Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Sram S100 1.1 Single ring crankset. Anybody know anything about it?

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Germanicus
12-10-09, 03:57 PM
I am looking to get a new crank for my SS build-up and am considering several cranks. Can anybody can give me a review or tell me if they heard anything about this one?
Sram website has very little information about it.
Thanks.
-G
http://www.universalcycles.com/images//products/medium/29937.jpg
Germanicus
12-11-09, 02:33 AM
So, umm... nobody huh?
I'd looked into getting the S300 at one point, and the only information I could find was in regards to the 2-ring version. I went off the assumption that they would be of similar quality and performance. Other than that they seem to be a pretty unknown piece of equipment. Perhaps I'll have to pick one up in the new year and write about it.
The S-300? It's around 100-125, but Google is turning up almost no online shops with it in stock. I hope they didn't stop making it. I really wanted an external BB!
The S-300? It's around 100-125, but Google is turning up almost no online shops with it in stock. I hope they didn't stop making it. I really wanted an external BB!
This (http://www.qbike.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?ord=p&st=sram+s100+1.1&x=0&y=0&auct=on) may help. I recently got some Eighth Inch (http://www.eighthinch.com/cranks.html) square taper cranks, which I like, but if you can get the SRAM cranks for $57, jump on that.
queerpunk
12-11-09, 10:01 AM
it's the truvativ touro. came stock on a lot of budget bikes. nothing special, no big deal.
operator
12-11-09, 10:32 AM
So, umm... nobody huh?
Truvativ powerspline = garbage. Their bottom brackets also = garbage + low variety/availability. As far as non square taper track cranks and proprietary interfaces go, this is probably the worst quality of them all.
operator
12-11-09, 10:35 AM
it's the truvativ touro. came stock on a lot of budget bikes. nothing special, no big deal.
How is that a touro . Touro is a double while the S100 has provisions for no more than 1 chainring.
queerpunk
12-11-09, 11:12 AM
well, i suppose it's slightly modified, innit? you'll also noticed that they printed a different name on it. still looks like the same crank. SRAM owns truvativ. i could be wrong, but it doesn't take a whiz kid to connect the dots.
check it (http://media.photobucket.com/image/truvativ%20touro/keromx/Bike%20Fixie/Untitled-1-2.jpg).
also, the touro is quite commonly sold as a single - as i said, on a lot of budget SS/FGs. many years of the bianchi pista, KHS flite, and others too, no doubt.
the SRAM S100 uses the same "PowerSpline." coincidence?
Germanicus
12-11-09, 02:19 PM
Thanks everyone. I couldn't find too much info on it. There is one listed on the SRAM website as a 2010 product so maybe they will post up some more info after the new year. Powerspline huh? I haven't heard good things about it. Too bad. I thought it was a cool looking crank for the money. Guess I'll keep looking for now.
dayvan cowboy
12-11-09, 02:27 PM
The S-300? It's around 100-125, but Google is turning up almost no online shops with it in stock. I hope they didn't stop making it. I really wanted an external BB!
i was thinking about buying those since i wanted the omniums and can't afford them.
http://cgi.ebay.com/SRAM-S300-TRACK-FIXED-GEAR-CRANK-165mm-w-GXP-CRANKSET_W0QQitemZ370304635795QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCycling_Parts_Accessories?hash=item5637e05393 i found um on ebay for a good deal. I am tempted to jump the gun on these.
Germanicus
12-11-09, 02:35 PM
That's interesting. I didn't know the S300 came as a single ring. So I guess the difference between he S100 & S300 is the bottom bracket and it's ability to take a 1/8" chain?
dayvan cowboy
12-11-09, 02:43 PM
That's interesting. I didn't know the S300 came as a single ring. So I guess the difference between he S100 & S300 is the bottom bracket and it's ability to take a 1/8" chain?
the 300 comes in 2 versions, there is the powerspline, and the gxp. the 100 could take a 1/8" chain too, they're both 3/32".
chriskitch
12-11-09, 03:33 PM
the 100 is the same as the truvativ touro and the 300 is the same as the truvativ elita.....I use the elita on my winter bike and it's fine....ben's has both models in stock in all the popular arm lengths here: http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=188_193_1356
the 300 is mos def. worth the small amount of extra cash over the 100 due to it's more durable finish and superior bottom bracket (which will be WAY easier to find a replacement when the time comes than the 100's powerspline)...can't speak to the SRAM chainring's durability since I use a blackspire ring but I'm sure it'll be okay...
Truvativ powerspline = garbage. Their bottom brackets also = garbage + low variety/availability. As far as non square taper track cranks and proprietary interfaces go, this is probably the worst quality of them all.
EDIT: Sorry, my apologies. I am speaking on behalf of the S300 Track, not the S100. The S300 costs a little more, and is also outfitted for fixed gear/singlespeed/track use. Example (http://cgi.ebay.com/SRAM-S300-TRACK-FIXED-GEAR-CRANK-165mm-w-GXP-CRANKSET_W0QQitemZ370304635795QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCycling_Parts_Accessories?hash=item5637e05393). This is actually where I purchased mine from. -- I'm also surprised to see the price having gone up. I purchased mine for 65 dollars with shipping earlier this year.
