Road Cycling - Crank Bro Egg Beater (chrome/stainless)

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ruirui
08-10-04, 06:26 PM
anyone here has them on their bikes? i'm a newb when it comes to bike stuff.. so is this one very easy to use and ride with? i'm not looking into racing or anything but just occassional sprints with my friend. are they good value and easy to clip off?

thanks,
rui


LordOpie
08-10-04, 06:30 PM
what draws you to egg beaters? As opposed to the handful of other pedals? Is this for your roadbike or a mtb?

ruirui
08-10-04, 06:42 PM
it's for my road bike.. sirrus. what draws me to them.. humm.. i love their unique design. r they a bad thing?


LordOpie
08-10-04, 06:44 PM
no, not bad at all. Everyone has different tastes. While I've never tried 'em, I'm sure they'd give *me* hot spots. I like bigger platform. Let us know how they work out for you.

Stubacca
08-10-04, 07:17 PM
Egg Beater S, Specialized Sport MTB shoes, no hot spots even on century rides.

They're good pedals, IMHO. Easy to get in and out of, very secure, damn light. I've got two pairs of Candy SL pedals too, one set on the commuter and another on the MTB. The Candy's are a touch harder to actually clip in to, but have a slightly bigger contact patch on the shoe so can be ridden more easily for a few strokes before clipping in, which is great for crossing intersections etc.

ruirui
08-10-04, 11:43 PM
humm.. i keep reading people post about hot spots in their shoes. but i saw my friend's shimano shoes and it has holes on the bottom for ventilation i guess. so in shoes like those u shouldn't be getting hot spots right?

also, how come larger contact platforms will help prevent hot spots? also.. when u click out of the egg beaters... do you move side ways or what? also, will the cleats only work with mtb shoes?

just trying to get a low cost, lightweight, effective pedal/shoe combo. last time i saw performance having a combo deal which looked tempting. but didn't get cuz not sure about it.

Murrays
08-11-04, 08:22 AM
humm.. i keep reading people post about hot spots in their shoes. but i saw my friend's shimano shoes and it has holes on the bottom for ventilation i guess. so in shoes like those u shouldn't be getting hot spots right?

also, how come larger contact platforms will help prevent hot spots? also.. when u click out of the egg beaters... do you move side ways or what? also, will the cleats only work with mtb shoes?

just trying to get a low cost, lightweight, effective pedal/shoe combo. last time i saw performance having a combo deal which looked tempting. but didn't get cuz not sure about it.

“Hot spots” aren’t actually caused by your feet getting hot, but the nerves between the bones in the foot being compressed. The sensation is similar to feeling hot.

Ventilation won’t hurt, but I doubt they will help hot spots.

Larger platforms help because the load is distributed over a larger area so less pressure is concentrated on the ball of your foot.

FWIW, I bought some Egg Beater Candy’s for our tandem. They are a little harder to get into and easy to release (twist your foot like other pedals). I know they say they have float, but I haven’t noticed much float at all without some resistance.

-murray

LordOpie
08-11-04, 08:37 AM
just trying to get a low cost, lightweight, effective pedal/shoe combo.
if you want lost cost, just buy some cheap SPD pedals until you get a better idea of what you want.

I know nothing about eggbeaters, but according to Murray, they have little to no float. Unless you can get someone to help you position the cleats just right, I should think little or no float would be painful with an improperly fitted cleat.

Sloth
08-11-04, 08:53 AM
I've got Candy SLs. The additional platform eliminates hot spots and is perfect for riding in traffic - you can unclip and still pedal (you can even use street shoes.) There is some float (not sure how much) and getting them positioned was a no-brainer.

I'm not sure whether it's me getting used to them or not, but I think that they "break-in". Initially, getting clipped in and out is tough, but it seems to be getting easier.

forum*rider
08-11-04, 09:15 AM
I use eggbeaters on my mtb and my roadie. Excellent pedals, they do have a bit of float and are very easily maintained. The clipping motion is similar to SPD's(toe first then press down) The clipping out is buttery smooth and they can shed mud easily(not a problem on a road bike though.)

Only complaint I have is the cleats. Since the cleats are brass and the pedals are SS the cleats wear down VERY quickly. Saves wear and tear on the pedals though.

