Classic & Vintage - Things that make me happy, things that make me sad, and-- I finally have a GIOS!

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banjo_mole
02-03-10, 04:15 PM
So... I've wanted a GIOS Super Record for ever. Today, I have one, among the other little treasures that came in the mail. So I decided, in light of many recent events, to make a list of things that make me happy, and things that make me sad.

Things that make me happy:

1. New banjo. Came in the mail today. Awesome.

2. A GIOS SUPER RECORD! WOO! (And it's parts.)

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/thornslegacy2001/GIOS/DSCF2688.jpg

2b. The Build Plan:

a. Campagnolo Record hubs.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/thornslegacy2001/GIOS/DSCF2690.jpg

b. Campagnolo Nuovo Record Crankset. 165mm. Pantographed chainring.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/thornslegacy2001/GIOS/DSCF2618.jpg

c. Campagnolo Nuovo Record rear derailleur.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/thornslegacy2001/GIOS/DSCF2693.jpg

d. Campagnolo Nuovo Record front derailleur.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/thornslegacy2001/GIOS/DSCF2691.jpg

e. Campagnolo Nuovo Record brake calipers, nutted. (need cleaning.)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/thornslegacy2001/GIOS/DSCF2695.jpg

f. Campagnolo Nuovo Record brake levers, scratched.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/thornslegacy2001/GIOS/DSCF2698.jpg

g. Campagnolo Record shift levers.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/thornslegacy2001/GIOS/DSCF2697.jpg

h. Campagnolo Victory Strada rims. 36h.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/thornslegacy2001/GIOS/DSCF2701.jpg

k. Also in the future for this frame is a Keith Anderson refinish (http://www.keithandersoncycles.com/restorations.html)to original GIOS Blue.

3. Bikeforums, and my friends willingness to help me find the last few bits I need!

I still need:
Pedals.
A freewheel.
A new stem. (See below.)
A saddle. Probably something white.
Gum hoods for the brake levers. Especially those.

Things That Make Me Sad:
1. Most of my friends have moved away for college. I'm somewhat lonely.

2. My girlfriend of 3 years and myself (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/thornslegacy2001/DSCF2166.jpg)broke up a few days ago. I'm not doing too well with that.

3. This stem. Anyone have a short Cinelli to replace it? (I like the ones with the black C on the front. I also like GIOS pantographed ones.)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/thornslegacy2001/GIOS/DSCF2703.jpg

4. I'm poor. If anyone can help me out without asking an arm and a leg (fingers and toes are OK), let me know.

-Nick


banjo_mole
02-03-10, 04:15 PM
Also, parts "i" and "j."

i. Campagnolo SL toe clips, size small.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/thornslegacy2001/GIOS/DSCF2696.jpg
j. Cinelli 64-40 bars and 80mm stem.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/thornslegacy2001/GIOS/DSCF2699.jpg

gomango
02-03-10, 04:49 PM
Multiple items.

1) Sorry about the girlfriend. You two reminded me of my wife and I about 25 years ago. Loved your pics of her and the bikes. Maybe there is some hope for reconciliation!
2) This new bike of yours is gorgeous, and I am not even a Gios guy. Truly a nice find to enjoy in the years to come.
3) No worries over this stem issue. Somebody here will cover that promptly for you, if not our swap is coming up in a couple of weeks. I bet I can nail one for you there at a good price. Pm me an email addy and I can send pics from the swap and act as a proxy if you would like that. :)
4) Say, is that stem a 26.4 or a 26.0? There is one at a local shop missing the bolt that should go dirt cheap. Let me know.


20grit
02-03-10, 05:38 PM
nice bike, shame about the girlfriend.

now let's get to the serious question.... what kind of banjo?

banjo_mole
02-03-10, 05:50 PM
It's an all-mahogany Mastertone. It's not great, not terrible, but it plays well.

http://banjohut.com/_753_edited-1.JPG

Chombi
02-03-10, 06:05 PM
3. This stem. Anyone have a short Cinelli to replace it? (I like the ones with the black C on the front. I also like GIOS pantographed ones.)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/thornslegacy2001/GIOS/DSCF2703.jpg

4. I'm poor. If anyone can help me out without asking an arm and a leg (fingers and toes are OK), let me know.

-Nick

What is it with stems lately??? weird thing is, it's the more special/hard to find ones ones that seem to be cracking!

Chombi

mparker326
02-03-10, 06:28 PM
If you are poor, how did you just get an expensive bike & components + a new banjo?

noglider
02-03-10, 06:35 PM
He's poor because he spent his money on those things. ;)

20grit
02-03-10, 06:40 PM
to loosely (i'd get in trouble for a direct quote) quote Slingblade... now, 'you need some payin gigs.'

