Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Knock-off B-43's with Tubes, Tires, and Shipping for Under $100

Anybody know anything about these new knockoff Deep V's that are listed on Ebay right now? I did an internet search and found nothing. Well, they look cool, but I wonder how durable they are? Any suggestions?

https://icatchdeals.trust-shield.com/media/catalog/product//d/b/dbww_main.JPG

Here is the link
http://cgi.ebay.com/Single-Speed-Track-Fixed-Gear-Deep-V-Wheelset-Wheels_W0QQitemZ180419252931QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCycling_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2a01d352c3

Oh yeah, and they come with both a fixed and freewheel cog!

The ad says that the rims are Tec9 Super Deep? Never heard of them

Seems fishy, but if not, they probably weigh 15 lbs.

Yeah, but in that case shipping would cost them at least 40 dollars. I can't imagine how they are turning a profit on these things regardless

Here is the black version. These look pretty cheaphttps://icatchdeals.trust-shield.com/media/catalog/product//d/v/dvwb_main.JPG

Quick release????

Yeah, $25 isn't far from it. But anyways, idk, they don't have a ton of ebay credibility, but thos wheels just look like really heavy knockoffs of velocity's. Probably would work just fine if you didn't care about how much your bike weighed.

Quick release????

Yes, the front has a quick release

They'd be good to help pimp out a beater single speed.

So i guess no one here has heard of any reviews on these?

Yes, the front has a quick release

i wish my front wheel had QR.

i see those all over ebay and CL but you know what they say... good things arent cheap and cheap things arent good?

i'd say just save up a little more and get something you can trust. plus a good set will be easy to sell when you change your mind.

The listing says they use tubular tires.

So there's that.

i see those all over ebay and CL but you know what they say... good things arent cheap and cheap things arent good?

i'd say just save up a little more and get something you can trust. plus a good set will be easy to sell when you change your mind.

Maybe, but I just want to know how they hold up. I know they are cheap (in price), but that does not necessarily mean they are cheap (in quality).

The listing says they use tubular tires.

So there's that.

Ha, I saw that too. That makes these wheels even more of a deal.

The listing says they use tubular tires.

So there's that.

Yeah something isn't adding up because the listing's title said they come with tubes and tires. If they came with sew-ups I think they would have included that in the description. A very cheap pair of sew-ups will run around $40 dollars a pair.

I guess if the wheels really run sew-ups they have the potential to be lighter than real B-43? Maybe? Come on, surely somebody here has bought a pair of these?

for a beater set, clinchers seem easier to maintain in terms of flat repairs. while tubulars, like everyone says, seems like a headache.

-1 for unknown wheel quality
-1 for tubular maintainence (mounting/gluing, repairs)
-1 tubular tires costing more than clinchers (vittoria zaffiros can be had for less than $15/each and are very reliable)

i don't know man, its your cash!

Why do they come with a freewheel when they don't have a braking surface? Why do they claim to be tubular and say they come with tires and tubes? These wheels make no sense.

Seems like this guy is pimping his own eBay store, looking at the "redirectingat.com" URL he used to link with, too...

edit: looks like BF does this redirectingat.com thing themselves, my bad - sorry OP!

I'm thinking the it's a misprint and they're actually clinchers, not tubular. With all the cheaper knockoffs out there these days like these Tec9's, the Eighthinch Julian, Vuelta Super Deep-V, etc... who knows how they compare to each other?

OP: Did the price change? Looks to me the item + shipping is roughly $125 (not $100). Just asking because these look super tempting for my SS beater.

it looks to me more like the person assumed tubular meant badass instead of what it really means.

http://www.cheavor.tv/wp-content/gallery/tech-n9ne/albumcover-techn9ne-everready.jpg

http://www.cheavor.tv/wp-content/gallery/tech-n9ne/albumcover-techn9ne-everready.jpg

Not the same Techn9ne. Funny though. Good point on the freewheel-the front wheel is not machined.

I wouldn't trust these for the rigors of fg riding, but for a ss they should hold up ok right? No machined sidewalls is an issue though. Since they look painted, I wonder how quickly the paint would wear off when used with brakes?

Why do they come with a freewheel when they don't have a braking surface? Why do they claim to be tubular and say they come with tires and tubes? These wheels make no sense.

Why does everyone think you need something special for brakes to work? One company machines their sidewall for "improved braking" and all of the sudden people go "z0mg you might as well be trying to stop on a banana peel through an oil slick over an ice patch" if you have one of the few rims that aren't machined anymore

my 1993 open 4 rims beg to differ...they have been stopping just fine since a lot of the deep-v buyers were born (of course lots of brake use eventually "machines" the rim for you). Hell, they used to have steel rims with CHROME braking surfaces...yeah they sucked in the rain but they stopped with decent pads.

So i guess no one here has heard of any reviews on these?

did you not look at his feedback?

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=ibikeparts&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true

only one nuetral, from damaged parts, wich got refunded.

Honestly, i'd rather get the Vuelta Pro V at $150

http://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_STOR20.cgi?Action=Details&ProdID=1232

or even the cheaper Zerolite's for $110 w/ similiarly meh quando hubs as the ebay listing.

