Advocacy & Safety - Anyone have a facebook account?

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Theres-a-perfectly-good-path-right-next-to-the-road-you-stupid-cyclist/190080667052

Report this loser and help towards getting it pulled.

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The creator of this page is inciting illegal activity by encouraging others to hit, injure and kill cyclists. This is not protected by the 1st Amendment. this is intended to cause harm and as such is not protected under Freedom of Speech. Please remove this page and block the creator of it from setting up another account and remove any other accounts this person has set up.

I have reported this to Facebook, it will be reviewed by their administrators and they will take whatever action they deem appropriate. I encourage any others who belong to Facebook to do the same. I expect it will take a few days before anything happens though, so maybe check the page in a couple of days.

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31,184 fans...

:notamused:

31,184 fans...

The figures aren't good on this end:


Bike Forums Statistics

Members: 172,337
Active Members: 11,247

The active member list is a pretty depressing figure, considering BF is one of the largest (if not the largest - don't know offhand) U.S.-based online cycling sites.

-Kurt

Anyone up for creating a "There's a perfectly good expressway right near here you stupid motorist!"?

Anyone up for creating a "There's a perfectly good expressway right near here you stupid motorist!"?

It blows my mind how many people are intollerant of cyclists. My fiance is one of them lol, not violent by any means, but hates getting behind them. I think she has cooled off now that shes with me haha.:thumb:

BTW here is my facebook account I welcome any friend requests from fellow cyclists.
http://www.facebook.com/Arkyduckslayer?ref=profile

A large percentage of population are stupid and have emotional/mental issues. Nothing you can do about that, it's an epidemic of stupidity, pandemic actually. If you put these people behind the wheel it just gets that bad. This is particularly true in USA where people are marginally educated and kept dumb by the media.

Unfortunately, a lot of cyclists are "infected" too....

The media is pushing the American Dream: a big house, a big SUV, people work their asses off to catch up with Joe next door, forgetting about basic pleasures in life. Parents have no time to be with their kids because they work too much so the kids grow up to be angry idiots. This rush, rat-race life style creates anger, anxiety, depression amongst people. That mixed with the general stupidity paints a really bleak picture.

Adam

You have a freind request :D When riding in the city I am amazed how many drivers freak out around cyclists but have no issues with double parked cars.

A large percentage of population are stupid and have emotional/mental issues. Nothing you can do about that, it's an epidemic of stupidity, pandemic actually. If you put these people behind the wheel it just gets that bad. This is particularly true in USA where people are marginally educated and kept dumb by the media.

Unfortunately, a lot of cyclists are "infected" too....

The media is pushing the American Dream: a big house, a big SUV, people work their asses off to catch up with Joe next door, forgetting about basic pleasures in life. Parents have no time to be with their kids because they work too much so the kids grow up to be angry idiots. This rush, rat-race life style creates anger, anxiety, depression amongst people. That mixed with the general stupidity paints a really bleak picture.

Adam
Leave no stone of stereotypes and generalizations unturned, eh?

Leave no stone of stereotypes and generalizations unturned, eh?

Well then, ILTB, do you have an alternate explanation for the phenomenon? I'd be interested in hearing it.

-Kurt

Well then, ILTB, do you have an alternate explanation for the phenomenon? I'd be interested in hearing it.

-Kurt
What is the "phenomenon"? Is it someone writing or believing something stupid? A lot of people believing something stupid? Is that supposed to be a recent or US only "phenomenon"?

What is the "phenomenon"? Is it someone writing or believing something stupid? A lot of people believing something stupid? Is that supposed to be a recent or US only "phenomenon"?

Well the conversation was regarding the intolerance of cyclists...

Do you feel there is any such intolerance? And if so, why?

Well the conversation was regarding the intolerance of cyclists...

Do you feel there is any such intolerance? And if so, why?
That may have been what some posters were conversing about; I responded to the poster who decided to toss out every clichéd stereotype he could think about to explain his contempt for everybody in the U.S who is not as smart and perfect as he thinks of himself.

