Classic and Vintage Bicycles: What's it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries - Estimated Value for this Specialized??

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brs86
11-10-09, 09:37 AM
I am new to the forums and looking for any estimated on the value of a bike. Also, not sure if this is the appropriate section of the forums for this question, but I will start here...

The bike at question is as follows:

2006 Specialized Allez Sport

Bike is in fair condition, Aluminum frame with carbon seatpost and fork. The bike needs some work like wheels trued, new tires etc… Comes with 2 aluminum water bottle cages.

Frame: Aluminum
Fork: Specialized Carbon
Shifters: Shimano Tiagra
Front Derailleur: Shimano Tiagra
Rear Derailleur: Shimano 105
Crankset: Specialized triple: 52, 42, 30
Cassette: Shimano 105
Bars: 40"
Wheels: Alloy Rims with clincher tires
Saddle: Specialized alias 143
Seatpost: Carbon
Stem: Salsa

Anybody want to help me out by giving me a general price this bike is worth/go for at auction? I am thinking of buying the bike and do not want to overpay. I appreciate any help, thanks in advance.


exRunner
11-10-09, 09:45 AM
New the bike cost about $1100.

I would probably offer $550 or $600, depending on the condition of the cassette and wheels.

rothenfield1
11-10-09, 09:58 AM
Wow! Do you 2 know each other? How many people could there be on an "island"?

I agree with that assessment. You might want to have the post moved to the C&V appraisals thread. They usually evaluate older bikes, but, you'll get more eyes on your post there.


HillRider
11-10-09, 10:08 AM
New the bike cost about $1100.

I would probably offer $550 or $600, depending on the condition of the cassette and wheels.
I wouldn't offer anywhere near that. The seller's description says "Bike is in fair condition...". To me that means it's quite rough and the fact the wheels are out of true says it's been ridden hard and put up wet more than once. I's cerainly want to know the condition of the frame, crank and derailleurs as well as the chain and cassette.

I'd definitely want to see it before offering anything but it sounds pretty well beat up to me.

rydaddy
11-10-09, 10:08 AM
I wouldn't pay over $500, assuming it's in good shape. That's the sport model. They went for much less than $1100 when new. More like $750+/- brand new.

rothenfield1
11-10-09, 10:33 AM
I wouldn't pay over $500, assuming it's in good shape. That's the sport model. They went for much less than $1100 when new. More like $750+/- brand new.

Ya. Your probably right. I didn't see the part about the rundown condition. Still, the A1 frame isn't bad. The Tiagra group is below mid-range however. I have a 99 Allez Sport that I put Ultegra 10spd on. It's in great shape, but I probably wouldn't get 650 for it.

Here's what Bikepedia says: suggested retail-$930.

http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/BikeSpecs.aspx?Year=2006&Brand=Specialized&Model=Allez%20Sport%20Triple&Type=bike

operator
11-10-09, 10:34 AM
I am new to the forums and looking for any estimated on the value of a bike. Also, not sure if this is the appropriate section of the forums for this question, but I will start here...

The bike at question is as follows:

2006 Specialized Allez Sport

Bike is in fair condition, Aluminum frame with carbon seatpost and fork. The bike needs some work like wheels trued, new tires etc… Comes with 2 aluminum water bottle cages.

Frame: Aluminum
Fork: Specialized Carbon
Shifters: Shimano Tiagra
Front Derailleur: Shimano Tiagra
Rear Derailleur: Shimano 105
Crankset: Specialized triple: 52, 42, 30
Cassette: Shimano 105
Bars: 40"
Wheels: Alloy Rims with clincher tires
Saddle: Specialized alias 143
Seatpost: Carbon
Stem: Salsa

Anybody want to help me out by giving me a general price this bike is worth/go for at auction? I am thinking of buying the bike and do not want to overpay. I appreciate any help, thanks in advance.

