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Rollfast
01-15-10, 02:14 AM
My post count is stuck.

It's discovered anti-aging. That should be enviable!


SPlKE
01-15-10, 07:27 AM
New format this morning. Why? It was workning fine.

What's the deal with the blank white space at the top now?



Edit: Disregard this post. My titanium membership hasn't been applied yet. That's the format change I'm seeing.

LarryMelman
01-15-10, 09:51 AM
Or maybe we should all just play nice with each other and not worry about who's an employee and who's not, mmmmkay?

It has nothing to do with playing nice.

If an employee writes something about the operation of the forums, or what bugs are important and what bugs aren't, that obviously means something. (as compared to a random user's babbling) Having the employees simply identify themselves as such is not unreasonable. Most companies insist on it anyway.


Machka
01-15-10, 05:36 PM
It has nothing to do with playing nice.

If an employee writes something about the operation of the forums, or what bugs are important and what bugs aren't, that obviously means something. (as compared to a random user's babbling) Having the employees simply identify themselves as such is not unreasonable. Most companies insist on it anyway.

+1

Rollfast
01-15-10, 05:42 PM
It has nothing to do with playing nice.

If an employee writes something about the operation of the forums, or what bugs are important and what bugs aren't, that obviously means something. (as compared to a random user's babbling) Having the employees simply identify themselves as such is not unreasonable. Most companies insist on it anyway.

IB employees posting on this site tend to use 'IB' before their names, i.e. 'IB Steph'.

Implying I actually have a job is a statement that should be moved to Politics and Religion as it requires an act of God in this town.

Tom Stormcrowe
01-15-10, 07:21 PM
Employees do Identify themselves. We at the IB level all have 3 stars of Blue. Some are site volunteers, and some are IB Staff. The Moderators are all volunteer staff, but they also represent IB. Blue Star or stars= Represents the site or IB. ONe exception to that is bconver, who has Admin rights, etc, but is way above the crowd and doesn't normally get involved in day to day ops.
It has nothing to do with playing nice.

If an employee writes something about the operation of the forums, or what bugs are important and what bugs aren't, that obviously means something. (as compared to a random user's babbling) Having the employees simply identify themselves as such is not unreasonable. Most companies insist on it anyway.

10 Wheels
01-15-10, 07:35 PM
My SPY Page has No BF Heading.


http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/10wheels/NoBFHeading.jpg

FlatSix911
01-15-10, 07:45 PM
Hey Tom, the Tab for New Posts does not display correctly ... see attached screen shot.

Thanks

AEO
01-15-10, 07:46 PM
some people can't quote me.

Tom Stormcrowe
01-15-10, 08:31 PM
These are transients, I think. They should be corrected next week.

Rollfast
01-18-10, 01:40 AM
I've noticed that, AEO, but nobody can say bad things either unless they use Quick Reply, and use QUOTE and /QUOTE in brackets and paste.

AEO
01-20-10, 05:59 PM
did the text size shrink to microscopic levels?

I had to his ctrl+ to actually see anything now.

no1mad
01-20-10, 09:14 PM
Is it my imagination, or has/is/are all posts since the update done earlier today (1.20.10) being rendered in a more vertical format? I noticed it with both the latest FF and IE8. Talk about white space!

FlatSix911
01-20-10, 09:21 PM
Hey Tom, the Tab for New Posts does not display correctly ... see attached screen shot.

Thanks

Still not working ... Please advise.

no1mad
01-20-10, 09:22 PM
Weird. My previous post (113) was done using IE8. It came out more horizontal, showed up on 2 lines (and I had to scroll right to see all of the first line, like now). Then I brought up FF (which I'm using right now), and that same 2 line post is now 3 lines.

Dunno what your code monkeys were attempting to fix, but I think that they created more problems...

ETA: I think I know what the monkeys were up to. They working on support for mobile devices, right? Easier to scroll up/down than side/side. I'll have to check out the rendering on my media phone.