As far as Facebook, I don't participate so I don't know what was posted but I can always read wacky comments on BF and elsewhere if I choose to; if I was more capable in foreign languages I might be able to read stupid comments from elsewhere on the Internet(assuming the powers that be in those countries allow unfiltered commentary on the Internet).

Slightly off topic, but I believe that a lot of the issues in the US are a result of the perceived "ownership" of the road. Phrases like "share the road" only hurt the cyclist cause as they use the same terminology. In part due to the size of the US, and in part due to the prevalence of automobiles (cemented by the Eisenhower system), many cities have severely inadequate public transportation. As a result, the "American" lifestyle includes a personal automobile. Many people see their cars on the road as an extension of their private property, and this possessiveness shows itself commonly as road rage. The following article shows how people with bumper stickers see the road more as their personal property and are more common in road ragers.
http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2008/jun/17/nation/chi-driving-behaviorjun17

Whatever nitpicking over legalities occurs between cars and bikes is just a form of rationalizing the anger.

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The creator of this page is inciting illegal activity by encouraging others to hit, injure and kill cyclists. This is not protected by the 1st Amendment. this is intended to cause harm and as such is not protected under Freedom of Speech. Please remove this page and block the creator of it from setting up another account and remove any other accounts this person has set up.

Awesome, I can C&P my reasons for reporting.

That may have been what some posters were conversing about; I responded to the poster who decided to toss out every clichéd stereotype he could think about to explain his contempt for everybody in the U.S who is not as smart and perfect as he thinks of himself.

As far as Facebook, I don't participate so I don't know what was posted but I can always read wacky comments on BF and elsewhere if I choose to; if I was more capable in foreign languages I might be able to read stupid comments from elsewhere on the Internet(assuming the powers that be in those countries allow unfiltered commentary on the Internet).

That poster you reference threw out his comments as to "why" there is cyclist intolerance. So you missed the point.

And you have still not answered the question regarding intolerance of cyclists. Do you feel there is such intolerance, and if so, why.

That was exactly what "that poster" was trying to answer... but you stepped right over the conversation, and threw in your "judgments... " building your own stereotype and showing your own intolerance.

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It blows my mind how many people are intollerant of cyclists. My fiance is one of them lol, not violent by any means, but hates getting behind them. I think she has cooled off now that shes with me haha.:thumb:

BTW here is my facebook account I welcome any friend requests from fellow cyclists.
http://www.facebook.com/Arkyduckslayer?ref=profile

I have a really stupid question. How or where do I find a link to my Facebook page so I can post it elsewhere? I have not been a Facebook member for very long and have yet to find something that says something like link for other web sites, etc. I have tried to copy and past the link from the URL in the address bar but it does not seem to work very well.

It's facebook.com/( user name )

If you don't know your user name, log in.
Click on Settings and you'll see the username line
You can change it from the Change link there.

That poster you reference threw out his comments as to "why" there is cyclist intolerance. So you missed the point.
Right back at ya. The stereotype "bomber" didn't post a word about cyclist intolerance nor the content of the Facebook blurb nor any other problem other than his long list of generalizations. He could have just as well been ranting about the "reason" for fast food or WalMart or TV shows or any other hot button cultural issue for a PC know-it-all.
As far as "cyclist intolerance" what is your definition? All I know about it is what I read about it from various BF ranters prone to over-the-top rhetoric.

And what I know cannot be applied beyond my own personal experience without some credible references.

this appears to be extremely regional and very specific to certain roads

If you have a facebook account, I would urge you to use this link as your status. Below it add a request for your friends to report the page.

Dave

If you have a facebook account, I would urge you to use this link as your status. Below it add a request for your friends to report the page. I am open to adding fellow BF/Cyclists... http://www.facebook.com/Cyclaholic?ref=profile

Dave

"David only shares some of his profile information with everyone" :(

"David only shares some of his profile information with everyone" :(

What is wrong with that?

done.... actually my wife did it for me

What is wrong with that?

