Foo - Is the telephone box my property? Backfeeding vonage into household wiring.
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01-11-10, 01:06 PM
All of my household telephone wiring converges into one box, located outside the house, which then interfaces with my telephone provider's system. I'm sure there's a technical term for this.
In any event, I've recently switched to Vonage and would like to backfeed the signal into the entire house, as we've got three wall phones in addition to our cordless system.
I understand I need to wire a phone cable into that box, which will distribute the signal to the house. I have a few concerns:
I believe there's 48V going through a phone line. AT&T's 48V + Vonages 48V = 96 electronic-frying volts. I have canceled all service with AT&T, but I want to completely disconnect AT&T's wiring from the box to eliminate any possibility of damage to my phones, then wire in a phone line coming from the VoIP adapter provided by Vonage.
Is this legal? Is the box I speak of my property, or is it AT&T's?
01-11-10, 01:10 PM
Once you unplug the incoming wire - you can plug anything into it you like, or, simply plugging your feed into any interior outlet box will accomplish the same thing. Just make sure the incoming plug is disabled.
Technically, the box belongs to the phone company, but they never come collect them after discontinuing service.
01-11-10, 01:33 PM
Actually, I think they only own the right-half (I'm serious). Its easy to do. Go for it.
01-11-10, 02:14 PM
The phone company owns, and is therefor responsible, for all external wiring. The home owner owns and is responsible for all internal wiring. (If you feel like proving it, ask the phone company to repair a rat chewed phone line in the attic - they won't, or will charge a lot).
The external/internal interface occures in the Residential Box, which is usually attached to the outside of the house somewhere. As was said, the resident owns half of whats in the box, but the phone company owns the actual box.
01-11-10, 02:15 PM
Alright, well they never said anything about collecting the box when I canceled their service, so I'm cutting :D.
01-11-10, 03:36 PM
48 volts + 48 volts =48 volts. The circuit would be parallel.
01-11-10, 04:04 PM
It's all done now. I ran a 20' phone cable from the VoIP adapter to the network interface box (learned the name). I used crimps and heat shrunk everything. It appears that only 2 of the 4 wires are actually used, which I think I knew already. This was surprisingly a very easy task.
01-11-10, 04:12 PM
Glad for you there were not energy sources in the system when you went live (so that the router wasn't trashed). For the next person, read something like this (http://michigantelephone.workbench.net/) before hooking up.
01-11-10, 04:37 PM
What do you mean "energy sources"? The router isn't a part of the circuit here; it deals with my cat5 network which isn't involved in what I did today. Our house was built in 1958, so it doesn't use cat5 for telephone.
01-11-10, 07:50 PM
The box is called the "demarc", the line of demarcation between the phone company and the home owners wiring. It belongs to the phone company, but they won't know and don't care it you use it. Just unplug the short jumper connecting the two halves of the box, and it's no longer connected to the phone company. They have probably already disconnected the wiring at the pole or street junction box anyway.
Your ISP is somebody other than ATT, right?
01-11-10, 10:23 PM
My ISP is Comcast, who is the only one offering cable internet in my area. For all the horrible things people say about Comcast, I can't remember the last time our internet was down -- it must have been years ago.
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