Foo - important and interesting scene from inglourious basterds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eokxh65WQGA

what King Kong was really about, according to Tarantino in "Fresh Air"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eokxh65WQGA

what King Kong was really about, according to Tarantino in "Fresh Air"

foo.

ps - meep.

That movie was entertaining, yet incredibly stupid. Like all Tarantino films.






Like BF itself.

That movie was entertaining, yet incredibly stupid. Like all HM threads.







corrected.

Pointlessness is incredibly useful. Pcad Cycling Zen lies therein.

Pointlessness is incredibly useful. Pcad Cycling Zen lies therein.

Pcad Cycling Zen lies within my job? :eek:

Pointlessness is incredibly useful. Pcad Cycling Zen lies therein.

If this is indeed true, which I suspect it is, then I consider my life an homage to Pcad. A performance piece of futility.

How awesome: a Nazi, Gestapo officer lecturing the audience about US slavery.

OK, so...

What was the point? Merely to belittle the US in front of co-Nazis? I don't think so--in context, he should have been making comments to draw people out, considering his already established doubts about them. But there was only one citizen of the USA among the group of four conspirators at the table and the most lame imposter was English. I suppose you could say that since the Gestapo officer couldn't place the English dood's accent, he might as well have tried to flush him out with a slight on the US, maybe especially if you consider that he also might have suspected they were Basterds from the start.

But ultimately, it's Tarantino, doing something typically Tarantinian: throwing out a pithy judgmental comment on something of great import within the context of total film geekdom.

Pcad Cycling Zen interferes with my job? :eek:


fify

ps - meep.


Oh gawd, botto. :lol: That's messed up.


Why do you both go meeping at each other?? That just cracks me up.

How awesome: a Nazi, Gestapo officer lecturing the audience about US slavery.

OK, so...

What was the point? Merely to belittle the US in front of co-Nazis? I don't think so--in context, he should have been making comments to draw people out, considering his already established doubts about them. But there was only one citizen of the USA among the group of four conspirators at the table and the most lame imposter was English. I suppose you could say that since the Gestapo officer couldn't place the English dood's accent, he might as well have tried to flush him out with a slight on the US, maybe especially if you consider that he also might have suspected they were Basterds from the start.

But ultimately, it's Tarantino, doing something typically Tarantinian: throwing out a pithy judgmental comment on something of great import within the context of total film geekdom.

do you thnk King Kong is really about White fear of the Black man?

Oh I get it. Let's steer this by way of P and R so that it gets moved back there.

Let's talk about that Huge Japanese Lizard instead. He was more scary. With his bad breath and all. I think that movie is about fear of reptiles.

Your right. I'm not scared of lizards, just the huge city destroying ones.

Oh gawd, botto. :lol: That's messed up.


Why do you both go meeping at each other?? That just cracks me up.

Its a shared language only they can understand....like the call of the love birds. :innocent:

Your right. I'm not scared of lizards, just the huge city destroying ones.

Well with all of the development that was going on, there's been a lot of species that have been run out. As a matter of fact, one of the developers got a fine for destroying the habitat around here where the butterflies come every year.


Its a shared language only they can understand....like the call of the love birds. :innocent:

Love birds coo, don't they?

Oh I get it. Let's steer this by way of P and R so that it gets moved back there.

Let's talk about that Huge Japanese Lizard instead. He was more scary. With his bad breath and all. I think that movie is about fear of reptiles.

no, what you didn't get was what the thread was ABOUT. Here is part of the transcript..... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112286584

GROSS: Oh I love that.
Mr. TARANTINO: I think it has one of those big moments in it. And it's interesting watching it, because I've seen it now in a few different countries now - that scene - and it's, you know, and to me it's very interesting. I mean to me it's very obvious. I mean, of course "King Kong" is a metaphor for the slave trade. I'm not saying the makers of "King Kong" meant it to be that way, but that's what, that's the movie that they made - whether they meant to make it or not.
To me "King Kong" is a metaphor for America's fear of the black male. And to me that's obvious. All right? So I mean that was one of the first things I said when I was talking to a friend of mine after he saw Peter Jackson's version of "King Kong." And I said, you know, is the racial metaphors in there? Is the racial subtext in there? And he goes no. And I go, well then that's just a story of a big monkey.
(Soundbite of laughter)
Mr. TARANTINO: What that about? But I'm still shocked at people, a lot of people don't even look at it as that. So when the character says it in the movie, it's like - there's like - actually I've seen shock and then applause of people realizing it for the very first time that "King Kong" is a metaphor for the slave trade. And I even love the fact that it's a Gestapo major...
(Soundbite of laughter)
GROSS: Right.
Mr. TARANTINO: ...who is actually calling America on its racist past.
(Soundbite of laughter)
GROSS: So in the scene that we just heard...

Okay so what's your point besides making a mess of your post with the over laps, large colored (oooh is that racist?) lettering and shouting?

Think what you want to think and allow others the freedom to do the same.

Oh and by the way, another large developer damaged the habitat of the red legged frog and only got somewhere along the lines of a 1.5 million dollar fine.