Eh, sure. Unless you plan on hitting the velodrome, you really won't notice a difference. The bottom bracket is actually readily available (I've looked into it already, that is at least what it looks like). I haven't had any issues with the GXP (Giga-X-Pipe -- this is what the S100 and S300 both incorporate) and I am a big fan of their ease of maintenance. Especially considering that they come by pretty cheap. I'm not sure how you can have a bad quality interface between the crank and spindle, but if it helps, the drive crank is glued to the spindle, and the other half uses the 'powerspline.' Granted, I'm no expert, but I'm not sure that quality is that bad. It's not like it's something you have to mess with on a daily or even monthly basis anyways, it's a sealed bottom bracket, there is no need for it.
Regardless, the only issue with the S100, is it offers 41mm chainline, as opposed to the regular 42mm chainline. And, also, for conversions (like myself) it only offers the use of one side of the crank arm spider. Given it's price, you can't really ask for more.
Ichi-Go
12-12-09, 05:46 PM
I have an S300 and really like it. I have never ridden a super high end bottum bracket or crank but it feels really solid and smooth. The quality when looking at it in the packages before I installed it seemed awesome and the tolerences are super tight. I wanted an external bearing bottum bracket and feel like it makes a difference over my friends internal bearing bb's.
operator
12-12-09, 08:58 PM
Giga-x-pipe and powerspline are pure garbage. The OP would be better off with a converted square taper double.
operator
12-12-09, 08:59 PM
well, i suppose it's slightly modified, innit? you'll also noticed that they printed a different name on it. still looks like the same crank. SRAM owns truvativ. i could be wrong, but it doesn't take a whiz kid to connect the dots.
check it (http://media.photobucket.com/image/truvativ%20touro/keromx/Bike%20Fixie/Untitled-1-2.jpg).
also, the touro is quite commonly sold as a single - as i said, on a lot of budget SS/FGs. many years of the bianchi pista, KHS flite, and others too, no doubt.
the SRAM S100 uses the same "PowerSpline." coincidence?
No.
You're wrong. Completely different cranks.
Germanicus
12-12-09, 09:00 PM
Thanks, I think I am starting to lean toward the S300. I was looking at the Omnium, but it is a bit pricey and might be a bit overkill for a townie bike; although it is a sexy crank.
Hey Operator, what specifically goes wrong with the GXP BB? Is it an issue with a dodgy bearing or a poor interface or what?
Dannihilator
12-12-09, 10:22 PM
Hey Operator, what specifically goes wrong with the GXP BB? Is it an issue with a dodgy bearing or a poor interface or what?
Bearing life is short if you ride year round, the interface can be questionable.
So then I assume an Omnium will have the same issues?
Dannihilator
12-12-09, 10:35 PM
So then I assume an Omnium will have the same issues?
Depends on the bottom bracket used. The higher end GXP is good on the durability scale.
Well that's good news. I was afraid my crankset shopping list would be due for re-evaluation. Last question: If I were to purchase the SRAM S-300 crankset, install it and then purchase one of the higher-end bottom brackets when I kill the stock one, would this be a feasible plan? A quick Google search turns up a GXP bracket being sold for 35 dollars at Competitive Cyclist, which seems to be one of the more expensive websites out there. Perhaps I should just pony up for the Ominums.
Soil_Sampler
12-13-09, 12:53 AM
when it dies.
http://www.enduroforkseals.com/id228.html
The S300 is a good crank, and its noticeably stiffer than comparable square taper models and has similarly minor runout (though the Andel's are pretty round for the price). I'm comparing them directly to RD and Andel, for track and 90's 600 and early 2000s veloce for road conversions. Aside from some seal drag from the bb and a ring that was too large for my purposes I really like them. Riding in bad weather and in the winter is going to degrade all parts of your bike in some way, best to just have a winter beater.
acorn_user
12-13-09, 02:16 PM
If you have 100$, how about Kazane?
http://www.teamkazane.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=TRCK-KZ2SIL
Otherwise, just buy a Shimano square taper crank and get a new chainring. It will be much nicer than whatever else you can get for the money.
queerpunk
12-13-09, 02:49 PM
No.
You're wrong. Completely different cranks.
i'd be happy to be edified if i'm wrong, but am not sure i can be blamed for thinking they're the same. care to enlighten me?
chriskitch
12-14-09, 09:27 AM
i'd be happy to be edified if i'm wrong, but am not sure i can be blamed for thinking they're the same. care to enlighten me?
I'd like to be enlightened as well...what difference, other than the logo that is etched into the arm and the anodizing, is there between the touro and the s100?...
Some folks don't like the BB axle/crankarm interface that SRAM uses for it's GXP cranksets because the driveside crankarm and the steel spindle can separate...I'm not sure that's true...One shop I talked to has a whole box of GXP failures and warned me never to use that interface...Then I talked to another shop and they said that it is a super-rare failure if everything is installed correctly...Which leads me to believe that the first shop might not be as skilled at installation as they believe they are....
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