Rollfast
01-21-10, 07:18 AM
This setup, as of today, seems to make the best use of my standard CRT's space and I've noticed the ads are confined to the top banner and right side while reading this thread (no more half and half ad/post posts)! Two side by side banners at the top sounds acceptable and I don't mind if the right banner is utilized a bit more but the ones that split post formatting instead of breaking between the posts are not all that cool.

Rollfast
01-21-10, 07:19 AM
Except maybe that post that had Jenny Craig :p

Now it's THIS one...I know why! That's where an ad would go!

Rollfast
01-21-10, 07:22 AM
Except maybe that post that had Jenny Craig :p

Now it's THIS one...I know why! That's where an ad would go!

Well, now! It was posted as #0 and then I refreshed and it was #117 and skinny again. I KNOW NOTHING!!!! COL. HOGAN??!!!

Speedo
01-21-10, 07:10 PM
When I'm looking at this page many of the entries are just white space. Rollfast's post above just looks blank. But if I reply with quote I can see the text.


Well, now! It was posted as #0 and then I refreshed and it was #117 and skinny again. I KNOW NOTHING!!!! COL. HOGAN??!!!

What's up?

Speedo

Tom Stormcrowe
01-21-10, 07:40 PM
What browser? I need the info to pass on to the tech guys, and a screenshot would also help with diagnostics.
When I'm looking at this page many of the entries are just white space. Rollfast's post above just looks blank. But if I reply with quote I can see the text.



What's up?

Speedo

Speedo
01-23-10, 06:17 AM
What browser? I need the info to pass on to the tech guys, and a screenshot would also help with diagnostics.

Ha, to see your post I had to reply with quote.

I'm using Camino 2.0.1

I will make a screen shot.

Speedo

Speedo
01-23-10, 06:45 AM
What browser? I need the info to pass on to the tech guys, and a screenshot would also help with diagnostics.

Okay, screen shot below:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4056/4297010823_43a817f9a4_o.jpg

Speedo

Tom Stormcrowe
01-23-10, 08:38 PM
I have it reported, Speedo. Thanks for the data.

coasting
01-24-10, 05:35 PM
when a post includes a quote, when i click the link in the quote it doesn't go to the post quoted. instead it goes to the op.

Rollfast
01-25-10, 09:38 AM
when a post includes a quote, when i click the link in the quote it doesn't go to the post quoted. instead it goes to the op.

Same thing with email digesting! If I click on this:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?postid=10302125#post10302125

it will open THIS:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?609012-The-OK-I-need-current-updates-on-any-issues-you-have-on-the-forums-software-... or something and you have to advance from page one.

Tom Stormcrowe
01-25-10, 10:31 AM
Known iissue and they're working on it.
when a post includes a quote, when i click the link in the quote it doesn't go to the post quoted. instead it goes to the op.

Pamestique
01-26-10, 04:15 PM
Tom honestly every day is a new issue for me. I just can't get a handle on this new site. It's slow to post and edit. Right now it's posting weird (limited space across the page) I can't fix it. I almost don't have the patience anymore. But I know, in time, this will all be better!

Machka
01-26-10, 06:06 PM
1) Multiquote - some of the time it works just fine, other times I will multiquote and post the reply which is all good, then I go on to multiquote something else, elsewhere, but my previous multiquote comes up in the reply and I have to delete it. It doesn't seem to want to let go of the multiquote. The other day I used the multiquote feature to do replies three times in a row and by the third time, I had a huge list of quotes in my reply which I had to delete out.

2) Posting photos using the Insert Image button. When the dialogue box comes up, it looks like a Database Error, but it lets me post anyway. Is that how it is supposed to look? I can post a screenshot if you don't know what I'm talking about.

3) I'm getting that limited space across the page thing too ... but only on something I've just posted. As soon as someone else posts to the thread, it fixes itself, and the newest post is limited.

4) Did the text on the main BF page ... the one with all the links to the subforums ... get smaller since the most recent update, or is it just my eyes? Unfortunately the icons are still huge. Small text = bad. Small icons = good. Hopefully the next update will make the switch so we get small icons and somewhat larger text.