Impossible to say without seeing the bike. Maximum is 50% of the MSRP. It's a cheap, entry level bike.

brs86
11-10-09, 10:43 AM
[QUOTE=rothenfield1;10014755]Wow! Do you 2 know each other? How many people could there be on an "island"?

I am not sure if that was sarcastic or not lol. As a reference, Long Island (Queens and Brooklyn included as they are part of the island technically) has an estimated 7.7 million residents. If it were a state, it would be the 12th most populated in the United States (more than Washington, Arizona, or Massachusetts). More people live on Long Island than Jamaica and Ireland. Without the two buroughs included, between two counties, nearly 3 million people. I know that was a bit much, but I was a history major with a concentration in NYC/Long Island History and felt obligated to inform.

As for the Specialized, I will also post a section in the forum you mentioned. I appreciate the response.

brs86
11-10-09, 10:46 AM
The problem is the bike is an auction and I would not be able to personally view the bike before bidding. There is one photo of the bike and it is hard to tell the exact condition of the cassette or tires. The person mentioned the bike needing the rims trued and new tubes/tires. Other than that, no other issues mentioned.

rydaddy
11-10-09, 10:47 AM
Here's what Bikepedia says: suggested retail-$930.

http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/BikeSpecs.aspx?Year=2006&Brand=Specialized&Model=Allez%20Sport%20Triple&Type=bike


For some reason, I thought the Sport model was the lowest. Guess it's just the 'Allez Double' and the Sport is slightly better.

brs86
11-10-09, 10:47 AM
I am new to the forums and looking for any estimated on the value of a bike. Also, not sure if this is the appropriate section of the forums for this question, but I will start here...

The bike at question is as follows:

2006 Specialized Allez Sport

Bike is in fair condition, Aluminum frame with carbon seatpost and fork. The bike needs some work like wheels trued, new tires etc… Comes with 2 aluminum water bottle cages.

Frame: Aluminum
Fork: Specialized Carbon
Shifters: Shimano Tiagra
Front Derailleur: Shimano Tiagra
Rear Derailleur: Shimano 105
Crankset: Specialized triple: 52, 42, 30
Cassette: Shimano 105
Bars: 40"
Wheels: Alloy Rims with clincher tires
Saddle: Specialized alias 143
Seatpost: Carbon
Stem: Salsa

Anybody want to help me out by giving me a general price this bike is worth/go for at auction? I am thinking of buying the bike and do not want to overpay. I appreciate any help, thanks in advance.

exRunner
11-10-09, 11:12 AM
[QUOTE=rothenfield1;10014755]Wow! Do you 2 know each other? How many people could there be on an "island"?

I am not sure if that was sarcastic or not lol. As a reference, Long Island (Queens and Brooklyn included as they are part of the island technically) has an estimated 7.7 million residents. If it were a state, it would be the 12th most populated in the United States (more than Washington, Arizona, or Massachusetts). More people live on Long Island than Jamaica and Ireland. Without the two buroughs included, between two counties, nearly 3 million people. I know that was a bit much, but I was a history major with a concentration in NYC/Long Island History and felt obligated to inform.

I didn't catch the poor condition and the Tiagra when I first read it. For some reason I thought 2006 was all 105.

As for the Island, I am not a native, my job brought me here. I grew up South of Chicago.

EjustE
11-10-09, 11:15 AM
I think that you would probably have more success in the road forum with this, since it is a pretty recent bike.

wrk101
11-10-09, 11:45 AM
Depends on how much work is required. In pristine, ready to ride condition, around $400 to $450 max. Deduct for any needed work, and deduct if you have to pay shipping or a buyers premium at an in person auction.

"Bike is in fair condition". Could you elaborate? Fair condition could mean the value is closer to $200. Around here, fair condition means close to "poor" condition.

Al1943
11-10-09, 12:10 PM
My first concern would be the fit. Will the bike fit you? I believe Specialized still measures their bikes c-c, most of the competition is c-t. That can make a huge difference. My son's 52 cm Alize had the same standover height as my 56 cm 5500 Trek, but the Alize top tube length was much less than the Trek's.