FatBomber
08-11-04, 09:17 AM
I have regular ebs on all three of my bikes and I love them. I have ridden as far as 70 miles in a single day and my pedals were the least of my issues. I do ride with a very stiff mountain racing shoe, which may help to eliminate "hot spots".

astonv0l
08-11-04, 09:30 AM
I have had SS for a year and they are great. Same a s above, my arse hurt alot faster than my feet and getting in and out is a breeze, I dont think you would be dissapointed.

ruirui
08-11-04, 12:14 PM
cool cool.. looks like the best combo would be ebs + mt. shoes. anyone here use them with road shoes?

bagel
08-11-04, 03:06 PM
I have the Candy SLs on my mountain bike. I'm actually thinking of putting a set on my road bike since I've been using it to commute a lot lately and I'm getting tired of changing out of my road shoes everytime I want to take a walk.

But the difference between the Candy SLs and the Candy Cs in weight is about 10 grams. Is that a lot? Because the difference in price is about $30. Which is definitely a lot. The Candy SLs weigh about as much as the standard Egg Beater Cs so I figure I'd go with Candies because of the platforms and the greater surface area.

Are the SLs that much better than the Cs?

Murrays
08-11-04, 03:14 PM
But the difference between the Candy SLs and the Candy Cs in weight is about 10 grams. Is that a lot? Because the difference in price is about $30.

The old rule of thumb is that $1 per gram is "justified" so $30 for 10 grams alone is not a good deal while I would probably go for $30 to save 100 grams.

FWIW, I got two sets of the cheapest Candy's on eBay for ~$60. IMO, the yellow color to match our tandem was more important than 10 grams and higher cost.

Another comment on weight, when I was switching the pedals on DW's bike, the weight of the old Look pedal pulled the crank down with the new Candy pedal! There was enough weight difference to overcome the friction of the freehub/drive train.

-murray

lala
08-11-04, 03:27 PM
They have lotsa float, actually.


if you want lost cost, just buy some cheap SPD pedals until you get a better idea of what you want.

I know nothing about eggbeaters, but according to Murray, they have little to no float. Unless you can get someone to help you position the cleats just right, I should think little or no float would be painful with an improperly fitted cleat.

FatBomber
08-11-04, 03:28 PM
10 grams is .0220 pounds. I think at that point you are splitting hairs.

LordOpie
08-11-04, 03:33 PM
10 grams is .0220 pounds. I think at that point you are splitting hairs.I agree, shave your head at that point.

Sloth
08-11-04, 03:49 PM
The reason I got the SLs was because I wanted the stainless spindle. I do a fair bit of wet riding and assumed that tainless would be less prone to rust.

Weight alone would not do it for me.

Stubacca
08-11-04, 07:47 PM
Lots of float for me. The pedal and cleat design is asymmetrical, too, so you can actually unclip by moving your heel in (or toe out) as well as the usual heel out motion. My strong recommendation would be to buy the shoes from a bike shop - you really want to try cycling shoes on before you buy them. I picked up all three sets of pedals I have (1 SS, 2 Candy) for $75 per pair on eBay.

You can put EB cleats on road shoes, but you're best to buy the special road cleats if you want to do that. They come with pontoons to give you a bit of grip.

I've got about 2000 miles on my current set of cleats. While they are showing a bit of wear, they're still easy enough to clip in and out so I think I'll get a bit more mileage yet.

zanq
08-11-04, 08:10 PM
I have two pairs of egg beaters with chromoly spindles, one pair on a mountain single speed, the other on a fully geared mountain rig. I love 'em! Simple design, shed dirt, easy to get in and out of, and almost fully rebuildable. Though I haven't had to replace them yet, I have heard that the cleats wear out due to being made of brass, but I guess I would rather have any wear on the cheaper cleat than on the pedal.

I have not experienced any hot spots, but the bottom of my mtn. shoe is pretty rigid so weight is decently distributed.

I'm just getting into road biking and don't have a rig yet, but I would consider using egg beaters. Though, I have always liked the look of the Speedplays!

