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Colin255
01-08-10, 03:16 PM
Im sick and tired of flat god damn tires.

My stock tube kept going flat on me, even though I found NO leaks in it whatsoever. So finally, after weeks of having to re-pump my tires up once or twice a day, I decided to buy a new ******** tube. So I hit up the BS and I get one, ride home, go to sleep, next day-- its flat. I do not know why road tires are so ****ty.


Im worried because half the times I get a flat, I'm riding on my bike and I don't even realize its flat till I get home. This is pissing me off because now my front tire is not spinning very true any more and Im worried this is going to 'eff with my front brake usage.


/end rant/


How do I deal with this constant failure of my tires?


ianjk
01-08-10, 03:19 PM
Did you check the inside of your tire to make sure there is no glass or other debris stuck in it?

elTwitcho
01-08-10, 03:19 PM
Your problem is not typical, this really shouldn't be happening.

Check the inside of your rim for anything sharp that might be puncturing the tubes. Check your tubes to find where the holes are, if it's in the same spot you know where your problem area is. You are making sure to close the valve after you pump up, yeah?


hairnet
01-08-10, 03:24 PM
How do you ride on a flat on not notice?

stedalus
01-08-10, 03:25 PM
Inflate the tube outside of the tire, put it underwater, and look for bubbles. There is a tiny piece of glass or thorn embedded in your tire, or the rim tape has moved around and the edge of the spoke holes are puncturing your tubes. The location of the puncture on the tube will tell you where on the tire or rim to look.

Colin255
01-08-10, 03:31 PM
How do you ride on a flat on not notice?


Dude, I seriously don't even notice. I dunno, usually I pay attention to it (because its an issue I'm having often...) but lately I'll just look at my bike randomly and the front will be flat.

SlowRoller
01-08-10, 03:33 PM
How do I deal with this constant failure of my tires?

First, don't keep buying tubes as a solution! As others above have mentioned, there's most likely a problem with your tire/wheel. Could be something sharp embedded in your tire. Or, a spoke poking through the rim tape. A burr on the inside of your rim. A problem with how you are installing the tube at the valve hole or along the tire bead. And so on. You need to do a systematic check of your problem. When you find your tube is flat, check what kind of puncture is in your tube, where it is in relation to the tire, and look in that area of the rim and tire for the offending device. Finally, are you pumping your tires to the recommended PSI range?

LoRoK
01-08-10, 03:42 PM
I'm wondering if it's because you aren't inflating your tires enough. You would have to be riding at a seriously low PSI to not notice if you got a flat. You're probably pinch-flatting if that's the case.

LoRoK
01-08-10, 03:43 PM
Haha, should read: problem with your tire/wheel.

There's an edit button.

Edit: For Bryguy, I didn't want the "helpful" information for the OP to get overlooked for my good-humored nit-picking, so yes I double posted.

bryguy27007
01-08-10, 04:07 PM
There's an edit button.

He says as he double posts.

:innocent:

Brian
01-08-10, 05:13 PM
I do not know why road tires are so ****ty.


Agreed. It's so annoying to have to check them twice a day. I don't know why everyone else even puts up with that.

Seriously, do you know how to work on a bike? It's not rocket science. (unless you're laying up omni-directional carbon fiber) Plenty of advice can be had on the forums or your LBS, but you actually put up with this for weeks?

Andy_K
01-08-10, 05:17 PM
Dude, I seriously don't even notice. I dunno, usually I pay attention to it (because its an issue I'm having often...) but lately I'll just look at my bike randomly and the front will be flat.

When you look at your bike and see that the tire is flat is it while riding, right after riding or after it's been sitting for a while?

There have been a number of times that I've ridden my bike to work and arrived without a hint of a problem and then after work I found there wasn't a bit of air pressure in the tire. This is typical when you have a slow leak, which is itself typical when you have a problem with your tire or rim tape.

The one time I was having persistent slow leaks I tracked it down to a piece of glass embedded in my tire. I couldn't feel it when I ran my finger along the tire because it was embedded in the tread and only poked out under pressure. I finally tracked it down by matching the hole in my tube to the trouble spot in the tire and digging in the tiny slit I found there with an awl. This is why it's useful to center the valve on the tire logo, incidentally.

