Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Which Knog light is the safest (in relation to how much it costs)?

Frog, Skink, Bullfrog, Beetle, Gekko, Toad, Boomer?

Seriously?

Start over. What is the brightest light I can buy with a low budget?

Start over. What is the brightest light I can buy with a low budget?

This one is Brighter then a PBSF.

http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/19340-225_SETSF9-2-Accessories-35-Lights/Sette-ST-316-Glo-Safety-Light.htm

Frog, Skink, Bullfrog, Beetle, Gekko, Toad, Boomer?

Those lights (dubbed "hipster cysts" by BSNYC) are for aesthetics, not safety.

If you're interested in staying safe on a budget, check out - http://www.performancebike.com/bikes/TopCategory_10052_10551_400014_-1_400014_Y

All knogs in my opinion not bright enough for you, the bicyclist, to see but enough/barely enough (in the case of frogs) for others (motorists) to see you....if you want "safest" I would recommend you look else where..... cateye makes good lights IMO. ;)

knogs are great for pictures on fgg

Seriously?

I know it's in the wrong category, but it's too late to delete it, i think, if that's why you're saying that.

I know it's in the wrong category, but it's too late to delete it, i think, if that's why you're saying that.

I think he just meant you're being a total ****ing ****** with your choices.

I almost drove into a cyclist with a knog light. That white speck of light didn't make it clear that anything was there, let alone a bicycle. IMO, those lights are enough to make your bicycle street legal but not visible.

I almost drove into a cyclist with a knog light. That white speck of light didn't make it clear that anything was there, let alone a bicycle. IMO, those lights are enough to make your bicycle street legal but not visible.

+1

Which Knog light is the safest (in relation to how much it costs)?

Frog, Skink, Bullfrog, Beetle, Gekko, Toad, Boomer? = honest question


I almost drove into a cyclist with a knog light. That white speck of light didn't make it clear that anything was there, let alone a bicycle. IMO, those lights are enough to make your bicycle street legal but not visible = useful info


I think he just meant you're being a total ****ing ****** with your choices
= ****ing ******

The Bullfrogs are bright though, good enough to make you seen

= honest question

= useful info


= ****ing ******


http://ptpower.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/knowitall.gif...

The most expensive one, bullfrog? I'd say the only bad one is the frog. Kinda pointless.

i have a planet bike superflash $25

random picture from google:
http://www.ecovelo.info/images/pb-superflash.jpg

I had the bullfrog, it worked okay but definitely didn't give me the feeling of "safe". I went out a got a superflash the other day, and a crazy high powered head lamp. Now I feel safe.

planetbike blaze 2w upfront with a superflash in the back is about as good as i've seen without getting into expensive lights that run on battery packs.

you can get away with a blaze 1/2w just to be seen but i'd spend the extra 10-20 bucks on the 1w or 2w as they are bright enough to actually use to navigate a dark road. and on flash they are ridiculously bright and noticable.

knog has a nice design but the LED's are seriously lagging behind the current technology.

I'd go with the frogs if you walk your bike on the sidewalk, the low lumen count (believe they are 10 lumen) will make it harder for shady types to see you and steal your tarck.

Personally, I go with:

3w BD Icon zip-tied to helmet (100 lumens):

http://www.bigfirecampinggear.com/images/BD_Icon.jpg

And superflash in back:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2179/2404816554_55ef1494fd_o.jpg

btw, just read about Fibre Flare on the other thread. It's kinda old news i know, but I thought this might be another good option.
Only down side is that it's more pricey than Planet Bike light.

http://urbanvelo.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/interbike_2009_day2_43.jpg
the tube bends. You can place it almost anywhere. Clips can go onto ur clothes or bags even. Or any part of ur bike that doesn't get in the way of movement. Suppose to be quite bright as well. Comes in 4 colors.

check the 99 cent store near you. they got lights and you can't beat the price.

i have a planet bike superflash $25

random picture from google:
http://www.ecovelo.info/images/pb-superflash.jpg

FTW! i guess it might be a bit pricey but its totally worth it.

guys, you're all know-it-alls that don't know ****.

the boomer is a 1w just like the superflash. it's going to be comparable in visibility.

it's 30, and to me the extra five dollars for knog's silicon band attachment is probably worth it. i'm having a hard time not buying one simply because i HATE clipping and unclipping the superflash stealth between my different bikes.

guys, you're all know-it-alls that don't know ****.

the boomer is a 1w just like the superflash. it's going to be comparable in visibility.

it's 30, and to me the extra five dollars for knog's silicon band attachment is probably worth it. i'm having a hard time not buying one simply because i HATE clipping and unclipping the superflash stealth between my different bikes.

+1 for no clips! I got that new upgraded frog, and other than it losing brightness kinda (it say 80hrs blinking, which is true but not at full brightness for sure) quick it was a great light. but at $8 per battery set and it being no brighter than a normal frog after like 6hrs, kinda isnt worth it.

Who cares? As long as you're street legal and your light blinks, **** it.
I used Knogs cos I got them for cheap and I can take them on and off quick.