Edit: For records' sake, this is not to be taken personally, Hannah. I'm just messin' with you. :)

Okay so what's your point besides making a mess of your post with the over laps, large colored (oooh is that racist?) lettering and shouting?

Think what you want to think and allow others the freedom to do the same.

Oh and by the way, another large developer damaged the habitat of the red legged frog and only got somewhere along the lines of a 1.5 million dollar fine.

Edit: For records' sake, this is not to be taken personally, Hannah. I'm just messin' with you. :)

YOU: Oh I get it. Let's steer this by way of P and R so that it gets moved back there
ME: no, what you didn't get was what the thread was ABOUT. Here is part of the transcript..... (bolded to point out relevant sentences)

Oh I get it. Let's steer this by way of P and R so that it gets moved back there.

Let's talk about that Huge Japanese Lizard instead. He was more scary. With his bad breath and all. I think that movie is about fear of reptiles.


No. Godzilla, made in Japan, the only country attacked with nuclear weapons (thus far) made a movie about a monster created by the testing of nuclear weapons. His breath is radioactive as is his very presence. He rises without reason or explanation and destroys a city. Nothing can stop him. The movie is not about a fear of lizards, it is a movie about the fear of nuclear arms.

I heard that interview too. I liked the part about how he had to go to blaxploitation films by himself in his youth. He's one wierd genius.

do you thnk King Kong is really about White fear of the Black man?
Its interesting when the comparison is made in the movie. Was it intentionally done that way? I dunno, this is the first I've seen the comparison made, but thats not saying much and maybe tarantino isn't the first to point it out. It does seem to fit in with the timeline of early monster movies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_movie) with dracula, frankenstein, dinosaurs, and the mummy preceding it. Without further analysis, I'd say it could go either way (intentionally about racism vs. coincidence).

+1 on huge fonts.

s, it is a movie about the fear of nuclear arms.

Hell I was afraid of the lizard. :eek:

Okay I'm outta here. You all carry on. ;)

no, what you didn't get was what the thread was ABOUT. Here is part of the transcript..... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112286584

GROSS: Oh I love that.
Mr. TARANTINO: I think it has one of those big moments in it. And it's interesting watching it, because I've seen it now in a few different countries now - that scene - and it's, you know, and to me it's very interesting. I mean to me it's very obvious. I mean, of course "King Kong" is a metaphor for the slave trade. I'm not saying the makers of "King Kong" meant it to be that way, but that's what, that's the movie that they made - whether they meant to make it or not.
To me "King Kong" is a metaphor for America's fear of the black male. And to me that's obvious. All right? So I mean that was one of the first things I said when I was talking to a friend of mine after he saw Peter Jackson's version of "King Kong." And I said, you know, is the racial metaphors in there? Is the racial subtext in there? And he goes no. And I go, well then that's just a story of a big monkey.
(Soundbite of laughter)
Mr. TARANTINO: What that about? But I'm still shocked at people, a lot of people don't even look at it as that. So when the character says it in the movie, it's like - there's like - actually I've seen shock and then applause of people realizing it for the very first time that "King Kong" is a metaphor for the slave trade. And I even love the fact that it's a Gestapo major...
(Soundbite of laughter)
GROSS: Right.
Mr. TARANTINO: ...who is actually calling America on its racist past.
(Soundbite of laughter)
GROSS: So in the scene that we just heard...

Mr.Markets? Is that you?

Hell I was afraid of the lizard. :eek:

Okay I'm outta here. You all carry on. ;)

Ruining Foo, aren't we?

I heard that interview too. I liked the part about how he had to go to blaxploitation films by himself in his youth. He's one wierd genius.

Isn't he?

Symbolism like this fascinates me. King Kong as a metaphor for White fear of the Black man. I was always interested in why King Kong seemed sexually interested in the pristine blonde woman, why that was part of the movie dynamic. Now I have a better understanding of it.

Men always make movies about what they fear

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051380/

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa32/stonecrd/3KHU000Z.jpg

Men always make movies about what they fear

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051380/

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa32/stonecrd/3KHU000Z.jpg

"DEATH AND DESIRE" :lol:

There is so much for you to discuss in this one

Attack of the 50 Foot Woman tells the story of Nancy Archer, a wealthy alcoholic who cannot tame her blatantly cheating husband. Her troubles increase when she encounters an alien in the back deserts of California and no one believes her because they think she is drunk. When Nancy grows to a height of 50 ft. as a result of radiation exposure from contact with the alien, she is finally in a position when she can no longer be ignored

why foo? shouldn't this be in Books, Movies, Music & Entertainment?

I've seen the movie, and it would've been VASTLY improved by cutting about 30 minutes out of it. Talk about slow and p-o-n-d-e-r-o-u-s.

And QT is not as smart as he thinks he is. King Kong is a silly monster movie and NOTHING else.

Men always make movies about what they fear

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051380/

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa32/stonecrd/3KHU000Z.jpg

Note that the worst traffic crashes appear to be directly below her skirt.

There is so much for you to discuss in this one

Attack of the 50 Foot Woman tells the story of Nancy Archer, a wealthy alcoholic who cannot tame her blatantly cheating husband. Her troubles increase when she encounters an alien in the back deserts of California and no one believes her because they think she is drunk. When Nancy grows to a height of 50 ft. as a result of radiation exposure from contact with the alien, she is finally in a position when she can no longer be ignored


that IS intersting, isn't it?

the Americans in the 1930's are afraid of Black men.
the Japanese are horrified and afraid of atomic testing and weapons
the Americans are afraid of the growing discontent of women

in each case, the problem become gigantic and threatens society itself.

I've seen the movie, and it would've been VASTLY improved by cutting about 30 minutes out of it. Talk about slow and p-o-n-d-e-r-o-u-s.

And QT is not as smart as he thinks he is. King Kong is a silly monster movie and NOTHING else.

a bit of a literal thinker, I see.

I was listening ot an interview with Martin Scorcese, and he was commenting on someone who said of his movie Raging Bull, that they didn't like boxing movies. He responded, the movie is not about boxing, it about a man.

King Kong is not about a giant gorilla for crying out loud. It is about something much deeper and more complex than that. I believe that Tarantino is exactly right. It is about the fear and quilt White America feels about the Black man.

that IS intersting, isn't it?

the Americans in the 1930's are afraid of Black men.
the Japanese are horrified and afraid of atomic testing and weapons
the Americans are afraid of the growing discontent of women

in each case, the problem become gigantic and threatens society itself.

I'm not afraid of my ex wife, but she is a serious PITA. I'm not afraid of things in general except nuclear war and carnie folk.

do you thnk King Kong is really about White fear of the Black man?


No. Godzilla, made in Japan, the only country attacked with nuclear weapons (thus far) made a movie about a monster created by the testing of nuclear weapons. His breath is radioactive as is his very presence. He rises without reason or explanation and destroys a city. Nothing can stop him. The movie is not about a fear of lizards, it is a movie about the fear of nuclear arms.


Isn't he?

Symbolism like this fascinates me. King Kong as a metaphor for White fear of the Black man. I was always interested in why King Kong seemed sexually interested in the pristine blonde woman, why that was part of the movie dynamic. Now I have a better understanding of it.

meep.

meep.

awe...isn't that precious.

King Kong is not about a giant gorilla for crying out loud. It is about something much deeper and more complex than that. You're wrong.

In the 50s everyone was afraid of atomic energy and everything got big; men, women, ants. Very equal opportunity. Alas this movie has a very sad ending everyone dies including poor Nancy, her cheating husband and his mistress. Being a kid in the 60s I watched all of these B movies totally mesmorized and completely oblivious to all of the undertones.

In the 50s everyone was afraid of atomic energy and everything got big; men, women, ants. Very equal opportunity. Alas this movie has a very sad ending everyone dies including poor Nancy, her cheating husband and his mistress. Being a kid in the 60s I watched all of these B movies totally mesmorized and completely oblivious to all of the undertones.


doesn't the giant thing always die, or appear to die? i think that is part of the symbolism, the threat must be vanquished.

BTW - QT did not come up with this view of KK it has been around for a long time. There was also speculation that RKO which was very democratic made the movie as way to show how FDR would triumph over the depression (KK). Since the story was written long before I think it's meaning is what we see; man should not mess with nature and love can have tragic consequences after all Beauty killed the beast.

And The Graduate was about getting ahead in plastics. And Apocalypse Now was a war movie.

And The Graduate was about getting ahead in plastics.

really? I thought it was about having the right shades.

doesn't the giant thing always die, or appear to die? i think that is part of the symbolism, the threat must be vanquished.

That's absurd.

That's absurd.

welcome to the dysfunctional world of hannahmontana.

ps - meep.

That's absurd.

good argument! well crafted, interesting, full of substance. touche, my tights wearing advesary. touche.

And The Graduate was about getting ahead in plastics. And Apocalypse Now was a war movie.

:lol:
well said.

BTW - QT did not come up with this view of KK it has been around for a long time. There was also speculation that RKO which was very democratic made the movie as way to show how FDR would triumph over the depression (KK). Since the story was written long before I think it's meaning is what we see; man should not mess with nature and love can have tragic consequences after all Beauty killed the beast.

it is an interesting movies with lots of symbolism. the line that Kong was dead as soon as he laid eyes on the woman, that Beauty killed the Beast is fascinating. Consider how black men in that time were treated if they expressed sexual interest in white women.... lynched. Kong fought monsters of all kinds, went berserk when he saw the woman mistreated, tried to flee with her and was killed with the latest technologies by white men.

how do we react today to black men and white women? why is this skit considered so funny?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Il7QUVVGIM&feature=related

good argument! well crafted, interesting, full of substance. touche, my tights wearing advesary. touche.

meep.

Personally, I think with King Kong rampaging about New York, its an excellent time to test one of those dial-a-yield tac nukes.

Personally, I think with King Kong rampaging about New York, its an excellent time to test one of those dial-a-yield tac nukes.


yeah, well, this is why this thread should have stayed in P&R where is belonged.