Road Cycling - Park "Glueless" Patches

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Grampy™
08-03-04, 06:58 PM
Anybody tried these? In the past I've always used the type that you have to apply glue. These peel and stick patches look just to darn easy! Do they hold up? I'm the type to patch a tube several times before replacing the tube. Do the glueless patches hold up for months/years?
I just started using them instead o the glued kind. I haven't had any problems yet. I've got a patch that's been on for a couple of months now. The nice thing about the glueless patches is there's no thump-thump-thump like I sometimes feel with the thicker glued-on kind. They are certainly a lot quicker to install for on-the-road repairs.
Anybody tried these? In the past I've always used the type that you have to apply glue. These peel and stick patches look just to darn easy! Do they hold up? I'm the type to patch a tube several times before replacing the tube. Do the glueless patches hold up for months/years?
I've used them many times on mtb tubes. They last as long as the glued version; however, the one drawback I found (don't ask) is that they do not work well when the temps drop. The glueless patches just don't adhere as well when the temp hits the 40s. Understand that patches that are already on the tube are fine, but strapping on a glueless patch in the cold is no fun, and may not work @ all.
Get the park glueless patches. When it's humid out, the generic ones I got from performance didn't do squat, they stuck but they didn't bond and only relied on the pressure pressing the sticker against the tire to hold. When I came home, they still had a slow leak but the park patch actually bonded.
raanders
08-03-04, 08:16 PM
I've been riding on a Park patched tube for about a month. It's summer heat season here too.
They really are "darn easy". I still carry an extra tube around though. Not for lack of confidence in the patches, but rather incase I sustain more significant damage that may not be "patch" appropriate.
Scooby Snax
08-03-04, 08:26 PM
I've also learned, dont let them get wet, and that little plastic box they come from is not water proof!
otherwise, easy peasy squeezy!!
You can't get any patch wet-glue or glueless and expect it to work. I've used the Park glueless patches now for about 5 years without any problems. One of my tubes I currently am using and used for the last 3 years has 2 glueless patches on them and they have never failed, and this is riding them from extreme heat of summer in the Mojave desert (over 100 degrees) to below freezing in the winter.
By the way regular glue on type like Remo (right name? haven't used them in a long time) patches are very thin and never thump when you ride on them; I used those for at least 20 years before switching to glueless.
I like glueless primarily because you eliminate the glue and dry time and no worries about finding a dried up glue tube when you need it.
But always carry a spare tube just in case; I go even further and carry a spare ultralight racing tire in the seat bag, but I ride in remote areas and don't want to get stuck out in no mans land with a long walk ahead of me.
My girlfriend has a 3 year old Park patch on her front tire as we speak.
bmw_maniac
08-04-04, 03:23 AM
Yeap I use them. I find them great. Just a note, I was warming up for one of my most important races last year on the wind trainer. They call my number, I jump off the bike, whip it out of the trainer, and hello?? Flat tyre!! :eek: In the end I borrowed someone elses bike (carbon as opposed to my low-end aluminum :D ) and did the TT on that (albeit a few sizes too small)
When I was changing the flat later on, I noticed that the patches had shrivelled up. WARNING!! heat generated by wind-trainers will melt these park glueless patches! I know, I found out the hard way! :rolleyes:
Apart from that, they are a great patch.
JohnnyTheFox
08-04-04, 04:23 AM
I've also learned, dont let them get wet, and that little plastic box they come from is not water proof!
otherwise, easy peasy squeezy!!
Yeah, I've had a few packs go in the wash. The odd patch survives tho :) I've had them on tubes for nearly a year sometimes and theyve never came off before I replaced the tube.
threadend
08-04-04, 04:49 AM
Use em & love em. I think they are more susceptible to failure in long term applications resulting from repeated deflating and inflating of the tube for flat repairs, tire changes, etc...
My LBS guy just rolls his eyes when I ask him to order them for me :)
I like doing the repairs too- I usually care a couple of spare tubes and change them in when I get a flat. Then when I get home, I'll inspect for damage and repair.
Koffee
Velo Dog
08-04-04, 09:43 AM
Exactly half the glueless patches I've applied have failed within a few minutes. It's a small sample--somebody gave me a patch kit and it sounded cool--but three out of the six leaked.
By contrast, my failure rate with conventional patches is ONE (that I can remember) out of perhaps 150 in 30 years of riding.
They work great. No hassle, just as long as you get the backing off cleanly without accidently folding the patch onto itself.
Da Tinker
08-04-04, 12:16 PM
Parks worked great for me, when I ran 23 mm tires at 110 - 120 psi. When I started running 25 mm tires at 90 - 100 psi, they would only hold for 40 - 60 miles.
And I'm not sure why.
qmsdc15
08-04-04, 08:54 PM
They don't work for me! Maybe I'm not skilled enough to put it on right? Rubber tube, rubber patch, rubber cement. That works for me, makes the tube stronger than new, though heavier.
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