Where I live, NOBODY has any idea how to drive. Just cycling alone here is a death wish. Everyone I know here has been hit by a car at least once, including myself.

Don't spend a ton of money on lights, use it on real components that matter.

if you want ultra bright, get this: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20333
however, build quality of a PBSF is better.



Who cares? As long as you're street legal and your light blinks, **** it.
I used Knogs cos I got them for cheap and I can take them on and off quick.

Where I live, NOBODY has any idea how to drive. Just cycling alone here is a death wish. Everyone I know here has been hit by a car at least once, including myself.

Don't spend a ton of money on lights, use it on real components that matter.

when you have to deal with insurance or press charges, it'll be much easier to submit your claim if you have a really good light.

"you have to be blind to not see this cyclist at night"

and what's the point of spending your money on quality components when they're going to be squished by a car, simply because you didn't have good lights?

i have two of those K-2 Luxeons and my god, they're bright. like, dangerously bright.

i even rigged one up to clip into a fizik seat ICS mount, it was CRAZY.

I want a Fibre Flare now.

Who cares? As long as you're street legal and your light blinks, **** it.
I used Knogs cos I got them for cheap and I can take them on and off quick.

Where I live, NOBODY has any idea how to drive. Just cycling alone here is a death wish. Everyone I know here has been hit by a car at least once, including myself.

Don't spend a ton of money on lights, use it on real components that matter.


Worst advice ever. Spend maybe $10 more, dont get hit by car. Sounds pretty good to me, unless you enjoy getting hit by cars, you're crazy, etc.
Also, OP doesnt live where you live so his situation may be different than yours, which I assume it is.

Anyone who can say, everyone they know has been hit by a car, should be a little more concerned about safety than you.

i've been hit by a car during the day, head on.

the point here is that knog frogs are fine on a well lit city street. anyone who would hit you in that kind of condition is probably not going to be that much more aware unless you're shining a flashlight directly into their eyeballs.

the point that i'm making is that the knog BOOMER which was INCLUDED IN THE OP'S QUESTION is comparably as bright as a PBSF and is by far the safest light listed in the OP's post.

Who cares? As long as you're street legal and your light blinks, **** it.
I used Knogs cos I got them for cheap and I can take them on and off quick.

Where I live, NOBODY has any idea how to drive. Just cycling alone here is a death wish. Everyone I know here has been hit by a car at least once, including myself.

Don't spend a ton of money on lights, use it on real components that matter.

wtf???

people drive like ****ing morons in LA too, from Beverly Hills to Hollywood to Downtown to the Valley to Santa Monica to Inglewood etc. I've been hit by a car and so have many others. No one will say don't use lights. When I drive at night I see people riding without lights and I feel like the only reason I saw them is because I'm looking for cyclists. I can't image how inattentive drivers that don't cycle are. But the cyclists that do have good lights are easily seen.

here's the dx flashlight with the k2 red luxeon, attached to an ICS clip for use on fizik saddles:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/4676782169_f3607fc821_o.jpg
it's extremely directional, so sometimes i aim it at the ground behind me.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/4676782311_7a6b0cfbe6_o.jpg
i also do that so people aren't blinded. it's stupid bright. this is in daylight through a window:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/4677413338_a369d7eabf_o.jpg

as for knogs, the booster is going to be awesome, and much less directional than this flashlight.
also, the flashlight is heavy and you have to buy batteries and charger, so it comes out to as much as a pbsf or the booster.

http://www.dealextreme.com/products.dx/category.904

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21314

http://www.dealextreme.com/products.dx/category.905

i've decided my knog frogs are now going to live on my helmet exclusively. i was caught out an hour and a half after sundown last night with no lights and no reflectors. frogs are better than nothing, by a LOT.

i've decided my knog frogs are now going to live on my helmet exclusively. i was caught out an hour and a half after sundown last night with no lights and no reflectors. frogs are better than nothing, by a LOT.

couldn't agree with you more.

They're pricey, but I decided to splurge on the Blackburn Fleas, both front and rear. Not as bright as a flashlight, cree light or headlamp (which would be the next step up), but they're extremely visible, compact (fits on a fork blade or seatpost just like Frogs) and USB-rechargeable.

I gave my Knog Frogs away.

the only reason i'd get fleas would be for their charging capabilities. but they're very directional for such an expensive light. and blink/constant is kind of limited. i like to change that kind of thing up. i find their strobe distracting but not alarming.

I like the dx knog frog knockoffs just to keep in a bag or attached to my bike for when I'm stuck without proper lights. Like cc700 said, they are much better than nothing and cost <$5.

Who cares? As long as you're street legal and your light blinks, **** it.
I used Knogs cos I got them for cheap and I can take them on and off quick.

Where I live, NOBODY has any idea how to drive. Just cycling alone here is a death wish. Everyone I know here has been hit by a car at least once, including myself.

Don't spend a ton of money on lights, use it on real components that matter.

Nope not a single bit. It actually amazes me how bad drivers are here... Death wish might be a bit strong... also on that same note i am amazed at how many cyclist here dont use lights at all... portland seems to have a no lights issue as drivers forget their lights all the time...

drivers forget their lights all the time...