I would not bid over $400.

brs86
11-10-09, 01:17 PM
The bike is an online auction and the "fair condition" was given by the seller. I am not able to get a close look at the bike.

brs86
11-10-09, 01:32 PM
My first concern would be the fit. Will the bike fit you? I believe Specialized still measures their bikes c-c, most of the competition is c-t. That can make a huge difference. My son's 52 cm Alize had the same standover height as my 56 cm 5500 Trek, but the Alize top tube length was much less than the Trek's.

That is a very good point, the bike is a 58cm, which I ride currently. If anyone has additional imput on the sizing issue of Specialized, I would appreciate that also. Would a Specialized 58cm fit a typical 58cm rider?

LarDasse74
11-10-09, 01:47 PM
The problem is the bike is an auction and I would not be able to personally view the bike before bidding. There is one photo of the bike and it is hard to tell the exact condition of the cassette or tires. The person mentioned the bike needing the rims trued and new tubes/tires. Other than that, no other issues mentioned.

I think if it were in very good condition $500... but since there are unknowns, assume they need replacement...

New wheels (if seller says they need 'truing' then they very well might need replacement, or new spokes or have dented rim) would be $150 at least,
New chain and cassette (to get teh drivetrain in very good working order) $70
New cables, bar tape, tires - so it feels and rides as good as possible - $60

By my estimation, if you can get this bike for less than $225 then you are likely getting a good deal... any more than that and you are taking a chance... although it might pay off if the above mentioned things are actually in not-tto-bad condition.

What size is the bike and what size of bike is ideal for you?

brs86
11-10-09, 01:54 PM
What size is the bike and what size of bike is ideal for you?

The bike at question is a 58cm. I ride a 58cm currently, but never a Specialized.

LarDasse74
11-10-09, 01:57 PM
The bike at question is a 58cm. I ride a 58cm currently, but never a Specialized.

If you measure the top tube, stem, and head tube of your current bike, compare it with the published geometry on the SPecialized site, and consider what you do like or not like about your current bike you can get a good idea of how suitable the Spec. is for you.

miamijim
11-10-09, 02:06 PM
30-40% of MSRP. Max.

brs86
11-10-09, 02:19 PM
The seller says there is no frame/fork damage or cracks on any of the parts. They do say that the tires/tubes and rims need to be trued. Other than that they mention that the cassette/chain may need to be replaced sometime soon. How much would those pieces cost me to replace/fix on this bike?

brs86
11-10-09, 02:20 PM
The seller says there is no frame/fork damage or cracks on any of the parts. They do say that the tires/tubes and rims need to be trued. Other than that they mention that the cassette/chain may need to be replaced sometime soon. How much would those pieces cost me to replace/fix on this bike?

EjustE
11-10-09, 02:26 PM
The seller says there is no frame/fork damage or cracks on any of the parts. They do say that the tires/tubes and rims need to be trued. Other than that they mention that the cassette/chain may need to be replaced sometime soon. How much would those pieces cost me to replace/fix on this bike?

truing rims: $50+ parts if needed
chain: $25 (new Shimano 105)
Cassette: $55 (new Shimano 105 9 gear)
+ labor to replace the chain and cassette

LarDasse74
11-10-09, 02:36 PM
The seller says there is no frame/fork damage or cracks on any of the parts. They do say that the tires/tubes and rims need to be trued. Other than that they mention that the cassette/chain may need to be replaced sometime soon. How much would those pieces cost me to replace/fix on this bike?

See my post #14 above...

Truing wheels can cost between $10 each (for very minor spoke tension adjustments) to $40 for complete retensioning, to $100 or more for rim and spoke replacement.

wrk101
11-10-09, 03:37 PM
The seller says there is no frame/fork damage or cracks on any of the parts. They do say that the tires/tubes and rims need to be trued. Other than that they mention that the cassette/chain may need to be replaced sometime soon. How much would those pieces cost me to replace/fix on this bike?
Sellers rarely if ever understand the true condition of the bike they are selling. I would treat any such information as suspect, and make my own conclusions. As a pure auction, I would look for a smokin' hot deal, as you are buying with the chance (strong chance) that there are more mechanical issues than you can identify. Myself, I would bid $175 max.

