Road Cycling - Italian Steel frames (circa 1000$)

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math2p14
08-14-04, 10:59 AM
Hi all,
I ve just returned from the Olympic road cycling race (bettini won). It was awesome. For sometime now i wanted to get a road bike to complement my FR riding for stamina and fitness.
I am interested into getting a steel italian frame and build it with a centaur gruppo. Can you recommend me some options?
So far i am aware only of the Colnago Classic Steel frame (around 1000$).
Please feel free to recommend similar options.
Yours
Yannis
Fat Hack
08-14-04, 12:53 PM
Cervelo Superprodigy is not Italian, but they're made with Italian tubing, and they're supposed to be quite good, very light, and very affordable.
There's probably a "gazillion" Italian steel frames
OneTinSloth
08-14-04, 04:42 PM
There's probably a "gazillion" Italian steel frames
i would venture to say it might be closer to a "hozillion" Italian steel frames...
pegoretti and gios are two of my favorites at the moment, simply because they're nifty looking, can't beat the pegorettis in the "interesting paint job" category...except for maybe landshark.
orguasch
08-14-04, 05:18 PM
try Pinarello frames, you can go to there website at www.pinarello.com
Cinelli SuperCorsa at GVH for around $895: http://www.gvhbikes.com/ They do have different colors if red ain't your thing: http://www.gvhbikes.com/.
Fat Hack
08-14-04, 11:25 PM
try Pinarello frames, you can go to there website at www.pinarello.com
The Pinarello information is not clear enough. I can never figure out which model is the steel one -- if there is one
OneTinSloth
08-14-04, 11:31 PM
the pinarello opera is steel.
i had the same difficulty with the pinarello website...that and when you click on a link for a bike, the picture shows up below everything else, instead of up at the top, where every other normal manufacturer's website puts it.
Fat Hack
08-14-04, 11:50 PM
I'll run off a few classic brands, all of which are in my favourites :) :
Basso http://www.bassobikes.com/eng/home.php
Battaglin http://www.battaglin.it/index.htm
Bianchi http://www.bianchi.com/
Bottechia http://www.bottecchia.net/default.asp
Carrera http://www.carrera-podium.it/Index2.html
Casati
Cinelli http://www.cinelli.it/eng/index.html
Ciocc http://www.ciocc.it/English%20Ciocc_%20Index.htm
Colnago http://www.colnagonews.com/
Concorde http://www.concorde-bikes.com/Concorde/default.asp
Coppi http://www.wrenchscience.com/WS1/Coppi/Bikes.html http://www.bullteksports.com/catalog/pictures/coppi/Frames.htm
De Bernadi
De Rosa http://www.derosanews.com/
Fondriest http://www.fondriest-usa.com/index.php
Gios http://www.gios.it/
Guerciotti
Moser http://www.ciclimoser.com/ http://www.mosercycles.com/
Olmo http://www.olmo.it/
Pinarello http://www.pinarello.com/main.php?lang=e
Scapin http://www.scapin.com
Tommasini http://www.tommasini.com/eng/prodotti.html
Viner http://www.viner.it/english/index.htm
Wilier http://www.wilier.it/
Zullo http://www.zullo-bike.com/
I'm not sure if they all have a steel model, but you'll have fun searching, and I've also gotta admit that I'm not sure if they are all Italian, but at least they sound Italian. :)
I was a bit cranky at you yesterday for dropping the winner of the road race :D (I was taping it), but now I feel guilty for being cranky :(
OneTinSloth
08-15-04, 12:20 AM
mmm....Casati....
Fat Hack
08-15-04, 12:47 AM
their site has been down for ages. Don't bother -- it don't work http://www.ciclicasati.com/main.html
Did i miss any frames? I'd like to know.
I love the look of some of the Coppi frames; the photos really don't do them justice. I was in a group ride recently, and this guy had a dark blue one with white decals, man I couldn't take my eyes off it. :)
Let's face it, the decals can make or break a bike, so, frame builders beware: choose your font wisely
OneTinSloth
08-15-04, 12:57 AM
i would say marinoni (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/FBeauchemin/Marbikes.htm), but they're canadian too. torelli (http://www.torelli.com/home.html?default.shtml&1), and mondonico (http://www.torelli.com/home.html?http://www.torelli.com/mondonico/mndnico.html&1)....and guerciotti (http://www.torelli.com/home.html?http://www.torelli.com/mondonico/mndnico.html&1) too.