Tom Stormcrowe
01-26-10, 07:11 PM
The text didn't change for me. Hmmmm, it's possible, I suppose, though, that the update overwrote the custom text settings we implemented, but it wasn't supposed to. As to the limited display space on certain posts, I think that's where an ad is supposed to go, and as a premium subscriber, you don't see the ad. At least things have massively improved. I would like a screenshot of the image posting dialog box, though, so I can see what you are talking about.


1) Multiquote - some of the time it works just fine, other times I will multiquote and post the reply which is all good, then I go on to multiquote something else, elsewhere, but my previous multiquote comes up in the reply and I have to delete it. It doesn't seem to want to let go of the multiquote. The other day I used the multiquote feature to do replies three times in a row and by the third time, I had a huge list of quotes in my reply which I had to delete out.

2) Posting photos using the Insert Image button. When the dialogue box comes up, it looks like a Database Error, but it lets me post anyway. Is that how it is supposed to look? I can post a screenshot if you don't know what I'm talking about.

3) I'm getting that limited space across the page thing too ... but only on something I've just posted. As soon as someone else posts to the thread, it fixes itself, and the newest post is limited.

4) Did the text on the main BF page ... the one with all the links to the subforums ... get smaller since the most recent update, or is it just my eyes? Unfortunately the icons are still huge. Small text = bad. Small icons = good. Hopefully the next update will make the switch so we get small icons and somewhat larger text.

pacificaslim
01-26-10, 07:16 PM
Hi Tom, on the new posts index listing and on the indexes within each forum (road cycling, general cycling discussion, etc.) we are told about the last post in a thread and who the last poster was. However, on the "subscribed threads" index listing, it just shows the date/time of the last posted message but not the name of the user who posted it. Is there a way to add it? There is plenty of "real estate" for it since there is odd white space already vacant the way it is laid out now. Thanks.

Machka
01-27-10, 02:25 AM
the text didn't change for me. Hmmmm, it's possible, i suppose, though, that the update overwrote the custom text settings we implemented, but it wasn't supposed to. As to the limited display space on certain posts, i think that's where an ad is supposed to go, and as a premium subscriber, you don't see the ad. At least things have massively improved. I would like a screenshot of the image posting dialog box, though, so i can see what you are talking about.

OK, here's the image posting dialogue box. Is that what it is supposed to look like? Because that big V or whatever it is comes up in front of every Database Error message I get too, so I've assumed that there is some sort of Database Error going on when I try to post pictures.
.

Machka
01-27-10, 03:19 AM
And here's the image to show the odd thread alignment. What happens is that when a new post is made, it's all indented over to the left, as shown in the attached image.

If the poster comes back in and edits that post, then it spreads out and lines up with the one above it. Or if another poster comes in and replies to the thread, his/her post indents over to the left, and the one above it lines up nicely.
.

Tom Stormcrowe
01-27-10, 04:25 AM
Yep, that's what it's supposed to look like, and I was right. It's real estate that would be where an ad would display if you saw ads.

RUOkie
01-27-10, 12:31 PM
What happened to Trollheim? It's gone invisible!

Tom Stormcrowe
01-27-10, 04:16 PM
Temporarily offline due to code corruption. We're assessing whether it's recoverable.

serpico7
01-28-10, 07:46 AM
After a long time away, I recently returned to BF and was disappointed by the forum's new look. A huge downgrade, IMHO. I have to zoom in on the page to read the thread titles and thread content. WTF? Do the tech people who revised the forum have bionic eyesight?

The spacing of the posts is ridiculous. The old version used to fit more posts on the screen. And the spacing after a quote is just silly. If I want to look at so much white space, I'll look at the wall behind my monitor.

no1mad
01-28-10, 07:45 PM
And here's the image to show the odd thread alignment. What happens is that when a new post is made, it's all indented over to the left, as shown in the attached image.

