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sknhgy
11-24-09, 09:02 AM
The potential employers asks, "what are your salary requirements?"
I currently have a very stressful teaching job that pays mid 40's. I have BA and MS degrees.
I've been in contact with a potential employer. The new job requires technical skill and a fair amount of responsibility. It's not a teaching job.
It would be like a skilled lab technician.
I could live on less money.
Any thoughts?


ModoVincere
11-24-09, 09:06 AM
Do a little research...find out what kind of pay that job offers in your area....then go for the upper end of that range, if its an acceptable amount to you.

KingTermite
11-24-09, 09:25 AM
Always shoot a little higher than what you think is reasonable and may be the offer.

1. You may actually get it, and then you get a better salary than expected.
2. If they don't offer you that, there is wiggle room to go down to what you do want/expect.


leob1
11-24-09, 09:41 AM
Tricky question, you don't want to low ball and look like a putz, and you don't want to price yoursefl out of a job. And the rule of thumb is that the first person that mentions a number loses. Take a look at some of the job search sites for something similar, that should give you a range of what the job pays. Always give a range, not an exact figure. If you are using a third party, like a recuiter, DO NOT discuss money with the employer. If they ask, put the blame on the recruiter, "They would prefer to handle that". The employer has heard that before, and will usually accept that for an answer. Besides, that is the recruiters job, they will get you more money. And if you get an offer, and it is at the low part of your range, ask for more, like the middle of your range. The worst that can happen is they say no. My wife did that, and got 5k more a year, the manager said she was the only person that ever asked for more than the offer!
Good Luck.

UnsafeAlpine
11-24-09, 09:44 AM
Put some crazy low number, like 13 dollars a year. Then, in the interview, tell them you would like closer to 7 mil a year. it'll keep them guessing and be fun for you!

gitarzan
11-24-09, 01:08 PM
The potential employers asks, "what are your salary requirements?"

Any thoughts?

Not that I have ever been accused of having thoughts...

Tell them you need enough to finish your whole body tattoo.

chipcom
11-24-09, 01:20 PM
well sir, if you can satisfy my booze, broads and blow habit, I can work for free

Jerseysbest
11-24-09, 02:50 PM
My current job required me to relocate about 4 hours away, but was definitely a step up from what I was doing, so I blurt out 50% more than what I'm making now and they agreed. Bah, who'd a thought. Shoulda asked for more, right?

I'm in the process of getting another job. Not really for more money, but the job is a more aligned to what I want with a more reputable place.

When they ask my salary requirements, I blurt out a number about 15% more than I make now (from what I'm told, a good percentage to ask for when "unwilling" changing jobs), and they counter with an offer of 1% more.
Yikes. I counter with "gee, thats only ONE PERCENT more than I'm making, I might as well stay where I'm at" and they bump me up about 9% from my current salary. Deal.


well sir, if you can satisfy my booze, broads and blow habit, I can work for free

+1

kmg
11-24-09, 03:37 PM
I always put 'negotiable' down for salary requirements, especially on applications. If it is asked by the interviewer during an interview, I explain that I can only provide a salary amount after I have completed my evaluation of the company, gathered all the benefits information, including healthcare costs, etc. I say something similar in cover letters when salary requirements are expected. Putting a $$ figure down on an application or cover letter is just shooting yourself in the foot. Salary can be worked out at the final stages after they offer you the job. If they absolutely require to know what I'm making, I provide them with the amount and a brief explanation of benefits.

Alfster
11-24-09, 04:54 PM
I always put 'negotiable' down for salary requirements, especially on applications. If it is asked by the interviewer during an interview, I explain that I can only provide a salary amount after I have completed my evaluation of the company, gathered all the benefits information, including healthcare costs, etc. I say something similar in cover letters when salary requirements are expected. Putting a $$ figure down on an application or cover letter is just shooting yourself in the foot. Salary can be worked out at the final stages after they offer you the job. If they absolutely require to know what I'm making, I provide them with the amount and a brief explanation of benefits.

I wouldn't consider locking myself into a specific salary until I've gone through the interviewing process and fully understood the requirements of the job. I would think the employer would see this as a positive rather than a negative that you'd want to ask questions first prior to committing to a salary. In my workplace, every position has a salary range. Once the person has been accepted as a qualified, and with the right social skill-set to do the job, he/she is offered the position with a suggested salary. That's when the negotiations start, not during the job application stage.

mlts22
11-25-09, 05:52 AM
I always put "depending on benefits". Health insurance is a lot of cash, so the difference between having it versus not can mean more than $5000 a year.

Wilbur Bud
11-25-09, 07:19 AM
I would avoid a number. If a blank is unacceptable, then put something about wanting to understand better the responsiblities and requirements of the position so that you can match your strengths to immediate impacts while tempering learning and new duties with long term benefits that will develop for the company due to your work. The short way to write that is "negotiable" as mentioned above, but if you have any way to write that so that it talks more to the position and company and beneficial effects of employing you and less to your greed and avarice, it comes across as more interesting from the hiring side of the table.

bobfromwaco
11-25-09, 08:42 AM
I always tell them it's negotiable.