Bicycle Mechanics - 23.8mm Seatpost Dilemma

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Rudomanski
01-15-10, 06:20 PM
Hi All,

I recently bought a 1987 Peugeot Corbier Frame which came with fork, stem, and crankset. I am pretty much set restoring this bike, although I just realized after searching the net for hours that the seatpost size (23.8mm) is abnormal and very hard to find. I've come across many posts of people with the same problem, but not any solutions that seem feasible. The best solution I found was the 24mm post custom made on yellowjersey.org, but this costs $70, and I'm really trying to keep this a budget project (paid 25 bucks for the frame).

Many people seem to say shimming a 22.2mm is the best solution, but even those posts with a rail mount on top seem tough to find, and shims that fit this also don't seem to exist. The soda can shim solution seems to be popular, but is this safe, and will it hold up to daily aggressive riding? Any other safe budget solutions are welcome.

Thanks in Advance,
Zach


Drakonchik
01-16-10, 11:31 AM
One solution is to pull an aluminum alloy 24.0 post off another old French bike and file it down to 23.8, which entails removing just .1mm off the radius, easy to do by hand in about 1/2 hr.

If you've got a local resource with a lot of cast off seat posts that would be where I'd look.

Torchy McFlux
01-16-10, 12:16 PM
Requests for weird-sized French seatposts are a common occurance around here.
I'm a little surprised some enterprising machinist with a lathe somewhere hasn't decided to whip off some 22.0, 23.4, 23.8, and 24.0 posts from some aluminum round bar stock, send them off for clear anodizing with their other stuff, and flog them on their website. It's not a difficult project, and sales would be coming in from all over the place. Guess their insurance company wouldn't like it though.


chucky
01-16-10, 07:29 PM
Just make sure you have plenty of extra post in the seat tube and use a shim.

It's perfectly safe. For proof just take a look at some of the seat posts on folding bikes.

operator
01-16-10, 07:38 PM
Requests for weird-sized French seatposts are a common occurance around here.
I'm a little surprised some enterprising machinist with a lathe somewhere hasn't decided to whip off some 22.0, 23.4, 23.8, and 24.0 posts from some aluminum round bar stock, send them off for clear anodizing with their other stuff, and flog them on their website. It's not a difficult project, and sales would be coming in from all over the place. Guess their insurance company wouldn't like it though.

I'm going to wager not enough demand.

Binxsy
01-17-10, 01:04 AM
http://www.use1.com/products/seat_post_shims/index.php

shims of all sizes...

Panthers007
01-17-10, 02:39 AM
QBP doesn't even come close to a 23.8mm seatpost. 22mm to 25.4 is blank. Use a shim. there is no way you could open the seat-tube wide enough to swallow a 25.4mm. And unless you have some old bike-shops around with lots of old parts in dusty boxes - good luck finding an old Francaise model to match/file. So I suggest 22mm and thin aluminum. You'll have fun fitting it - so prepare for experiments.

Need a QR seatpost-clamp?

http://www.loosescrews.com/index.cgi?d=single&c=Seatpost&sc=Binder%20Bolts&tc=&item_id=AP-STP-A&id=6279015687

I checked all the usual suspects - no one carries a ready-made shim for your purpose.

Rudomanski
01-17-10, 04:15 PM
Thanks all, I have alot of lbs's around here but none that save any older french stuff. I'll have to try shimming, does anywhere know a place i could get a good 22mm post that supports rails?

I_bRAD
01-17-10, 04:38 PM
why don't you just use a separate clamp?

Panthers007
01-18-10, 03:30 AM
why don't you just use a separate clamp?

Yep - best way. It's not going to be cheap & retro - but it will work.

Grand Bois
01-19-10, 08:21 AM
One solution is to pull an aluminum alloy 24.0 post off another old French bike and file it down to 23.8, which entails removing just .1mm off the radius, easy to do by hand in about 1/2 hr.

If you've got a local resource with a lot of cast off seat posts that would be where I'd look.

That's the solution, but don't use a file. Use emery cloth. I've done it a few times. switch to finer grits when you get close to the size you want and then repolish the post. A pad sander will speed the process, but isn't required.

Both of these have been sanded to fit:

http://inlinethumb28.webshots.com/43867/2421886500068014369S600x600Q85.jpg (http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2421886500068014369yfGcca)
http://inlinethumb24.webshots.com/44567/2738706290068014369S600x600Q85.jpg (http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2738706290068014369VyKYrV)

Steev
01-19-10, 10:35 AM
http://www.use1.com/products/seat_post_shims/index.php

shims of all sizes...

...starting from 25mm ID and up, not a lot of use to the OP.

Grand Bois
01-19-10, 11:55 AM
I don't remember what sizes were involved, but the top one was taken down quite a bit and it took along time. The bottom one is a 26.6 in a 26.4 hole and it didn't take long at all. The idea is to keep it round by sanding it equally all the way around. Turn it constantly. Both posts need repolishing in the pictures. A few seconds with some Mother's and they'll be beautiful again. They were both used posts and the resizing eliminated the scratches.

DannoXYZ
01-19-10, 12:58 PM
Go to a bike-shop that specializes in BMX. Buy a 15/16" seatpost.

Rudomanski
01-20-10, 03:42 PM
If I could get my hands on a 24mm post I definitely would sand it down like you described, but from my understanding, such posts are about as rare as 23.8 mm.

griftereck
01-20-10, 04:03 PM
Ive got a 24mm post, but its got a rusty bolt holding it together.
Also Im in Scotland. So not much use to you.

would reaming out the frame not work?

cnnrmccloskey
01-20-10, 04:17 PM
http://inlinethumb24.webshots.com/44567/2738706290068014369S600x600Q85.jpg (http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2738706290068014369VyKYrV)

Is that a Gitane service coarse?

Looks like mine without the bridge for centerpull brakes