I would rather pay more buying directly from an individual where I can take the bike for a test ride, make sure it fits, etc.

rothenfield1
11-10-09, 08:44 PM
Sellers rarely if ever understand the true condition of the bike they are selling. I would treat any such information as suspect, and make my own conclusions. As a pure auction, I would look for a smokin' hot deal, as you are buying with the chance (strong chance) that there are more mechanical issues than you can identify. Myself, I would bid $175 max.

I would rather pay more buying directly from an individual where I can take the bike for a test ride, make sure it fits, etc.

It sounds like you've gotten some pretty good responses from this thread. I'm just a novice, but I follow this forum enough to know that some of the posts are from people who buy, build, and sell bikes all the time. However, I empathize with the person who has found a bike that they would really, really like to own and ride. The prices that you have read are the best evaluation of what the bike is "worth". But, it may be worth more to you.

The A1 premium aluminum frame is considered a good frame. The Tiagra components are entry level, but no bad stuff. This bike is only 3 years old. The frame alone could get 150-200 on the West Coast. But this is Specialized country.

As far as the frame sizing. Specialized went to a compact frame design with the sloped top tube in about 02, I think. Since road bikes are sized by their seat tube length, Specialized didn't want to confuse the public, so they kept the sizing the same as an equivalent bike with flat top tube. If you go to the Specialized sight, you'll see an explanation. Therefore, the 58cm on the bike your looking at is the same as the 58 your used to even though the seat tube may in fact be only 54, for example.

rothenfield1
11-10-09, 08:52 PM
Oh H*LL, why not.

99 Allez Sport
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww1/rothenfield/P1010825.jpg

wrk101
11-10-09, 09:07 PM
+1 Ultimately, the bike is worth whatever it is worth to you, not to us. So if you really like it and it fits, bid the amount your budget allows.

RobbieTunes
11-10-09, 10:04 PM
$400 tops, probably needs $150 worth of work, plus a lot of cleanup labor.

$700 can get you an Ultegra Litespeed in this venue. Big jump over that Spec.

EjustE
11-10-09, 10:14 PM
Oh H*LL, why not.

99 Allez Sport
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww1/rothenfield/P1010825.jpg

are those 650 wheels? Or (most likely) that is a big frame?

rothenfield1
11-11-09, 08:58 AM
For some reason this photo makes the bike look a little bigger than it is. However, you are correct if your implying the bike may be a tad big for me. Note: the seatpost & stem. For the record; 60cm ctc seat tube, more importantly, 58 ctc top tube.

cudak888
11-11-09, 12:56 PM
This isn't C&V, and it doesn't belong in this subforum.

-Kurt

rothenfield1
11-11-09, 09:21 PM
This isn't C&V, and it doesn't belong in this subforum.

-Kurt

The forum moved this thread here at the OPs request. I agree though, should be on the road bike forum.

miamijim
11-12-09, 06:03 AM
The forum moved this thread here at the OPs request. I agree though, should be on the road bike forum.

Threads like this are 'beyond' the RC crowd.......

rothenfield1
11-12-09, 08:11 PM
This has gone on too long and I shouldn't have posted that pic. Maybe RC should have an appraisal sub-forum for more modern bikes.

cudak888
11-12-09, 10:47 PM
This has gone on too long and I shouldn't have posted that pic. Maybe RC should have an appraisal sub-forum for more modern bikes.

Precisely what I was considering to suggest. It's become ridiculous how this forum is used as a wastebasket for any value threads posted in virtually any section of Bikeforums.

-Kurt

iam7head
11-15-09, 03:18 PM
almost gotten one(05) locally for 400, but i am in socal, so the price is already high, you can do much better with that now