Avalanche325
08-12-04, 01:10 AM
I had a pair. The reason I got rid of them is that they hurt my knees. This, I am sure, is just me and not very common. My feet point out and the Eggbeaters make your feet point straight. I could not angle the cleats enough to make up for this, so there was always tension.

They are fairly easy to get in and out of. The one annoying thing is that if you hit the pedal and don't get clipped in, the pedal can roll under your foot. This will result in your foot slipping off of the front.

I switched to SpeedPlay FROGs. They are WAAAAYYYY easier to get into and out of than the Eggbeaters. I thought it couldn't be much easier than Eggbeaters. I was shocked when I first tried the FROGS. Plus no knee pain.

jedi_rider
08-12-04, 01:37 AM
crank brothers is putting out a road version of their eggbeaters. it's supposed to give a larger platform. hopefully, it will eliminate users getting "hotspots".

Murrays
08-12-04, 06:59 AM
Lots of float for me.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong or we have a different definition of float. With the shoes clipped in, I can rotate my foot fine, but it is resisted by the spring force which wants to return the cleat to the neutral position. This is contrary to my Look pedals with red cleats that have little or no resistance to rotation and no force trying to center the cleat. For those that claim to have “lots of float”, do you have any resistance to rotation of the shoe?

I also know the cleats can be mounted on opposite feet to change the release angle. Does this affect the float?

-murray

zanq
08-12-04, 10:54 AM
Maybe I'm doing something wrong or we have a different definition of float. With the shoes clipped in, I can rotate my foot fine, but it is resisted by the spring force which wants to return the cleat to the neutral position. This is contrary to my Look pedals with red cleats that have little or no resistance to rotation and no force trying to center the cleat. For those that claim to have “lots of float”, do you have any resistance to rotation of the shoe?

I also know the cleats can be mounted on opposite feet to change the release angle. Does this affect the float?

-murray

It could. It would be easy enough for you to swap them around and give it a test run.

lala
08-12-04, 11:19 AM
I have some/slight resistance on the candys and zero resistance on the eggnbeaters. This is why I want to switch them off the fixie: I feel like I'm sliding /flopping around on the spindle.

I haven't flipped the cleats, so I don't know about your second question.



For those that claim to have “lots of float”, do you have any resistance to rotation of the shoe?

I also know the cleats can be mounted on opposite feet to change the release angle. Does this affect the float?

Cloudbase
08-12-04, 12:13 PM
I have eggbeaters (chrome) and love 'em. Easy in, easy out. Great pedal.

ruirui
08-12-04, 12:27 PM
crank brothers is putting out a road version of their eggbeaters. it's supposed to give a larger platform. hopefully, it will eliminate users getting "hotspots".

yup, i saw it on their site too. either the zeros or the frogs. but the thing is.. if u want a pedal with a larger platform.. then what's the benefit of changing my regualr pedal with a toe cage? wouldn't that in essense be the same idea as a clipless with large platform?

Avalanche325
08-12-04, 05:30 PM
but it is resisted by the spring force which wants to return the cleat to the neutral position. That is exactly what was killing my knees. It is still float, since you don't unclip. The FROGs have float without the centering resistance.

Hot spots are actually caused by the shoes, not the pedals. Your foot is supposed to be supported by a very stiff sole. The pedal is just an attachment point between your shoe and the cranks. If you are getting hot spots, your shoes are more than likley flexing when they shouldn't.

roadienewt
08-12-04, 09:12 PM
I have a pair on my road bike and a pair on my MTB. I love 'em! I had Looks on my road bike prior to the 'beaters and I couldn't get over the weight difference! The EBs were a lot easier to get in and out of as well.

My cleats are showing signs of wear (they have about 2500 miles on them) and will need to be replaced by the end of the season, but that is their purpose and why they are brass- they are meant to wear out first.

The float has been fine for me- I don't feel any resistance in the float range. I also haven't had any hotspots with them.

jedi_rider
08-13-04, 12:51 AM
i see your point. i guess it depends on what your preference is for feel. i haven't ridden much with toe cages...

VinMan
08-13-04, 11:19 AM
GREAT pedal. I bought the Answer/ eggbeaters combo special in Nashbar's catalog. Cheap, VERY comfortable and I can walk when I get off my bike. I rida a Serotta road bike and find the float just fine.