Why does everyone think you need something special for brakes to work? One company machines their sidewall for "improved braking" and all of the sudden people go "z0mg you might as well be trying to stop on a banana peel through an oil slick over an ice patch" if you have one of the few rims that aren't machined anymore

my 1993 open 4 rims beg to differ...they have been stopping just fine since a lot of the deep-v buyers were born (of course lots of brake use eventually "machines" the rim for you). Hell, they used to have steel rims with CHROME braking surfaces...yeah they sucked in the rain but they stopped with decent pads.

Agreed. However, those don't even have a flat surface for the brakes to make contact with, so until your pads wear down to the shape of the rims you'll be braking on the corners of the pads. That's all I was getting at. They have that H+Son "Not even compatible with brakes, so man up, f-got!" kind of shape.

Hell, they used to have steel rims with CHROME braking surfaces...yeah they sucked in the rain but they stopped with decent pads.

They still run chrome plated rims on Bmx bikes. They work very well when then they are dry, but yeah they totally suck in the rain.

Does anyone here have a set though to tell us how they are and feel.

Front Hub: Asses Alloy
Do not want

Not the same Techn9ne. Funny though. Good point on the freewheel-the front wheel is not machined.

these wheels are riotmakers, that's if you don't know

The listing says they use tubular tires.

So there's that.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Single-Speed-Track-Fixed-Gear-Deep-V-Wheelset-Wheels_W0QQitemZ180422926902QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCycling_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2a020b6236

Clincher versions are for sale too.

They are cheap, have tires and cogs, and cost as much as a single H+Son rim.

Damn, Worst that can happen is the cog threads strip on the rear hub. As long as you keep the spokes tensioned, it will stay true. Since when has weight been an issue for FG anyways?

And for the clincher/tubular debate roaring. Do you really think they will have tubulars on such a cheap deal? It is more likely they made a mistake in the details.

I think these are worth it. They look deep, which is popular and are stupid cheap. Is such a deep rim with 36 spokes going to be weak?

They are cheap, have tires and cogs, and cost as much as a single H+Son rim.

Damn, Worst that can happen is the cog threads strip on the rear hub. As long as you keep the spokes tensioned, it will stay true. Since when has weight been an issue for FG anyways?

And for the clincher/tubular debate roaring. Do you really think they will have tubulars on such a cheap deal? It is more likely they made a mistake in the details.

I think these are worth it. They look deep, which is popular and are stupid cheap. Is such a deep rim with 36 spokes going to be weak?

Great point. I think I am going to give them a shot!

i saw these wheels for sale @ the dollar tree/chinese lead poisoning mart.

That has got to be the cheapest looking front hub I've seen in a loooooooong time. Like, everything I've found in the shop that looks like that is dated pre-1985. So, we're not talking like, 2009 cheap, but like, 1980 cheeeeeap. Wonder if that puts the wheels in perspective at all.

i emailed them and they said that the rims are clincher, they made a listing mistake.

I emailed someone who bought a pair off ebay.

They said they seemed ok. He is putting them on his conversion. Although he said the paint on the rims was a bit scratched.

I admit that I'm super curious now.

these guys have a website, and the rims are $115 with free shipping - http://www.bikepartsmart.com
i ordered the rims and the tec9 shorty 390mm riser bars (got free grips too) :)
i'll let you know how it turns out

Also, they're 42mm deep. No wheel weights though.

Did some research, and apparently these rear hubs are the worst thing ever made in the world ever.

Hubs are loose bearing, not sealed, so no thanks...

So whats the verdict on these rims? I wanted to pick up a set but now I'm debating if I should just save up and get velocity b43's.

I'm really confused on the popularity of the b43's. they are a poorly made copy of the h+son rims. They weigh in at an extra 150 grams each. That means the company put no time into actually researching how to make a better deep rim, they just made their already heavy deep v's deeper, and called the extra weight strength.

I have had h+son rims on my aluminum frame for 8 months, ridden up curbs, down curbs, across town on 30 psi, up mountain bike trails, with somebody on my handlebars, do whirly birds. The rims have handled everything I have thrown at them no problem. Perfectly true to this day with no spoke tensioning.

I bet you this rim is or the same quality of the b43's, probably a close weight, and if the hubs are that big a problem, you could buy a set of surely hubs and re-lace the wheels, and still only have paid $200. They sound like a pretty good deal on a cheap set of rims.

I'm really confused on the popularity of the b43's. they are a poorly made copy of the h+son rims. They weigh in at an extra 150 grams each. That means the company put no time into actually researching how to make a better deep rim, they just made their already heavy deep v's deeper, and called the extra weight strength.

I have had h+son rims on my aluminum frame for 8 months, ridden up curbs, down curbs, across town on 30 psi, up mountain bike trails, with somebody on my handlebars, do whirly birds. The rims have handled everything I have thrown at them no problem. Perfectly true to this day with no spoke tensioning.

I bet you this rim is or the same quality of the b43's, probably a close weight, and if the hubs are that big a problem, you could buy a set of surely hubs and re-lace the wheels, and still only have paid $200. They sound like a pretty good deal on a cheap set of rims.

They're triple walled for durability. Weight, it seems is not a consideration of B43s.