If the poster comes back in and edits that post, then it spreads out and lines up with the one above it. Or if another poster comes in and replies to the thread, his/her post indents over to the left, and the one above it lines up nicely.
.Um, I see the alignments all over the place, not just the latest post. I've seen them go from "portrait" to "landscape" and back. Some of the landscapes fit on my screen (16" laptop display) just fine, while some I have to scroll over to see the entire line.


Yep, that's what it's supposed to look like, and I was right. It's real estate that would be where an ad would display if you saw ads.You sure about that? If you take a look at the screenshot she gave you, that whitespace is part of the normal reply field.

Looking at my display, this new look has two pale blue 'sideline' columns- the left for BF ID info (avatar, name and all that jazz), and the right one is for the ads. The only time I have ever seen an ad encroach upon the white 'field of play' is during the OP of a thread.

no1mad
01-28-10, 07:58 PM
The previous post #137 was done using FF. This one is being done with IE8. Since IE doesn't have the AdBloc that FF has, I'm able to see the ads. It does appear that the ads do run on the right side of the white 'field of play' after all. But it also looks like some posts that I have had to scroll to the right to view are entering the area where the ads would normally be. I'm confused now.

Rollfast
01-29-10, 05:46 PM
You are at the point we were all at 3-4 months ago. If you follow the threads on the subject, reset and update your browser accordingly you can make this run on kerosene even.

IE 6 even. It's like letting your '48 MG sit the winter with gelled gasoline, you have to fix it.

Good luck and welcome back.



After a long time away, I recently returned to BF and was disappointed by the forum's new look. A huge downgrade, IMHO. I have to zoom in on the page to read the thread titles and thread content. WTF? Do the tech people who revised the forum have bionic eyesight?

The spacing of the posts is ridiculous. The old version used to fit more posts on the screen. And the spacing after a quote is just silly. If I want to look at so much white space, I'll look at the wall behind my monitor.

Rollfast
01-29-10, 05:50 PM
Tom, I see few if any ads and I'm NOT a premium anything other than an expensive curmudgeon. The column go like that regardless.

Riverside_Guy
01-30-10, 10:59 AM
The most vexing is it seems in MANY threads, MANY posts look blank. I've even had one of mine LOOK readable after I made it and the page re-loaded, but the next day it was blank. Not to mention that I get notify e-mails with the text of a post, but on the forum, the message it CAME from is blank.

I also had BIG issues with trying to edit or delete (my) posts... for some weird reason, the next day it looked like what I tried unsuccessfully to do DID get done.

I've tried to see if I can see any pattern, but it seems random. FWIW, on this page I see post #126 and #140 as totally blank. Before I found this thread, I DID send a note to admin, but received no reply at all... not even a "we know, we're working on it" so I'd have some idea it is being looked at.

At this point, all I really want is to hear some acknowledgment serious issues are happening and it's being worked on...

pacificaslim
01-30-10, 12:49 PM
I get the same strange alignment issue mentioned by Machka above - it's all in a narrow column until a new post gets added below and then it will revert to the correct alignment. Also, everytime I post it attempts a double post (on a single click of the button, I swear). It goes straight to the "you can only post once in a 30 second period" screen.

Tom Stormcrowe
01-30-10, 02:35 PM
OK, I've been buried with email, and if you sent the note to the "Admin" account, then it went to hyperspace, as that is actually (or was, now), an obsolete account. It has since been eliminated. Site issues need to be sent to me, as the Site Admin, and I can be reached by email or PM. PM is easier, since it is separate from my emails. (I get a huge mass of forum related email).



The most vexing is it seems in MANY threads, MANY posts look blank. I've even had one of mine LOOK readable after I made it and the page re-loaded, but the next day it was blank. Not to mention that I get notify e-mails with the text of a post, but on the forum, the message it CAME from is blank.

I also had BIG issues with trying to edit or delete (my) posts... for some weird reason, the next day it looked like what I tried unsuccessfully to do DID get done.

I've tried to see if I can see any pattern, but it seems random. FWIW, on this page I see post #126 and #140 as totally blank. Before I found this thread, I DID send a note to admin, but received no reply at all... not even a "we know, we're working on it" so I'd have some idea it is being looked at.