In of itself nothing but


If you have a facebook account, I would urge you to use this link as your status. ... http://www.facebook.com/Cyclaholic?ref=profile

Seems like a weird place to encourage all my friends to go. But on second reading maybe you meant another link as "this link"

Leave no stone of stereotypes and generalizations unturned, eh?

When speaking of group behavior you sort of have to generalize... But there's definitely some pretty typical stereotypes and I'm not sure if they're correct or not. They're getting kind of boring.

Leave no stone of stereotypes and generalizations unturned, eh?

The funny thing about stereotypes is that they're mostly true. Anyway, what I said wasn't a stereotype. Yes, it was a generalization perhaps. But I still stand by what I said that our society is obsessed with cars and expensive things in general, undereducated, dumb and disrespectful and afraid of anything they don't understand.

Adam

The funny thing about stereotypes is that they're mostly true.

Sorry, the funny thing about stereotypes is how few they actually apply to but somehow confirms to a lot of people that a stereotype is actually/mostly true.

OK, that first sentence wasn't really thought out well, sorry.

Adam

OK, that first sentence wasn't really thought out well, sorry.

LOL, We are a hard crowd to play for. :p Thanks for being good natured about it. :thumb:

seems to be some cyclists joining this group...

:) I like the all female cycling team in the photos. nice.

LOL, We are a hard crowd to play for. :p Thanks for being good natured about it. :thumb:

I'm opinionated and often say thing before thinking them over them, or say things I really didn't mean to but I don't like be a dick to others, so I take it back when I'm wrong and apologize. And today I'm in particularly pessimistic mood :(

A.

I reported that page, however, I doubt it'll disappear.

P.S., if any of you wish to befriend me on Facebook, the link is in my signature.

Seems like every one I know has a Facebook account, personally, all I see it as being as one big source of TMI, and it is the one reason I do not have an account with them.

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The creator of this page is inciting illegal activity by encouraging others to hit, injure and kill cyclists. This is not protected by the 1st Amendment. this is intended to cause harm and as such is not protected under Freedom of Speech. Please remove this page and block the creator of it from setting up another account and remove any other accounts this person has set up.

You do realize the all over the total of the rest of the world doesn't fall under US law right?

Seriously it's best to ignore people like this on FB.

Facebook is bound by American laws in America just like Google is bound by Italian laws in Italy no matter how absurd they ma be ;)

Bu I agree: best to ignore. I'm actually ignoring Facebook altogether :D
A.

A good reason to avoid sites like Facebook, MySpace, etc. is because potential employers are now looking up applicants and if they see something that they don't like posted to Facebook or MySpace, etc. they can and will use it not to hire someone. Likewise employers are now looking up employees at those sites and if they see something there that they don't like, using it to fire a person. I don't remember the name of the company but I read an article not too long ago about how one company wanted their employees to give them their password(s) to the various social network site(s) that they're on so that they can check up on them.

Just remember that anything that you post to any site can and will be found and that if someone wanted to they could hold it against you.

So think before ya post that picture of you and your buds passing around the bong or bottle. A future employer can find it and use it as a reason not to hire you.

Leave no stone of stereotypes and generalizations unturned, eh?

Not for nothing, but 50% of the population is of below average intelligence. If that's not a pandemic, nothing is.:eek:

A good reason to avoid sites like Facebook, MySpace, etc. is because potential employers are now looking up applicants and if they see something that they don't like posted to Facebook or MySpace, etc. they can and will use it not to hire someone. Likewise employers are now looking up employees at those sites and if they see something there that they don't like, using it to fire a person. I don't remember the name of the company but I read an article not too long ago about how one company wanted their employees to give them their password(s) to the various social network site(s) that they're on so that they can check up on them.