This is why daytime running lights are good.

Who cares? As long as you're street legal and your light blinks, **** it.
I used Knogs cos I got them for cheap and I can take them on and off quick.

Where I live, NOBODY has any idea how to drive. Just cycling alone here is a death wish. Everyone I know here has been hit by a car at least once, including myself.

Don't spend a ton of money on lights, use it on real components that matter.
lol @ cycling in portland is a death wish.
you're putting the death wish on yourself if the only reason u have lights is so that ur bike is 'street legal'

anyway, my next bike is gonna get fibre flares! with combination of other headlights, of course
http://www.bentrideronline.com/gallery/1/1232-fiber%20flare.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/aquatek/15b0c84264a241c0d710f646d78c0e76.jpg

easy to put on / remove, nice and bright led's, and just plain peachy. $11 for both.

I have the Knog Beetle for local ordinance requirements. I only ride at night on well-lit local roads through... when and if I plan to go on longer night rides I'll definitely invest in a higher powered light.

blackburn flea. never need to buy batteries. be seen, save the planet...a little bit.

Who cares? As long as you're street legal and your light blinks, **** it.
I used Knogs cos I got them for cheap and I can take them on and off quick.

Where I live, NOBODY has any idea how to drive. Just cycling alone here is a death wish. Everyone I know here has been hit by a car at least once, including myself.

Don't spend a ton of money on lights, use it on real components that matter.

Worst. Post. Evar.

1. If you bought proper lights, maybe you wouldn't get hit.

2. Not everyone in Portland has been hit by a car. Don't know if you realize this, but you live in one of the most bike friendly cities in the U.S. I have ridden there and have good friends who ride a lot and live there, and I don't think any of them have been hit by cars...

blackburn flea. never need to buy batteries. be seen, save the planet...a little bit.

eh I have had bad experiences w/ this light. Doesn't hold a charge long enough. Also, the strap on mine broke in half

eh I have had bad experiences w/ this light. Doesn't hold a charge long enough. Also, the strap on mine broke in half

I have had mine for over a year. Front and rear. Hold a charge well (flashing lasts over 3 hours), easily re-charged, straps work well and attach anywhere. Very versatile, bright, well designed light.
These reflect my experiences with this product. YMMV.
Also, blackburn customer service is top notch. Lifetime warranty. I had a floor pump blow a seal, made a phone call, and had a new one in 3 days at no charge to me.

~D

Get the Planet Bike Superflash, like many have been recommending. I used to have a cheap 3 LED rear light that I got for $6, but it really wasn't bright enough to be useful after dusk. Just recently bought the superflash as a replacement.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBFjzcSotzw
(Skip to one minute in to see the light turned on.)

And like everyone and their mother has already pointed out, the idea that lights are not an "important component" is, well, completely idiotic. Wanting to not get hit by cars is for suckers!!! :lol:

that guy is a terrible review writer/commentator.

if that's you, i'm sorry for the unsolicited critique. but uh, yeah. it's obvious that the flash is just outside the dynamic range of that camera's exposure mode. which, unfortunately, most flashing led's will be. so all we really have to go on is the accompanying words, "really, really, really bright." which is just... not very, very, very descriptive. some rehearsal and writing/scripting would really help that review out. instead of a general, 'uh... it's awesome. yeah.'

the PBSF is great, i'm not faulting it in the least... but i hate, nay, loathe... the clip mechanism and on-off switch on them. i always bump them on in my bag and I always feel like i'm going to break the clip, even though I never have. plus, to put it on multiple bikes you need to buy multiple mounts.

the knog boomer uses a 1W strobing led just like the PBSF does and if it's not as bright and attention-grabbing I'll be astounded. plus, for the extra five dollars you lose the two BS flashing led's but gain a much more water resistant cover, better switch, and more versatile mounting mechanism. If i had thirty dollars to burn through, i'd order one right away.

ANY 1w led that is designed to halfway decent specs, with that type of optic over it(projecting is the proper word btw, not magnifying.) is going to be bright enough for all 'being seen' use. my 3w flashlight pictured above is far too much light, and the difference between a pbsf and the boomer is going to be negligible.

that guy is a terrible review writer/commentator.
Haha, I didn't even notice since my sound wasn't on; I was just looking for a video that showed the light blinking.


the knog boomer uses a 1W strobing led just like the PBSF does and if it's not as bright and attention-grabbing I'll be astounded. plus, for the extra five dollars you lose the two BS flashing led's but gain a much more water resistant cover, better switch, and more versatile mounting mechanism. If i had thirty dollars to burn through, i'd order one right away.
Really? I haven't used the PBSF in the rain yet, but I thought it was pretty water resistant. I know that the regular red/white version isn't, but the design of the Stealth version (black/clear) was changed to fix this, or at least improve it, I thought.

I personally have the PBSF Stealth, since I read lots of reviews of people recommending over the original. They cost the same.

i have a first gen stealth, before they changed the design.
they changed the regular too when they rolled out the smoked version of the stealth.

i'm just saying the knog silicon is tighter of a seal than the thin rubber ring around the pbsf.