At this point, all I really want is to hear some acknowledgment serious issues are happening and it's being worked on...

Riverside_Guy
01-31-10, 07:46 AM
Tom, your #143 is blank to me! As is your #126.

Using a Gecko rendering engine browser... tries this page in a WebKit based browser... interesting, it is displayed there. Tried Firefox, hmmmm, that's odd, it works there... not sure WHAT to think now.

FlatSix911
01-31-10, 01:21 PM
Hey Tom, we are still having problems when we select the New Posts button from the header bar.

The new posts results page is displayed with Column Width issues - the center column is only 1 character in field width - see attached screen shot image. Thanks :thumb:

DMF
01-31-10, 02:05 PM
New issues:

When posting a reply from a Quick Reply editor box, I end up in the Advanced Editor with the following message:

This forum requires that you wait 30 seconds between posts. Please try again in 29 seconds.
If I wait and hit Submit Post it errors on "Duplicate Post" because the reply was actually submitted. Yet if instead I back up to see if it was actually submitted, the post doesn't appear (unless Refresh).

I thought this might be a temporary problem, but it's been going on for around ten days. (Sometimes - like to day - it mostly works okay; sometimes it's on every reply. I see no pattern.)


There's no way to clear multiple reply selections without going back and doing it manually. Optimally they would be cleared when the consolidated reply is posted.


A reply referenced blockquote ostensibly has a link to the quoted post. But clicking that little button takes me back to the start of the thread, not to the post.


Under a blockquote I enter a line of text, with or without a newline following the [/QUOTE] tag. When posted, my reply text is spaced down two lines (i.e. there are two blank lines between the blockquote and my reply). I end my reply with one or more newlines, then another blockquote. The second blockquote is spaced down a maximum of one line (i.e. there is one or no blank line between my reply and the blockquote).

In other words, my reply is always closer to the following blockquote than to the one that it's addressing. See my bullet #1 above for an example. The effect can be rather confusing. (Very few people reply as you do, Tom, above the blockquote.)


Old issues:

PLEASE give us some way to turn off the post excerpt flyover on thread list pages. It is the single most annoying 'feature' on the forum.

Tom Stormcrowe
01-31-10, 02:27 PM
Clear your bikeforums.net cookies, and log back in to the site. That appears to be a style cookie issue. Let me know if that worked.

DMF, we're worrking on the issues you've reported, thanks.


Hey Tom, we are still having problems when we select the New Posts button from the header bar.

The new posts results page is displayed with Column Width issues - the center column is only 1 character in field width - see attached screen shot image. Thanks :thumb:

DMF
02-01-10, 01:06 PM
Editor can' make up it's mind how to format posts. Sometimes it uses a fixed line length. Sometimes it lets it run. If it fixes length, then Edit/Save changes to variable length.

I presume it's inserting newlines when it sets a fixed line length. It's possibly a rendering error, but I don't see how.

Riverside_Guy
02-01-10, 01:27 PM
Thanks Tom... yesterday I could NOT see your #147, today I can. Now I can't see DMFs post!

Tried the cookie deletion, didn't work. One of the devs of the browser I like (Camino, Gecko engine) suggested I try a fresh profile, that kinda DID seem to show all posts! Trying to figure out what can cause this odd behavior... I thought "fresh profile" tended to mean "no cookies" but having deleted BF cookies, maybe not.

Tom Stormcrowe
02-01-10, 01:47 PM
Unfortunately, Camino doesn't have a broad enough user spectrum yet to be a supported browser, so I don't know that much about it, yet.
Thanks Tom... yesterday I could NOT see your #147, today I can. Now I can't see DMFs post!

Tried the cookie deletion, didn't work. One of the devs of the browser I like (Camino, Gecko engine) suggested I try a fresh profile, that kinda DID seem to show all posts! Trying to figure out what can cause this odd behavior... I thought "fresh profile" tended to mean "no cookies" but having deleted BF cookies, maybe not.