Just remember that anything that you post to any site can and will be found and that if someone wanted to they could hold it against you.

So think before ya post that picture of you and your buds passing around the bong or bottle. A future employer can find it and use it as a reason not to hire you.

If you set your profile to private it's not an issue.

A good reason to avoid sites like Facebook, MySpace, etc. is because potential employers are now looking up applicants and if they see something that they don't like posted to Facebook or MySpace, etc. they can and will use it not to hire someone. Likewise employers are now looking up employees at those sites and if they see something there that they don't like, using it to fire a person. I don't remember the name of the company but I read an article not too long ago about how one company wanted their employees to give them their password(s) to the various social network site(s) that they're on so that they can check up on them.

Just remember that anything that you post to any site can and will be found and that if someone wanted to they could hold it against you.

So think before ya post that picture of you and your buds passing around the bong or bottle. A future employer can find it and use it as a reason not to hire you.

The interesting thing is that many people create such sites using "handles" or nicknames... thus an employer can question you and you can respond... I have no such site... and refuse to give any link to your "noms de plume."

In fact with a bit of work, you can establish several sites and show potential employers exactly what they think they want. If they are foolish enough to use that as a basis for hire... do you really want to work there?

Not for nothing, but 50% of the population is of below average intelligence. If that's not a pandemic, nothing is.:eek:

That's very generous and optimistic approximation.

A.

Not for nothing, but 50% of the population is of below average intelligence. If that's not a pandemic, nothing is.:eek:

Actually, I think cyclist and a few genius types raise the average intellgence so high, that 85% of the population is of below average intelligence.:thumb::p

I will add my voice to this once I am home.
No Facebook from work... At least I can browse here!

There's been a whole crop of anti-cyclist groups popping up on FB since this thread started, and I assume the reports started rolling in to their admins.
I did report a post or two in the group from the original post, as well as the entire "I WANT TO RUN OVER CYCLISTS" group and the "run the Cyclists off the road" group.

Sure, the "Hey Stupid Cyclist..." group is irritating to see, but it doesn't explicitly advocate violence. The members posting there do, but the group is just dedicated to a daft opinion based on ignorance.
The other two groups I reported to the FB admins, with the reason "direct call to violence" or whatever FB lists as the reason. Both groups make specific threats in their basic descriptions. In the further explanation, I stated that it's no different than if I created a FB group called "Let's throw bricks off highway overpasses" with a basic description of "65mph windscreen + 9.8m/s^2 brick: You do the math."

Pretty disgusting. I reported it also.

The interesting thing is that many people create such sites using "handles" or nicknames... thus an employer can question you and you can respond... I have no such site... and refuse to give any link to your "noms de plume."

True, if one is smart that is what they'll do. But sadly as we've all have seen and as we all know, not everyone is smart enough to do that.


In fact with a bit of work, you can establish several sites and show potential employers exactly what they think they want. If they are foolish enough to use that as a basis for hire... do you really want to work there?

Again, true, but think of all of the sites that your friends have created could have pictures of one engaging in reckless or illegal activities. And as I am sure we all know once something is posted to The Net it's pretty much there both for the whole world to see as well as being there forever.

If you set your profile to private it's not an issue.

You have to vigorously and frequently go in and lock things down. They keep adding new "features" that allow your private data to leak out. For instance, even with your profile set to private, unless you lock it down, any of your friends that run an app (like Mafia Wars or whatever) open up your private data to the authors of the app.

My FB account is locked down to the point where if I made any of the settings any tighter, nobody could see anything about or by me. In fact there are some settings I didn't want open at all, but "show this to nobody" wasn't an option. So I added all my friends to a special group, and set the feature to "show only to my friends, except people in this group" (and that group included all my friends).

Also, the email address I gave them is only a redirector address; it goes to my inbox but it's a specific address given only to facebook, so if I start getting spammed on it, A) I know who gave it out, and B) I can shut it off.