"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - Calling all SoCal racers

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Caad 8
01-25-10, 11:14 PM
So as you all know, the race season is upon us. There will be victories and defeats, glory and pain, anyway what's a good first race for a new racer?

Since all races have different profiles, I don't want to enter a race and then someone says 'well that race has some sharp turns which may be hard for your first time' etc...


umd
01-25-10, 11:59 PM
Well what are your strengths? By your user title I am assuming maybe that you think you are a climber? I'd say Boulevard but I guess it's full for cat 5. There is of course Poor College Kids and Mothballs this weekend, those are both good races. You already missed the season opener crit at Dominquez Hills last weekend.

phoshizzo
01-26-10, 12:01 AM
This weekend at Mothballs in Goleta. Its in the shape of a "D" with 2 wide corners, and a long wide finishing straight.


urbanknight
01-26-10, 12:03 AM
+1 to Mothballs. If CBR still does the Long Beach course, that's a safe one too.

umd
01-26-10, 12:08 AM
This weekend at Mothballs in Goleta. Its in the shape of a "D" with 2 wide corners, and a long wide finishing straight.

Hey, you doing the 30+ 3/4?

phoshizzo
01-26-10, 12:20 AM
thinking about it. depends on the weather. I'll either do the 3's or the 30+3/4's

nickelbus
01-26-10, 12:33 AM
I will be at mothballs, probably just the 3/4 30+ but maybe the 3s right before too.

Caad 8
01-26-10, 12:49 AM
Well what are your strengths? By your user title I am assuming maybe that you think you are a climber? I'd say Boulevard but I guess it's full for cat 5. There is of course Poor College Kids and Mothballs this weekend, those are both good races. You already missed the season opener crit at Dominquez Hills last weekend.


I like climbing, but I wouldn't say I'm good at it. (which I just realized at a recent group ride that had a climb.)


This weekend at Mothballs in Goleta. Its in the shape of a "D" with 2 wide corners, and a long wide finishing straight.


+1 to Mothballs. If CBR still does the Long Beach course, that's a safe one too.


I will be at mothballs, probably just the 3/4 30+ but maybe the 3s right before too.

So mothballs seems to be the way to go. I also have team-mates who are doing that race, but they're doing the junior races.

Edit: so much for mothballs, its full. So what would be another good one?

umd
01-26-10, 01:00 AM
Really anything other than the big races like sea otter or San dimas should be fine. Where are you located? There is a crit near San Diego the following weekend that has a good power climb.

Caad 8
01-26-10, 01:03 AM
Really anything other than the big races like sea otter or San dimas should be fine. Where are you located? There is a crit near San Diego the following weekend that has a good power climb.

I'm in Laguna Niguel, so I was thinking the Dana Point GP would be a good one, and I think I'd be ready by then too. I could also practice on the course before the race since I live so close to it.

carpediemracing
01-26-10, 05:18 AM
Really anything other than the big races like sea otter or San dimas should be fine. Where are you located? There is a crit near San Diego the following weekend that has a good power climb.

This must be the Trolley race? Can you define "power climb" in terms of maybe gearing, length, distance from finish? If my hosts would think about driving, I'll think about the Cat 3s.

cdr

umd
01-26-10, 08:22 AM
This must be the Trolley race? Can you define "power climb" in terms of maybe gearing, length, distance from finish? If my hosts would think about driving, I'll think about the Cat 3s.

Yeah, that's Red Trolley.

As far as gearing, looking through my pictures (http://www.photoscene.com/kimandsteve/418/red-trolley-cat-4-pictures) from last year, it seems that most people stayed int the big ring for it. I had a 53 w/11-23.

The bulk of the climb is about 30-35 feet of gain at about 7% with another 10 feet of gain over about 600 feet (~2%) to the finish line.

There is a fast descent with a sweeping corner right before the climb, it's all about good position on that descent, railing the corner and keeping the momentum up the final climb. Whoever makes it to the crest of the climb near the front basically just has to hold it to the line. I'm a horrible sprinter and that race was my best ever crit finish (10th).


Descent
http://www.photoscene.com/kimandsteve/images/5024.jpg

Corner/climb entry
http://www.photoscene.com/kimandsteve/images/5025.jpg

Panorama
http://www.photoscene.com/kimandsteve/images/5018.jpg

Climb
http://www.photoscene.com/kimandsteve/images/5026.jpg

Sprint
http://www.photoscene.com/kimandsteve/images/5074.jpg

Cleave
01-26-10, 09:33 AM
I'm in Laguna Niguel, so I was thinking the Dana Point GP would be a good one, and I think I'd be ready by then too. I could also practice on the course before the race since I live so close to it.

Hi,

You want to do something a lot more low key for your first race than Dana Point. The lower categories were a blood bath last year. Also, you can't train effectively on that course when the roads are open to traffic.

Look at socalcycling.com or scnca.org to see a list of local races. A good place to start would be any of the CBR BAR races or the Ontario races (put on by Pacific Sunset Velo). CBR also has new racer clinics before the races start in the morning. Good luck, ride safely, have fun.

spinwax
01-26-10, 12:07 PM
I'm a horrible sprinter and that race was my best ever crit finish (10th).




