Bicycle Mechanics - Will Someone Loan Me Park FFG-2 Dropout Tools?

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Squiggle Dog
10-15-09, 03:51 PM
I need to borrow a set of Park FFG-2 frame tools for aligning dropouts. I don't want to spend $80 on a set of tools I might never use again. Would someone be willing to ship them to me to loan? I will pay for shipping (98404) with PayPal. I can give you a deposit to keep until I return them if you like. I only need them for one day plus however long it takes for return shipping. Thanks!


Homebrew01
10-15-09, 03:54 PM
I would if I could find mine :( Been missing for a long time now.

Milice
10-15-09, 04:17 PM
local LBS dosent have them?


I_bRAD
10-15-09, 05:25 PM
Do you really think someone is going to go out of their way and loan tools to a stranger for nothing? second the lbs route.

operator
10-15-09, 05:30 PM
I need to borrow a set of Park FFG-2 frame tools for aligning dropouts. I don't want to spend $80 on a set of tools I might never use again. Would someone be willing to ship them to me to loan? I will pay for shipping (98404) with PayPal. I can give you a deposit to keep until I return them if you like. I only need them for one day plus however long it takes for return shipping. Thanks!

I will loan those to you if you give me up front shipping + MSRP of those tools.

Squiggle Dog
10-15-09, 05:39 PM
Someone on one of the other forums is going to loan me the tools. Thanks!

Q. "Do you really think someone is going to go out of their way and loan tools to a stranger for nothing? second the lbs route."

A. Yes. I have done the same for others in the past and see no problem with it. This is common practice on the vintage bike and Mercedes forums I go to. If someone is leery of sending them to me, I would have gladly paid the shipping and MSRP up front.

operator
10-15-09, 05:41 PM
Someone on one of the other forums is going to loan me the tools. Thanks!

Q. "Do you really think someone is going to go out of their way and loan tools to a stranger for nothing? second the lbs route."

A. Yes. I have done the same for others in the past and see no problem with it. This is common practice on the vintage bike and Mercedes forums I go to. If someone is leery of sending them to me, I would have gladly paid the shipping and MSRP up front.

By the way, the cost of shipping is going to be nearly equivlanet to or more than what an LBS will charge you to align dropouts with that tool.

Squiggle Dog
10-15-09, 05:58 PM
That's fine. I have to cold set the frame, check for alignment, etc., and I want to do this myself so I know it is done correctly (and I will probably be more careful). I worked at a bike shop for a few years, so I know how to do it properly.

Panthers007
10-15-09, 10:14 PM
One caveat: These tools won't work with aluminum or carbon frame/forks. And on some steel forks, like a Motobecane (old one - real one), they won't fit.

I have the Cyclus ones of these tools, which work great:

http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=180244260661&d=single&c=Tools&sc=Frame-and-Fork&tc=Dropout-Alignment-Tools&item_id=CU-011

So go talk to your LBS about it.

operator
10-15-09, 10:27 PM
One caveat: These tools won't work with aluminum or carbon frame/forks. And on some steel forks, like a Motobecane (old one - real one), they won't fit.

I have the Cyclus ones of these tools, which work great:

http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=180244260661&d=single&c=Tools&sc=Frame-and-Fork&tc=Dropout-Alignment-Tools&item_id=CU-011

So go talk to your LBS about it.

Uh. Why won't it work on AL/carbon frames?

Squiggle Dog
10-15-09, 10:28 PM
It's a steel 2008 Schwinn Cruiser 3 frame. The dropout tools are on their way.

Panthers007
10-15-09, 10:45 PM
The dropout, if carbon or aluminum, cant really be bent. They should be broken if they are bent already. That's no mystery. I have a carbon fork and there is no "neck" which indicates the fork and dropout are contiguous. Same goes for aluminum-forks I've seen - which I'd advise getting rid off and replace it with steel. Much nicer riding. And steel lends itself to cold-setting as well.

The larger mystery is why such entities as Motobecane made their dropouts too small to fit these FFG-type tools too. That discovery was a royal pain in the a$$. But it turned out that particular frame had been totaled anyway: T-boned by a car or truck. Took me awhile to figure out.