Leukybear
01-08-10, 07:04 PM
Did you check the inside of your tire to make sure there is no glass or other debris stuck in it?

This sounds like the most usual culprit.....
It also helps to check the exterior of the tire.... as sometimes the foreign object doesnt go all the way through with the tube deflated and vice versa......
SO whenever you re-inflate it doesnt go flat all of a sudden as that foreign object with the tires help plugs the hole in the tube, so the air instead leaks slowly.

spcialzdspksman
01-08-10, 08:23 PM
Im sick and tired of flat god damn tires.

My stock tube kept going flat on me, even though I found NO leaks in it whatsoever. So finally, after weeks of having to re-pump my tires up once or twice a day, I decided to buy a new ******** tube. So I hit up the BS and I get one, ride home, go to sleep, next day-- its flat. I do not know why road tires are so ****ty.


Im worried because half the times I get a flat, I'm riding on my bike and I don't even realize its flat till I get home. This is pissing me off because now my front tire is not spinning very true any more and Im worried this is going to 'eff with my front brake usage.


/end rant/


How do I deal with this constant failure of my tires?

You could have also punctured the tube when you mounted your tire. Do you use tire levers? If you punch in at the wrong spot or too hard, then you're screwed.
Or it might just be a pressure issue.
Normally, its a better idea to inflate them to the highest recommended pressure level (hell, I usually go over a bit).
Otherwise, a pressure that is too low will cause too much strain on your tubes and tires over uneven surfaces, which may lead to a pinch flat.
And as stated above, check if there are any sharp things poking out along side your rim tape. If your spokes are too tight, they may poke through the tube as well.

Colin255
01-08-10, 08:59 PM
I would notice it was flat after it had been sitting for a while. Obviously Im not going to ride on a flat tire, and I pump it to 110 psi every time, no question.

evotion
01-08-10, 09:03 PM
check your rim tape, check the inside of the tire for rocks, pebbles, thorns, etc.

ADSR
01-08-10, 10:30 PM
I've had times where I couldn't find the object that was poking into my tube. I ended up going along the outside of the tire and sort of rolling it back and forth between my fingers until the tiny bits of glass were revealed. It's kind of a pain, but it beats spending money to replace an otherwise perfectly good tire.

Colin255
01-08-10, 11:19 PM
Well i'll be dammed, there was SMALL SMALL bits of broken glass lining the rim wall.


Haha, damn me. Well thanks for the advice guys I know what to do from now on -_-

ADSR
01-08-10, 11:26 PM
Next time you go to buy tires I recommend you get something puncture resistant. Continental Gatorskins or GP-4 Seasons, Specialized Armadillos, Vittoria Randonneurs, Schwalbe Duranos, etc. all have some sort of layer to keep out the sharp things.

carleton
01-09-10, 12:37 AM
To the OP:

http://media.rei.com/media/545060Lrg.jpg

The best $3.50 you will ever spend on your bike.

dooodstevenn
01-10-10, 12:35 AM
seriously, i have a feeling is something simple, like crappy rim tape, tires not inflated to proper psi, leaving the presta valve open, not checking your tires and rims for chips, or debris,

OR the one i see allll the time, not properly installing a tube and/ or mounting your tires

bbattle
01-10-10, 07:10 AM
A good way to check your tires is to turn them inside out. Tiny pieces of glass, wire, etc. are easier to spot. Or to feel; I usually slowly run my finger along the tire and can feel the debris before I see it.

When faced with mystery flats, new rim tape does the trick.

evotion
01-10-10, 12:02 PM
Well i'll be dammed, there was SMALL SMALL bits of broken glass lining the rim wall.


Haha, damn me. Well thanks for the advice guys I know what to do from now on -_-


calm down guys. he already figured it out.

Scrodzilla
01-10-10, 03:37 PM
We all know that doesn't really matter here.

queerpunk
01-10-10, 04:01 PM
Im sick and tired of flat god damn tires.

My stock tube kept going flat on me, even though I found NO leaks in it whatsoever. So finally, after weeks of having to re-pump my tires up once or twice a day, I decided to buy a new ******** tube. So I hit up the BS and I get one, ride home, go to sleep, next day-- its flat. I do not know why road tires are so ****ty.