You don't need to be a good sprinter to win crits! ;)

Hey, I will be out helping at Callville. If you need anything, let me know.

umd
01-26-10, 12:12 PM
You don't need to be a good sprinter to win crits! ;)

Hey, I will be out helping at Callville. If you need anything, let me know.

I tried a break but it failed.

carpediemracing
01-26-10, 12:19 PM
Yeah, that's Red Trolley.

As far as gearing, looking through my pictures (http://www.photoscene.com/kimandsteve/418/red-trolley-cat-4-pictures) from last year, it seems that most people stayed int the big ring for it. I had a 53 w/11-23.

The bulk of the climb is about 30-35 feet of gain at about 7% with another 10 feet of gain over about 600 feet (~2%) to the finish line.

There is a fast descent with a sweeping corner right before the climb, it's all about good position on that descent, railing the corner and keeping the momentum up the final climb. Whoever makes it to the crest of the climb near the front basically just has to hold it to the line. I'm a horrible sprinter and that race was my best ever crit finish (10th).

...



Okay, my adrenaline got going. I will talk with my hosts :)

thanks
cdr

Caad 8
01-26-10, 04:52 PM
Ok so I picked these:



4/4
Easter Sunday Grand Prix Ontario
Crit

5/16
Mid Season Criterium Race Ontario
Crit

6/19
Ontario Airport Crit Ontario
Crit

7/18
Ontario Grand Prix
Ontario
Crit

tbrown524
01-27-10, 11:54 AM
Which part of SoCal do you live? It might be a good idea to partake in a few training crits. Hughes Park, El Dorado, etc.

Caad 8
01-27-10, 03:35 PM
Which part of SoCal do you live? It might be a good idea to partake in a few training crits. Hughes Park, El Dorado, etc.
Tell me more.....

I live in Dana Point.

kuf
01-27-10, 08:40 PM
+1 to Mothballs. If CBR still does the Long Beach course, that's a safe one too.

Coming out to SB this weekend for the races? We should all go out for dinner if you are.

kuf
01-27-10, 08:43 PM
You don't need to be a good sprinter to win crits! ;)

Hey, I will be out helping at Callville. If you need anything, let me know.

Looking forward to the houseboat this year. That would have been a good set-up last year, but we didn't have enough people for a boat and stayed at a hotel. I could drive a wheel truck again, but I don't think my Mini would hold much. If you have another car for me to drive, I probably could do that again.

nickelbus
01-27-10, 10:58 PM
Sweet, got me on the front in the first picture of trolley. Get stuck behind a boneheaded crash right before the last lap. Sucked!

Crash716
01-27-10, 11:02 PM
i have no strengths...so i race everything. well..except road races with a lot of climbing...that's for sadists.

umd
01-27-10, 11:05 PM
Sweet, got me on the front in the first picture of trolley. Get stuck behind a boneheaded crash right before the last lap. Sucked!

You the PAA/Remax on the blue bike?

Fat Boy
01-27-10, 11:13 PM
+1 to Mothballs. If CBR still does the Long Beach course, that's a safe one too.


If you mean the Dominguez Hills course (as opposed to Hughes Park), then that's pretty much all CBR is doing this year, I believe. Hughes just always turns into a blood bath. I don't know why, just the way it goes.

nickelbus
01-27-10, 11:18 PM
Ya, that's me.

agoodale
01-27-10, 11:23 PM
i have no strengths...so i race everything. well..except road races with a lot of climbing...that's for sadists.

You better hurry up and get well. We need some #s for Red Trolley!

agoodale
01-27-10, 11:26 PM
If you mean the Dominguez Hills course (as opposed to Hughes Park), then that's pretty much all CBR is doing this year, I believe. Hughes just always turns into a blood bath. I don't know why, just the way it goes.

CBR will be in Long Beach in March. And yes...It usually does turn into a blood bath for the 5s, 4s, 4/5s and 3/4s!?!

enjoi07
01-27-10, 11:40 PM
Which part of SoCal do you live? It might be a good idea to partake in a few training crits. Hughes Park, El Dorado, etc.


Tell me more.....

I live in Dana Point.

definitely want to try a crit practice before paying to get dropped in one. i guess a few groups have some going on. i have heard of one on the red/grn trolley course. but the most popular around here seems to be fiesta island...nothing like racing in the sun...and on the sand.

tbrown524
01-28-10, 09:29 AM
CBR will be in Long Beach in March. And yes...It usually does turn into a blood bath for the 5s, 4s, 4/5s and 3/4s!?!

I know I've left some blood there a few times.

urbanknight
01-28-10, 09:34 AM
Coming out to SB this weekend for the races? We should all go out for dinner if you are.
I've thrown in the towel. If I'm going to pay for a solo ride, I might as well pick a charity instead. I will be sure to let you two know the next time we come up to Santa Barbara for any reason. We love little day trips up that way from time to time.

Caad 8
02-05-10, 08:29 PM
So the Ontario easter sunday race sounds good, I think I'll do that one for my season opener.