Cyclocross - Bent my road saddle - recommendations?

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xprmntlav8r
10-25-09, 04:40 PM
Let me be the first to admit that my mounting technique needs to be refined. Hey, I'm new at this. With that said, I've started out my cross career with a road Specialized Toupe Ti143 saddle that I had laying around. Twice now after my races I've discovered that the rails on this saddle have been bent from not so smooth mounts after barriers or a runup.

So I'm in the market for a saddle that can handle the abuse that I plan on dishing out. I fear that the road saddle has no business being on a cross bike. Can anyone suggest a saddle that is more robust? Are titanium rails a help or hindrance? For reference, I'm 5'11" and 175 pounds.

A friend, who's 205 pounds, rides a Fizik Gobi. That's one that I'll look at, but what are your thoughts?

I promise to get better at the mounts but in the mean time...


Andy_K
10-25-09, 05:02 PM
I'm surprised. I wouldn't have expected you to have problems like that. I guess they made the rails thin to get the weight down?

I've raced with a Specialized Avatar, Specialized Phenom and WTB Rocket V Comp. (I'm 5'9" and 185 pounds.) Of these, I'd have to recommend the WTB because it doesn't have a notch on the back to snag your shorts on. For non-cross riding, I like the Phenom.

availpunk9
10-25-09, 05:03 PM
Also bent up my Toupe 143. I got the dealer to warranty it, sold it, and bought a 143 Phenom SL. It's the same shape as the Toupe, just a bit heavier ~20-25g. It has a bit more padding; I find it more comfortable than a Toupe.


jtgotsjets
10-25-09, 05:05 PM
i alternately ride (not race) a brooks knock-off and a turbo knock-off. I would have no issue bashing them into the wall—very sturdy.

Raiden
10-25-09, 06:37 PM
I recently broke my Selle Arione with a flying mount- Its rideable again thanks to Gorilla tape and epoxy, but jtgotsjets' has me thinking an old generic saddle and seatpost would be nice to have for practice and races....

shapelike
10-25-09, 07:07 PM
I've been really happy with my Fizik Aliante - first season on it this year and I think it'll be on next year's mountain bike as well.

jonestr
10-26-09, 10:37 AM
Is your saddle mounted in the middle of the rails or is it pushed to an extreme front or back position?

jtgotsjets
10-26-09, 11:41 AM
I recently broke my Selle Arione with a flying mount- Its rideable again thanks to Gorilla tape and epoxy, but jtgotsjets' has me thinking an old generic saddle and seatpost would be nice to have for practice and races....

I'm pretty sure my Vetta turbo knockoff is going to last forever. Time will tell on the Brooks knockoff, but they were both made in a time when saddles were not a place for shaving weight. Very big, rugged, and comfy to boot!

Definitely not the lightest solution, but then this isn't the road forum. I've never minded a little extra weight on my bike (though I stress again, I don't race... maybe next year)--my first adult bike was a steel 1980s Schwinn Cruiser with rear derailleur setup, steel fenders, rear rack and milk crate. Pretty much everything I've ridden since then has been a huge step down. :lol:

Brian Ratliff
10-26-09, 04:05 PM
I had the same thing happen to a Selle Italia SLR gelflow saddle. I traded it out for a cheap OEM takeoff saddle I had lying around my garage which looked a little sturdier. I only have to ride it for 45 minutes or an hour at a time, so saddle comfort isn't a big deal. And if I bend this one up, I don't really care.

xprmntlav8r
10-27-09, 07:10 AM
it's mounted pretty much to the middle. The first time that it bent it was more to the rear. After straightening it I remounted the seat more towards the middle. The bending this time was more to the front. I'm afraid that I can't bend this seat back again as it looks like a crack has begun to form in one of the rails. I've ordered a WTB saddle. Hope that this one is more robust. I'll let you know how it goes.


Is your saddle mounted in the middle of the rails or is it pushed to an extreme front or back position?

jfmckenna
10-27-09, 08:08 AM
I like WTB saddles but any saddle will distort under a heavy load. Just don't ever think about getting a carbon rail saddle ;)

merlin55
10-27-09, 03:48 PM
Ti rails are one half as stiff as steel rails, thus they bend....find a less expensive saddle with steel rails

xprmntlav8r
11-03-09, 11:08 PM
Went with the WTB Silverado Pro Race SL. It has Cr/Mo rails (not Ti) and was $45 on eBay. It's weathered a first race with no apparent damage (bending). My mounts are getting better and this saddle adds to this confidence since it has significantly more cush than the road saddle that bent. With this extra padding the impact forces, to both me and the saddle rails, is very much reduced. I think that I'm going to be real happy with this saddle.

Big T
11-06-09, 01:00 PM
I bent my Toupe also - sounds like a recurring theme. I put it on my cross bike in September when I was starting to practice remounts again. Guess I wasn't so um, graceful the first few days. Too bad, it was sooo much lighter than the stock saddle on my Fuji. The Toupe was just not comfortable enough for the road bike though.