me from eating almost anything I don't cook myself) Just keep on pushing farther / longer and try to full on spring 1min 3-4 mins rest riding about 8-10 repeats or whatever feels a bit past comfortable. Do this after your warmup of 5-10 mins and you will gain a considerable amount more calories burning due to carry over.
My body seems to build muscle at a fast rate so my weight loss is slow but aslong as you can SEE the changes it's a good thing. Light isometric workouts along with strength training in the 60-65% of max rep work wonders for weight loss from my experience. 12-16 reps is usually good for weight loss if you can do more increase if you can only do 8-10 drop a plate or two
lucid0ne
10-12-09, 03:43 PM
Also your body stores fat sort of like an index it will burn the fat usually in the last stored places (face, neck, arms) so just keep stepping it up and try to pick up a HRM they help A LOT.
notbrant
10-12-09, 05:07 PM
I use The Daily Plate to keep track of calories( not exercise though) and since ive been eating as much as it says to, i've been losing as much weight as I should be
RatedZeroHero
10-12-09, 05:14 PM
you will gain muscle... and lose water... the fat you want to remove is 'visceral' that will go first and is inside your body cavity and will go without you really noticing... the muscle gain and loss of visceral fat won't really make you look good naked... for that you need to change your metabolism...
there are things you can do to tell your body to burn body fat...
and not in the traditional sense of burn more calories than you eat weight watchery crap...
I am eating so much good clean food I am sick of eating...
www.physiquetransformation.com read "Secrets of a Professional Dieter" that will explain alot
notbrant
10-12-09, 05:16 PM
you will gain muscle...
there are things you can do to lose alot or bodyfat
and not in the traditional sense of burn more than you eat... PM me I'll tell you
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might be a little hard buddy.
You may possibly be eating too little which will cause you to not drop weight. You could try increasing the amount of calories by 500 a day and see how it changes. Also, you have to log everything when playing this game. No guessing, not estimating, log everything. However, as long as you are seeing changes to your measurements, you are losing fat even if the scale doesn't move.
I havent been able to put on many miles the last few weeks so I just concentrated on my diet. I have been able to drop 1 to 2 lbs a week just on diet alone. You have to count everthing that goes in your mouth. ECB1
RatedZeroHero mentions looking good naked. At 47yrs old and 239lbs I don't know if I will ever look good naked. I hope my wife isn't telling me stories. ECB1
dahvaio
10-12-09, 09:18 PM
First,
Don't ever listen to that "crap" about muscle weighs more than fat. Of course it weighs more than fat but it is very difficult to increase your lean muscle mass enough to outweigh your "fat loss". It is simply a term people employ to make themselves "feel better" for not losing weight.
From you post, I would do a couple of things:
1. I doubt your calorie count is accurate. It is probably more of an estimate. If you really are counting every calorie consumed, then there is something wrong with your body, go see a doctor. However, if you are estimating your calories, then you need to keep better track of your calories. You would be amazed at how many calories you consume. You need to track anything and everything which goes in; otherwise, you are not tracking the calories properly.
2. 6 Days of riding 15-20 miles at 16MPH is fine and dandy; however, you might be overtraining. Furthermore, mileage is not as important as time on the bicycle; especially, with your HR within the "fat burning" zone. Change your schedule to 5 days week but increase the time on the bicycle at least 1 hour and 30 minutes. Increase the time to at least 2 hours on a ride or two. Getting an HR monitor might also help you to maintain a "fat burning" zone during your entire ride.
Weightloss/fatloss is a slow process; therefore, time on the bicycle will help. Data Tracking is also important. Keep a daily log of what you eat, how much you weigh, excercise performed and how you felt.
Good luck
First,
Don't ever listen to that "crap" about muscle weighs more than fat. Of course it weighs more than fat
If "of course it weighs more then fat", then it's not "crap".
I guess everone is different. I don't lose anything unless I drasticly reduce calories, I started 1 1/2 months ago at 800 calories a day, and have dropped 33 pounds so far. Now that I have puchased a bike that will need to increase somewhat.
RatedZeroHero
10-12-09, 11:37 PM
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might be a little hard buddy.
didn't realize that was that way...
fixed... ;) lil buddy I like that!
RatedZeroHero
10-12-09, 11:42 PM
I cant recall if it is 5lbs or 10lbs of fat has the same volume as a loaf of bread...
it is a slow process... just think of it as you are the giant evil corporation and you are trying to fire very senior union labor types...
hell some of my fat cells were probably around during the Reagan Administration (I actually know many were...)
you cut your calories buy 800 or that is what you were living on? I am currently eating 3,761 calories per day... been doing that for a lil over a month and I have lost 5 lbs and havent started to rotate any calories out... I lost 5 lbs not gained... NO EXERCISE at all...
I totally agree with tracking what you eat... most people have no clue what they are putting in their body...
I'll be hitting 11 weeks of fat burn and I should lose 2-4 lbs per week... max is 44 lbs min is 22... either way I'll take it... and no working out involved (stupid Dr. I am sure he knows best but I miss riding....)
laters.
uberalles
10-13-09, 07:31 AM
i'm pretty good at monitoring what i've been eating... livestrong.com in the daily plate section is super helpful with logging intake
i'm not the same every day... but i'm between 1800-2200 a day intake
i tend to eat more on the weekends when i do put in a longer ride.....
i checked my scale last night and showed a 5lbs loss...which is great..
hooray me...
dr gave me a clean bill of health .. and blood work was good....blood pressure was 126/82 .. i could bring that down alittle, but it's easy to control
to speed up my metabolish i'll try to eat smaller meals more often....
i wasn't always this big (and by all means i'm not a slobby or gross) .. but i would like to get back to my pre injury weight or lower
the goal is under 200....
being older ... the body just takes longer to react, i just need to put in the time and not worry about the instant results
i know i feel better, i sleep better, the head is clear......all good things and things i will continue to improve on
dipy911
10-13-09, 01:04 PM
"fat burning" zone is crap too.
The body does burn a higher percentage of calories from fat in the 'fat burning zone' or at lower intensities. But, at higher intensities, you burn a greater number of overall calories which is what you should be concerned about when trying to lose weight.
http://exercise.about.com/cs/cardioworkouts/l/aa022601a.htm