531Aussie
08-15-04, 01:04 AM
It never stops cracking me up; these guys who give their bikes phony Italian names.
There are even "real Aussie" guys here is Oz, who have "blokey" Aussie names, who have given their frames a fancy, bogus "Iti" brand.
Years ago when I first went to these factories, I was expecting to meat short, dark haired men named "Giuseppe", but no, it usually ends up being "Makka" or "Johnno", and they speak like Steve Irwin. :D
I'm glad Thylacine didn't call his bikes "Warini" or somethin'
math2p14
08-15-04, 03:53 AM
Guys you are awesome! thank you a lot for the loads of info. You really saved my day. I ll post pics of my new road bike as soon as i decide!
http://www.torelli.com/home.html?default.shtml&1
their site has been down for ages. Don't bother -- it don't work http://www.ciclicasati.com/main.html
Casati has a new URL:
http://www.ciclicasati.it/
But this site has been under construction for quite some time - at least there is a downloadable catalog.
i would say marinoni (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/FBeauchemin/Marbikes.htm), but they're canadian too.
Marinoni frames are a great value. They have a new website here:
http://www.marinoni.qc.ca/html/eng_index.asp
OneTinSloth
08-15-04, 01:01 PM
there's a marinoni dealer here in berkeley. their frames are indeed very pleasing to the eye, and i'm sure they feel great too.
I've been riding a DeBernardi (Brain) with Campy for 4+ years and I'm so happy with it I can't find an excuse to buy anything newer or lighter. Great deal and service from GVH Bikes as well and would definitely go back to Gary.
phillybill
08-15-04, 06:34 PM
The Basso's are a very nice frame with flawless craftmanship. I have a 2002 Gap that is a very sweet ride.
I'll run off a few classic brands, all of which are in my favourites :) :
Basso http://www.bassobikes.com/eng/home.php
Battaglin http://www.battaglin.it/index.htm
Bianchi http://www.bianchi.com/
Bottechia http://www.bottecchia.net/default.asp
Carrera http://www.carrera-podium.it/Index2.html
Casati
Cinelli http://www.cinelli.it/eng/index.html
Ciocc http://www.ciocc.it/English%20Ciocc_%20Index.htm
Colnago http://www.colnagonews.com/
Concorde http://www.concorde-bikes.com/Concorde/default.asp
Coppi http://www.wrenchscience.com/WS1/Coppi/Bikes.html http://www.bullteksports.com/catalog/pictures/coppi/Frames.htm
De Bernadi
De Rosa http://www.derosanews.com/
Fondriest http://www.fondriest-usa.com/index.php
Gios http://www.gios.it/
Guerciotti
Moser http://www.ciclimoser.com/ http://www.mosercycles.com/
Olmo http://www.olmo.it/
Pinarello http://www.pinarello.com/main.php?lang=e
Scapin http://www.scapin.com
Tommasini http://www.tommasini.com/eng/prodotti.html
Viner http://www.viner.it/english/index.htm
Wilier http://www.wilier.it/
Zullo http://www.zullo-bike.com/
I'm not sure if they all have a steel model, but you'll have fun searching, and I've also gotta admit that I'm not sure if they are all Italian, but at least they sound Italian. :)
I was a bit cranky at you yesterday for dropping the winner of the road race :D (I was taping it), but now I feel guilty for being cranky :(
Yay! Scapin!!! :D
cyclokiller
08-16-04, 08:59 AM
I love my Viner. gvhbikes.com
math2p14
08-16-04, 10:10 AM
Ok as far as i could find out, only colnago is available readily in the UK where i live. Is the "Classic" model worth the cash? or the MasterXlight is soooo much better?
My other options are
Cinelli Supercorsa (dont know price and UK availability)
Cinelli Nuova Supercorsa (again i know neither price or availability).
Please advice.
Yannis
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