Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - skid spots on a SS

are skid spots as important on a single speed as they area fixed? right now im running a 48/18 setup and wanted to change to a 48/16 which only has one skid spot. but since im not really skidding will this effect my tires very much?

considering you can't 'skid' on a ss i'd say it doesn't really matter. you can lock up the rear wheel with the rear brake (you should have one on a single speed) but thats kinda counter productive. just use your front brake and for your sake id recommend never coming back to this thread again.

just use your front brake and for your sake id recommend never coming back to this thread again.

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To actually answer the question, no the gear ratio does not matter, because the pedal rotation is not fixed to the tire rotation. I do notice on my polo bike that certain spots wear down more, but I'm not sure why. Perhaps the tire tends to drag longer on spots that are already worn down.

handsomeryan, what part of laurel are you in? i graduated from LHS, is laurel mall still the hood?

I do notice on my polo bike that certain spots wear down more, but I'm not sure why. .

There's probably a spot on your rim that the brake pads grab better than the rest of the rim. Could be from a dent or something.

considering you can't 'skid' on a ss i'd say it doesn't really matter. you can lock up the rear wheel with the rear brake (you should have one on a single speed) but thats kinda counter productive. just use your front brake and for your sake id recommend never coming back to this thread again.

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To actually answer the question, no the gear ratio does not matter, because the pedal rotation is not fixed to the tire rotation. I do notice on my polo bike that certain spots wear down more, but I'm not sure why. Perhaps the tire tends to drag longer on spots that are already worn down.

thanks for an actual answer

You're an *******. I'm just trying to learn.

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considering you can't 'skid' on a ss i'd say it doesn't really matter. you can lock up the rear wheel with the rear brake

Skid = tire sliding across pavement. Yes, you can skid on a non FG SS using the brake, and depending on the situation, hardly counter productive.

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Skid = tire sliding across pavement. Yes, you can skid on a non FG SS using the brake, and depending on the situation, hardly counter productive.

i was just simply stating the front brake will be way better than locking up the rear wheel. and i've yet to come across the situation where i need to lock up the rear brake. i prefer to stop in the shortest distance possible. in what situations are you talking about? im curious. (no sarcasm)

Hello, my name is Traffic Jammer and I'm an ******* too.


You were also stating:

considering you can't 'skid' on a ss i'd say it doesn't really matter.
This is wrong. A skid is a skid regardless of how it is actuated.

Locking up the back wheel to toss it out/scrub speed to crave around a car bumper in traffic (sometimes stopping is simply not an option) unlock when the back is at the correct angle and attack with mucho gusto. Bad for the wheel but dagnabit fun as hell in heavy traffic. The look of horror from people in cars around you is a bonus. Racing down a spiral parking garage access ramp is a great opportunity to see just how good you are on the back wheel. Sometimes you just have to drift the corner, moto style (inside foot hovering just off the ground) depending on how much speed you're carryin'. Skids, not just for stopping. The front brake is great indeed, but I prefer both front and back in unison with varying degrees of 'on' depending on conditions. Never touch the front brake in the ice and snow = fall down go boom I find I have more control over everything on a SS in traffic than on a FG, might be why I'm generally faster, because I can draft the cars and what not alot more safely than on a FG , feathering the rear brake to control speed.


i've yet to come across the situation where i need to lock up the rear brake. Seriously? You're kidding right?

Big "scene" in the 703 is there?

You'll want to switch to courtesyforums.net if dbgray's answer was too mean.

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another question-
my bike has vertical dropouts, and the chain is about perfect with the 18t in back, will the 16t be that much smaller that it would effect the chain size that much and have it be to lose?

It will be smaller obviously. If the tension and wheel position are killer right now, look for a half link. This will shorten your chain ever so slightly. Concentric BB's or hubs work too if you have too much money, but apply the KISS principle and you generally can't go wrong. When in doubt ask your trusted wrench, if you don't have one .... find one....and bring beer.

will do, thanks

i don't know what you mean by 'scene', but im pretty sure there isn't one in my part of virginia. i just use my bike to go to work and back. but for me, brake pad cartridges are way cheaper than my tires. but i see what you are saying though...

Concentric BB's or hubs work too if you have too much money, but apply the KISS principle and you generally can't go wrong.

i believe the word you are looking for is eccentric. concentric is when two objects share an axis (a normal hub/bb) and eccentrics are not for people with too much money. they are for people that want safe and proper chain tension. there is a reason why tandems use eccentric bottom brackets. chainrings are not perfect and chains stretch...

if your just running a single speed get a chain tensioner. they are cheap, easy, care free, and let you change sprockets at will.

Last time I switched from 18 to 16 tooth cog I had to remove two links from my chain.

^^^Seriously two whole links?^^^
Wow, then OP you might just need to remove a couple links, bonus.

Eccentric indeed I stand corrected. With an SS the tension is not as critical an issue as with a FG obviously and thus my last choice when messing around with tension is messin' with the BB. You're speaking of a dropout hanger mounted tensioner on the road style frame? I have one on my SS MTB, but just don't like 'em on the road SS. As it I want to get rid of the tensioner on the MTB, BUT.... it's gotta stay for the time being.

I meant scene as in the explosion of the SS/FG we've seen over the last bunch of years, and your scene ... is, specific to your area. :lol: I too burn through many more brake pads than tires.

^^^Seriously two whole links?^^^
Wow, then OP you might just need to remove a couple links, bonus.

Eccentric indeed I stand corrected. With an SS the tension is not as critical an issue as with a FG obviously and thus my last choice when messing around with tension is messin' with the BB. You're speaking of a dropout hanger mounted tensioner on the road style frame? I have one on my SS MTB, but just don't like 'em on the road SS. As it I want to get rid of the tensioner on the MTB, BUT.... it's gotta stay for the time being.

ive got an eccentric hub on my fixed gear and its actually really simple to set (and there is no way to install the wheel crooked)

yeah i was referring to a derailer hanger mounted tensioner. i'm assuming his bike has a hanger (vertical dropout) i agree they are not the best looking but there is something to be said with the reliability and simplicity of it. just put the wheel in and go!

i do agree that tension is not as critical on a single speed though so a half link may be "close enough"

i think i'm going to mess around with chain length, i do have a tensioner but i don't really want to use it unless i really need to. i didn't think it would be two lengths but ill try that first

You have NEW chain pins yes?

im going to let my local bike shop do it, so they should have them

I meant scene as in the explosion of the SS/FG we've seen over the last bunch of years, and your scene ... is, specific to your area. :lol: I too burn through many more brake pads than tires.

ahh, gotcha. anyone thats old enough to drink (myself included) is in DC when not at work. so there's not much of a scene of anything around here. except for the girl-pant wearing 14 yr old skaters that hang out at the mcdonalds. even though i now know how people felt when i was one of the 14yr old bmxers at taco bell before hitting the trails...

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OP, we realise that you are a newb, but seriously, why did you think that skid spots would matter for SS?

I guess maybe you didn't realise that the concern with skid spots was the fact that with fixed gear, if you are locking your legs to skid then the crank arms will be in the same position and because there is no free wheel, a limited number of positions for the wheel to be in.

But then traffic jammer came in and started arguing about the ability to skid on a SS bike, which was entirely irrelevant to the thread.

The stupidity level in this thread rose up and up until it crescendo-ed into a cacophony of cat photos.

So well done gentlemen. Do you feel proud of yourselves????

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*snikker* Mission Accomplished AND the OP knows what do do instead of being made to feel stupid AND knows he knows he can skid his bike. Good times all around.

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Thread nuked.

Just time your pulling of the rear brake lever so its between the worn spots.

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