[cyclingshane73]

My wife showed me this in the paper today...

Toronto Star (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1092521408972&call_pageid=970599119419)

I sure hope everyone comes through. I ride north of that particular intersection every weekend.

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[qmsdc15]

Tragic! Obey the speed limit! Sometimes a car pulls onto a highway because he can not see any cars coming. It can't be any safer if no cars are seen coming. So you pull onto the highway but speeder just out of view comes flying over the hill, no time to react. Drivers never think that cars entering or crossing highway will not have time to make their move if on-coming traffic is going too fast. The exit ramp/intersection is designed to be safe if traffic is going approx. at posted speeds. Highway engineer will not design a blind entry but it becomes a blind entry when cars are speeding!

This seems to be what the cyclist is saying, though the bit about sun in the eyes by the van driver sounds fishy. Wait for the sun to set if necessary. If you can't see, stop driving! Both drivers may be at fault here. If they come too fast for a van to get through, imagine the risk for a cyclist to cross!

[AndrewP]

The van was heading West at 11 a.m., and the car was coming from the North. There can be no way that sunshine in his eyes had anything to do with it.

[HereNT]

"We were riding eastbound on Whitevale and had just stopped at the intersection to wait to cross," said Steve Pasquill, who was among the group of 16 male and female riders.

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The van was struck on the right side, spun around and slammed into the cyclists, said Pasquill, who escaped injury.

They weren't moving at all! Even when we try to be safe, it's not a guarantee. It's one of the reasons I hate stopping when riding (besides not having brakes :)) - if I have speed, I have the ability to swerve, which a lot of times I think is better than coming to a dead stop. Probably just the fixed gear rider in me.

Still, that bites. I hope they all make a speedy recovery and the cops start targeting that intersection more to get the motor vehicles to behave themselves.

"It's a bad intersection," said cyclist Mike Simpson, who was not with the group but regularly rides through the area.

[Diggy18]

That's scary that they were hit standing still, through no fault of their own. Jeeze, what can you do to avoid this kind of thing? Nothing I guess. And add the fact that it was a rural area.

There's been a couple of times when I've been around cars stopped at a light or stop sign, and I've thought how I would be creamed if two of the cars just smacked into each other. And then to read about this kind of thing, ugh . . .

[slvoid]

You know what pisses me off the most and probably should piss all of you off too?

"The sun was in my eyes coming across the intersection..."

No responsibility, no respect.

[dobber]

No responsibility, no respect.

Are you sure about that?

[John E]

This reminds me of Cece Krone, who was killed one morning by Michele Young, a previously-convicted drunk driver, while stopped on the dirt shoulder of a road in the north greater San Francisco Bay area.