Im worried because half the times I get a flat, I'm riding on my bike and I don't even realize its flat till I get home. This is pissing me off because now my front tire is not spinning very true any more and Im worried this is going to 'eff with my front brake usage.


/end rant/


How do I deal with this constant failure of my tires?

first of all, if your tube keeps going flat and you can't find any leaks, it means that there are leaks you can't find. this is called a slow leak, and since you can't find it, it usually means that the tube is done. cause if you can't find it, you can't patch it. spend four bucks on a new tube. if the new tube goes flat, it's time to look at other causes - did you run your fingers along the inside and outside of the tire to check for any glass or shards of anything embedded in it? did you make sure that your rim tape is adequately protecting the tube from the spoke holes? do you keep your tires pumped to a level where you'll avoid pinch flats?

if you don't even realize that your tire is flat while you're riding it, i'm not sure if you can blame the road tires.

jakerock
01-10-10, 11:50 PM
Next time you go to buy tires I recommend you get something puncture resistant. Continental Gatorskins or GP-4 Seasons, Specialized Armadillos, Vittoria Randonneurs, Schwalbe Duranos, etc. all have some sort of layer to keep out the sharp things.

heh... My personal experience is this: Puncture resistant tires are a waste of $$$.
Its 100% luck of the draw whether you get a flat or not. You will be fixing flats no matter what if you ride a bike. Save the extra $$$ for beer and drugs / investment banking / banjo lessons.

LupinIII
01-11-10, 03:41 AM
i've come to dislike the velox cloth rim tape. it's too skinny and sometimes slides around. then like a mm of spoke hole gets uncovered and the tube pops.

i like that vinyl stuff, like on bdop cycling (what my lbs carries, some red plastic material). much cleaner install, covers the width of my rim well and doesn't slide around.

jack002
01-12-10, 07:45 AM
heh... My personal experience is this: Puncture resistant tires are a waste of $$$.
Its 100% luck of the draw whether you get a flat or not. You will be fixing flats no matter what if you ride a bike. Save the extra $$$ for beer and drugs / investment banking / banjo lessons.


Wrong. I have the Bontrager tough tires (whatever they call them) and they're better than the no name kevlar belted tires I had. NO FLATS. Period.

Surely some of you other posters ride a lot more than I do can tell him that.

ismellfish2
01-12-10, 07:53 AM
My friend biked from Buenos Aires up through Panama. He had lots of flats at first until he started running Schwalbe Marathons, which were tough enough to keep going. He was riding on pavement mostly but some gravel and generally non-ideal terrain. The type of tire definitely makes a drastic difference in how puncture resistant it is.

That said, the OP probably is dealing with an installation problem, or something sharp in the tire or rim.

Scrodzilla
01-12-10, 07:59 AM
I think we're still missing the part where he figured it out.

TejanoTrackie
01-12-10, 08:21 AM
I think we're still missing the part where he figured it out.

Most people just read the OP and then throw in their 2 cents. They are too lazy to read the whole thread.

bbattle
01-12-10, 11:06 AM
I think we're still missing the part where he figured it out.

It was right before you said it didn't really matter here.

Next week, there'll be another flat tire thread and the circle is complete.

Scrodzilla
01-12-10, 11:11 AM
HAHA...You're right.

Colin255
01-12-10, 02:17 PM
heh... My personal experience is this: Puncture resistant tires are a waste of $$$.
Its 100% luck of the draw whether you get a flat or not. You will be fixing flats no matter what if you ride a bike. Save the extra $$$ for beer and drugs / investment banking / banjo lessons.


Haha finally some advice I WANT to hear.

dooodstevenn
01-18-10, 12:00 PM
Well i'll be dammed, there was SMALL SMALL bits of broken glass lining the rim wall.


Haha, damn me. Well thanks for the advice guys I know what to do from now on -_-

i was right, it was something extremely simple, take like 30 seconds to run your fingers through your tire, and rim...

erichsia
01-18-10, 12:42 PM
i was right, it was something extremely simple, take like 30 seconds to run your fingers through your tire, and rim...

way to pat yourself on the back :rolleyes: