Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) - help me go to Haiti

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turtlewoman
01-23-10, 05:37 PM
Okay, this is a little weird for this forum but I thought I'd give it a shot, so bear with me.
I'm a registered nurse with 25 years of varied experience. I am going to go to Haiti to help out with an organization called Heart to Heart International. I put a plea out on Facebook and one on Craigslist for donations to get me there. Three people have donated. A man named Don here in Santa Fe is going to pay my airfare by putting it on his credit card. Then his daughter and granddaughter are going to raise money at their schools. Another man named Page gave me $60 and a friend from Oklahoma City, Elaine, is sending me $50. I am speechless and near tears at their generosity. So, I have my airfare taken care of. I have to get MREs to take with me. So, they are going to be about $150 for a weeks worth of meals and Lord knows I don't like to go without a meal!!! My passport has been about $300 total to get it expedited. My reason for posting here is to ask if anyone would want to contribute even a little bit to the effort. I know times are really hard now and if I don't get any responses, no hard feelings. I just thought I'd ask.
Thanks to all of you for all the emotional support you have given me. I'm still out there riding.
1-27-10
on the advice of those wiser than me I have edited out my address and phone number. So if you want to contribute just PM me and I will get right back to you with the pertinent information.
Kate


Saltybeagle
01-24-10, 06:36 AM
try contacting the university of miami, they just set up a large field hospital associated with Jackson Memorial Hospital and UM School of medicine, we have been dealing with many patients coming from Haiti to local hospitals, they need medical materiels, food and resources according to the news and statuses we are hearing. Also any resources have to bring their own supplies. UM is soliciting MDs, RNs, check volunteer tab.

http://www.med.miami.edu/haiti-relief/

Neil_B
01-24-10, 08:19 AM
At the risk of showing poor judgment and poorer taste, I'm reminded of the risque Cole Porter song, "Katie Went to Haiti." Although the lyrics are pretty sedate by modern standards, I won't post them here.

Be safe on your trip. Is there a Paypal account or other electronic 'mailbox' funds can be sent to?


barturtle
01-24-10, 08:46 AM
I have been reading several articles about people who have been going down who have no experience in relief in third world countries who have been having to get helped themselves, and therefore taking up valuable relief resources. Unless you have experience in this field (relief efforts, not just medical training) i suggest sending money.

turtlewoman
01-24-10, 09:58 AM
I don't have a paypal account or other electronic access. But if you wanted to send me a money order or something I think there's plenty of time.

I am planning on going Feb. 15 which is my Dad's birthday and I will be staying one week.
Thank you to everybody for your support.
To Barturtle- I hear your concern. I've been a nurse for 25 years. I'm going to my family physician to put together a first aid kit for me as is recommended by the CDC. I'm not easily ruffled in a crisis. I have great support here at home. I don't intend to go out and about by myself, thereby putting myself in harms way. Having lived through the experience of the Murrah building bombing (not as a victim but as an observer and volunteer) I think I have at least a limited conception of what devastation is about. I don't speak French, that's true but neither do most of the Israelis, Brazilians, Russians, Chinese, etc who are going to help. Maybe I'll get down there and be a huge burden that somebody has to deal with---I don't think so. But if only people with Third World crisis experience went there wouldn't be enough help. I'll just do what I know which is nursing---and keep my head down.

Saltybeagle
01-24-10, 12:08 PM
You should not have to pay to get there, I think. Passport and travel to a US staging point perhaps.

Rhodabike
01-24-10, 04:11 PM
Could you contact an organization such as Doctors Without Borders and get in with them?
One organization that has been working there for decades is Plan Canada. They've already got people and facilities in place, so they might be well equipped to use your services. Here's their website:
http://plancanada.ca/
(I'm sponsoring a Haitian kid through them, and I sure hope she's okay.)
Check your local airport to see if Westjet (a Canadian airline) stops there. They've been donating flight time to get supplies and people in to Haiti. There may be other airlines doing this as well.

nkfrench
01-26-10, 06:35 PM
I have been reading several articles about people who have been going down who have no experience in relief in third world countries who have been having to get helped themselves, and therefore taking up valuable relief resources. Unless you have experience in this field (relief efforts, not just medical training) i suggest sending money.

I have read this also. It's not just the tragedy of the event; it includes the extremely primitive living conditions that relief workers will endure. Lack of clean water/sanitation, privacy, comfortable quiet place to rest (if you have any downtime at all). People with military field experience are strongly preferred.

I am a big fan of indoor plumbing, clean sheets, internet access, and ice cubes in my diet coke. I'd last a few hours. :)

Missbumble
01-26-10, 06:53 PM
HI Turtlewoman - This is awesome of you! I gave already to Haiti - but decided to give to you as well so you can go where your are called! Also - I think you should deltee your address - etc. I am afraid of the internet etc and have people PM you if they want to donate.

Ok anyone want to match my donation ($50) - Any of my fellow 2010 nominees for Poster of th Year - or any of my favorite triathletes. Let's help Turtle go to Haiti.


Oh and Ride Turtle Ride!

Laserman
01-26-10, 09:16 PM
It is EXTREMELY UNWISE to post your address and personal phone numbers online.
Even in a benign forum such as this. The info is available to EVERYONE IN THE WORLD

turtlewoman
01-27-10, 03:54 AM
Missbumble, you are awesome! Thank you so much. I had to revise my travel plans a little bit because Heart to Heart sends people out on Thursday for some reason--I guess it simplifies logistics. Anyway, I am going the 11th and coming back the 20th. I have my plane ticket and I'm expecting my passport any day--I got it expedited as I think I already said.
I am so excited about this opportunity to help these very deserving people. I know it will be a shock to me--like nkfrench, I'm also a fan of indoor plumbing, clean sheets and all that. But I do have this skill that's needed. I can do anything for a week----as long as I get to eat and I have a nice, ice cold Coca Cola waiting for me when I get home!
As far as posting my address and phone numbers----you are probably right about it not being a good idea. But they're already out there so I guess it's too late. I just wanted the information to be as accessible as possible to anyone who might want to donate. Anyway, I have a VERY MEAN BIG dog in my yard to protect me and I can always hang up on wackos.
Thank you again, Missbumble-you rock, you're awesome, you're the greatest!

bautieri
01-27-10, 05:44 AM
It is EXTREMELY UNWISE to post your address and personal phone numbers online.
Even in a benign forum such as this. The info is available to EVERYONE IN THE WORLD

+ eleventy

Ms. Wolfe,

I strongly urge you to edit your post and remove your personal contact information. Your intentions are awesome, but your posting is foolish. By posting your real name, real address, and real phone numbers you have put yourself at severe risk of identity theft. The internet is not a friendly place. Instead of posting your information for everyone to see, why not advertise to PM you for your contact information. :/

Missbumble
01-27-10, 06:37 AM
Missbumble, you are awesome! Thank you so much. I had to revise my travel plans a little bit because Heart to Heart sends people out on Thursday for some reason--I guess it simplifies logistics. Anyway, I am going the 11th and coming back the 20th. I have my plane ticket and I'm expecting my passport any day--I got it expedited as I think I already said.
I am so excited about this opportunity to help these very deserving people. I know it will be a shock to me--like nkfrench, I'm also a fan of indoor plumbing, clean sheets and all that. But I do have this skill that's needed. I can do anything for a week----as long as I get to eat and I have a nice, ice cold Coca Cola waiting for me when I get home!
As far as posting my address and phone numbers----you are probably right about it not being a good idea. But they're already out there so I guess it's too late. I just wanted the information to be as accessible as possible to anyone who might want to donate. Anyway, I have a VERY MEAN BIG dog in my yard to protect me and I can always hang up on wackos.
Thank you again, Missbumble-you rock, you're awesome, you're the greatest!


Glad to Help Turtle - But as Bauteri said below. EDIT YOUR POST NOW> In order to survive your trip you are going to need to be very open to advice (Even when you don't see the point. Turst Bauteri - I felt compelled once I read his post to ask you9 again.... so trust him.). Go change your post and any other infor you can find on line and make it harder for internet identity thieves to find you, ok? ANd if u have any trouble editing your post or if it ends up being quoted send email to Tom and he will fix.

turtlewoman
01-27-10, 06:57 AM
Thank you Missbumble and Bautieri. You are absolutely right about the taking advice part. I will really get myself in some pickles if I don't listen to people. I have made the edit.

MikeWinVA
01-27-10, 10:38 AM
You really should go with a sponsoring group that can provide some semblance of security. I am a former marine and have friends on the ground there. From what I have been told, it is not a safe place for a lone, unarmed, woman to be. Be careful.

turtlewoman
01-27-10, 10:57 AM
Thank you so much for your concern. But I'm not just flying off down there by myself. I'm going with Heart to Heart Int'l which already has people on the ground in Haiti.

gsurko
01-27-10, 02:04 PM
Is there no place here in the USA were you can be helpful?

turtlewoman
01-27-10, 02:48 PM
gsurko, I hope I am helpful here in the USA in lots of ways. When there's a major calamity somewhere you have to mobilize a little bit extra help. Are you helpful here in the USA, gsurko?

gsurko
01-28-10, 08:33 AM
Yes I am.

Richard_Rides
01-28-10, 09:23 AM
Your heart's in the right place but unless you are prior military, seals, ranger or special forces, I'd steer clear of Haiti. Civil war is imminent and if you're not traveling with your own armed security detail, you will have problems. Dr. Sanjay Gupta makes it look easy on TV, but real life is different than TV. Stay home, you don't want to be in Haiti when the S**t hits the fan.

turtlewoman
01-28-10, 06:25 PM
You know, maybe civil war is imminent, maybe it's not. We don't know. That's the bottom line. I'm not a "bleeding heart liberal". Well, maybe I am but that's a different discussion. I'm not trying to emulate Sanjay Gupta. I'm not trying to be a hero. I'm just an old nurse who wants to do a simple thing. Enough with the negativity. Maybe I'll be hacked to death by a machete wielding fiend. So be it. I've had it with the naysayers. Maybe I'm just too stupid to listen to reason. If you think I'm absolutely doing the wrong thing just understand that I know the risks and keep it to yourself.

Richard_Rides
01-28-10, 08:28 PM
You know, maybe civil war is imminent, maybe it's not. We don't know. That's the bottom line. I'm not a "bleeding heart liberal". Well, maybe I am but that's a different discussion. I'm not trying to emulate Sanjay Gupta. I'm not trying to be a hero. I'm just an old nurse who wants to do a simple thing. Enough with the negativity. Maybe I'll be hacked to death by a machete wielding fiend. So be it. I've had it with the naysayers. Maybe I'm just too stupid to listen to reason. If you think I'm absolutely doing the wrong thing just understand that I know the risks and keep it to yourself.

Suddenly I find you intensely attractive. I love your "in your face" style. PM me and let's get this relationship started. You rock!

turtlewoman
01-29-10, 06:32 AM
I don't appreciate your sarcasm. This is very important to me. I won't be responding to any of your future post.

bobfromwaco
01-29-10, 08:50 AM
Welcome to the wonders of the internet.

Richard_Rides
01-29-10, 09:14 AM
I don't appreciate your sarcasm. This is very important to me. I won't be responding to any of your future post.

LOL. :lol::lol::lol: Just chill out, your not going to Haiti or anywhere else. Don't be so grumpy!

turtlewoman
01-31-10, 03:54 PM
I couldn't stand to let the thread end with negativity. So, I'll just end by saying that I know I am blessed to be able to do this for these deserving people. Thanks to everyone for your encouragement and support.
Kate

Cyril
01-31-10, 08:23 PM
As Ghandi said," Be the change you wish to see in the world."

Good Luck to you, Kate.
And Godspeed.

Cyril

Richard_Rides
01-31-10, 11:45 PM
Does this thread have *anything* to do with cycling? Apparantly this is just a tacky ruse to solicit money from forum members. I'm requesting this plea for donations be moved to Foo and anyone feeling charitable please donate to legitimate, established charities.

Cyril
02-01-10, 06:09 AM
Or, Its an effort from a forum member who has recently gone through a great personal tragedy to turn her grief and anger into something life-affirming and positive.
Please don't tell me how to spend my money.

I write this from my trainer.
I spend 2 hours on it every morning and am now down to 185 lbs.
started at 225 a couple of years ago.
I'm 6'2' tall so i will always be a clyde by volume, if not by weight.

I ride for a local bike shop race team....the long distance division.


there.....cycling content.

Kate....."those that matter don't mind and those that mind don't matter"


Cyril

Neil_B
02-01-10, 06:51 AM
Does this thread have *anything* to do with cycling? Apparantly this is just a tacky ruse to solicit money from forum members. I'm requesting this plea for donations be moved to Foo and anyone feeling charitable please donate to legitimate, established charities.

Where did they move the "report to Moderator" button? This fellow has been trolling the OP for days.

BigPolishJimmy
02-01-10, 10:15 AM
Two of your posts have come across as troll-like:


Suddenly I find you intensely attractive. I love your "in your face" style. PM me and let's get this relationship started. You rock!


LOL. :lol::lol::lol: Just chill out, your not going to Haiti or anywhere else. Don't be so grumpy!

Your other posts on this topic come off as opposing opinion, maybe even unwelcome opposing opinion. I'm fine with that but these really don't sit well with me. I'm in agreement that part of this forum is to offer a supportive environment for others who are here to try to make their life better by cycling, even if that means we go a bit of-topic from time-to-time.

Siu Blue Wind
02-01-10, 10:29 AM
Does this thread have *anything* to do with cycling? Apparantly this is just a tacky ruse to solicit money from forum members. I'm requesting this plea for donations be moved to Foo and anyone feeling charitable please donate to legitimate, established charities.

The OP posted here in hopes that she can get support from her friends here in Clydes/Athenas.

Tacky, in my opinion it is not, for being willing to give her services to those in need in horrific times falls more in the lines of heroism. Rather than chastise her for doing this, it might be best that those who feel they would like to help her do so and those who feel they can't will not do so.

Your request for removal of this thread to Foo has been denied.

Further trolling of this thread will be handled accordingly.

Siu Blue Wind
Forum Admin

Tom Stormcrowe
02-01-10, 12:08 PM
And I concur with Siu, as well, since I originally approved this thread to be posted with her friends here, rather than Charities or Foo.

CbadRider
02-01-10, 01:22 PM
I have read this also. It's not just the tragedy of the event; it includes the extremely primitive living conditions that relief workers will endure. Lack of clean water/sanitation, privacy, comfortable quiet place to rest (if you have any downtime at all). People with military field experience are strongly preferred.

I am a big fan of indoor plumbing, clean sheets, internet access, and ice cubes in my diet coke. I'd last a few hours. :)

My niece who is a trained EMT just spent a week in Port Au Prince helping out. The group she was with set up a clinic in a police station in one of the towns. They are doing such a good job that the chief of police wants to set up clinics in the police stations in other towns.

turtlewoman, I will send you a link to her blog so you can get an idea of the type of medical facilities they have available.

cerewa
02-01-10, 04:14 PM
I was in Haiti, in the area hardest-hit by the earthquake, from January 2 (pre earthquake) until January 14 (two days post-earthquake).

Things are tough in Haiti, but not intolerably so. Many, many Haitians are working really hard to ensure the safety of everyone (of any nationality) in the country - whether they need food, water, tents, or whatever. Absolutely, there are some people who are up to no good, and some who are violent. But so many more are busy taking care of not just friends and family, but the entire community around them as well. My sister, Christa Brelsford, was saved by the work of a lot of ordinary folks in Haiti, because that's what they're like: Christa's Angels (http://christasangels.org)

Tom Stormcrowe
02-01-10, 04:28 PM
And this isn't road. It might serve you well to remember that different communities have different dynamics and customs, and here in C&A, we actualy <GASP>support each other! What a novel concept!
Nonsense. Not a day goes by that someone on the roadbike forum doesn't get told to HTFU.

Little Darwin
02-01-10, 04:40 PM
Nonsense. Not a day goes by that someone on the roadbike forum doesn't get told to HTFU.
One thing that tweaks my berries is questioning mod and admin actions in public. Because then we are forced to deal with them in public. Having someone question our actions privately is not part of the job I like, but it beats the heck out of doing it in a public way.

Let's all take a deep breath, and let this thread raise awareness as was intended.

If you disagree with the thread's presence, then ignore it instead of bumping it to the top. ;)

Tom Stormcrowe
02-01-10, 04:51 PM
Moderators are Community Volunteers (sort of). We recruit them from the membership and they are NOT paid. Now, back to the topic of the thread. If you'd like to discuss staffing any further, I'll be happy to by PM. I'd like to avoid hijacking this thread.


Are mods paid?

turtlewoman
02-01-10, 09:15 PM
Wow! You guys--and gals, are so great. Thank you for all the support you have given me. I promise to get back to biking--I'm just a little pre-occupied right now. Everything is moving like a whirlwind right now. I'm having a bake sale tomorrow. A friend here has donated some t-shirts that say, "I helped send a nurse to Haiti" and we are going to sell them Saturday at the Flea Market. Another friend who is a singer with a band has offered herself and the band to perform at an event Friday if we can just find someplace to have it. Very frustrating. So you see there's alot going on.
Again, thanks for the support.

Siu Blue Wind
02-02-10, 12:23 AM
Wow, turtlewoman!! Seems like you ARE getting support! This is awesome! YAYYYYYyyyy!

Tom Stormcrowe
02-02-10, 04:31 AM
Outstanding, turtlewoman! Keep at it, and you'll make your goal!

Siu Blue Wind
02-02-10, 08:45 AM
Hope to see pics of the bake sale and the T shirts.

Neil_B
02-02-10, 08:49 AM
Where did they move the "report to Moderator" button? This fellow has been trolling the OP for days.

I've done my good deed for the day. Please keep it a secret. I don't want to damage my reputation as a misanthrope. :-)

Mr. Beanz
02-02-10, 10:05 AM
Strike post! I was just enlightened by Siu!:)

turtlewoman
02-09-10, 01:44 PM
Hi all,
The countdown has started. Day after tomorrow and I leave Albuquerque for the Dominican Republic then Haiti. I am so excited, I can't stand myself!!
Just a couple of thoughts--
Mr. Beanz---what did you say? I'm dying of curiosity. PM me.
Historian---you are NOT a curmudgeonly, misanthrope and everybody knows it!!
To everybody else---THANK YOU.
Kate

CarynLea
02-11-10, 11:50 AM
Please keep us posted!

Mr. Beanz
02-11-10, 12:06 PM
Mr. Beanz---what did you say? I'm dying of curiosity. PM me.

I did, just so the others know I didn't ignore the question.;) I was very honest, stated my opinions and what I had posted, she's a nice lady and we are friends!:thumb:

bautieri
02-12-10, 07:36 AM
I didn't get to post in time, but good luck Kate. Have a safe journey.

Missbumble
02-12-10, 04:01 PM
Wow - I get busy at work and miss all the controversy. I am glad to see that the loving spirit of the Clydesdale /Athena thread prevail with loving support for Turtlewoman. Go turtle go.... Have a good trip. Be safe. Be helpful...and come on back and hop on yer bike.

Tom Stormcrowe
02-12-10, 04:55 PM
Bon voyage, est subsistance vous-même sûre. ;) Si vous êtes chrétien, allez avec bénédictions de God.


Hi all,
The countdown has started. Day after tomorrow and I leave Albuquerque for the Dominican Republic then Haiti. I am so excited, I can't stand myself!!
Just a couple of thoughts--
Mr. Beanz---what did you say? I'm dying of curiosity. PM me.
Historian---you are NOT a curmudgeonly, misanthrope and everybody knows it!!
To everybody else---THANK YOU.
Kate