Did i mention i love those chainrings?

91MF
02-03-10, 06:52 PM
first off, sorry about the relationship deal. she was cute and im sure real nice, but there are other fish or something about grass is greener something... she'll be back. or not. either way, this is life.

second, dont repaint that bike, and dont find nos parts to replace the scratched and abused bits. build it up as is and ride the crap out of it. i hate seeing an elegant weapon such as that never taken out of its sheath - metaphor or something but you get my drift. 'battle damage' - chipped paint, scuffed pedal dust caps and a worn saddle and bartape - give a bike character. if the wheels are true, the brakes work effectively, and it shifts crisply so you can push the bike to the limits of its ability, this is what makes a beautiful bike perfect. we all get old, but how many of us live? or something?

Amani576
02-03-10, 07:11 PM
Sorry to hear about your GF Nick. I hope you're okay. I can't even imagine how I'd be if I broke up with mine (not to rub it in or anything).
Awesome to hear about the bike. And those are gorgeous components. Can't wait to see pictures of it together.
Nice banjo, too.
-Gene-

Tigerprawn
02-03-10, 07:16 PM
The best thing about having a bike is that you can ride into the sunset (momentarily) and forget all your troubles and worries. I know I've done that on more than one occasion.

Panthers007
02-03-10, 07:23 PM
I have a banjo that looks just like that Mastertone. Ah pluck it!

Nice machine and parts! Bet that cost some serious coin. Enjoy!

cudak888
02-03-10, 07:25 PM
Nick - what length stem is that? I'm nearly 100% sure I can get you an old-logo 1A replacement. If I can, would you take that in place of the seatpost (regardless, Ken may drop by next week)?

-Kurt

YoKev
02-03-10, 07:57 PM
It sounds like you need a good bike ride...or ten. Happy pedaling :)

Dyermaker
02-03-10, 08:05 PM
We must be twins.

I just got a Gios.

My Gf dumped me.

Im poor.

Welcome to the club, want to be friends?

Those chainrings are really nice, also.

jan nikolajsen
02-03-10, 10:31 PM
More pics of the Gios, past the headtube! Good job on the parts. This one won't bail on you...

One more thing: read 91MF's post again. Good advice.

mkeller234
02-03-10, 10:44 PM
Does this mean she took the pug with her....

pastorbobnlnh
02-04-10, 04:09 AM
I still need:
Pedals.
A freewheel.

Gum hoods for the brake levers.

I have all three. The first two did not cost me "an arm and a leg nor even some fingers and toes." The hoods almost took an arm.

What are your specifics for these parts? Would Campy G.S. pedals be acceptable? What range freewheel are you hoping for? I would trade something reasonable for both of these.

Bo ho about your GF. Did she keep the Peugeot mixte? She better remind any future BF who restored it for her!

sykerocker
02-04-10, 06:27 AM
My girlfriend of 3 years and myself broke up a few days ago. I'm not doing too well with that.

Take comfort in the knowledge that fine bicycles will get you through times of no women much better than women will get you through times of no bicycles. Actually, women often get in the way of fine bicycles.

Business810
02-04-10, 07:19 AM
Sorry to hear the bad news, Nick! On the bright side, that Gios looks to be a beauty. I love that panto'd chainring.

I don't have any of the parts you need at the moment, but I'll be in touch if I come across any of them.

Oh, and Jan is right: 91MF has some very good advice.

David Newton
02-04-10, 08:00 AM
Bikes and Banjos. Time to move on to the letter C. Your girlfriend was pretty, sorry about that, but the story isn't over you know.

135956

cudak888
02-04-10, 08:16 AM
Does this mean she took the pug with her....

Don't worry. It's French.

-Kurt

P.S.: Nick, when are we going to see video of you doing some ol' Flatt & Scruggs?

Monkey Face
02-04-10, 08:24 AM
Bikes and Banjos. Time to move on to the letter C. Your girlfriend was pretty, sorry about that, but the story isn't over you know.

135956

I have the letter 'C'... a Wenonah Prospector Canoe - the perfect match for a young man and his banjo (and it's a two seater - for when you have female company again!)

PS. "No point going through life with the sole aim of arriving safely at death." Dunno why I added that, but it was meant as a bit of encouragement if you're feeling a bit glum.

banjo_mole
02-04-10, 09:53 AM
If you are poor, how did you just get an expensive bike & components + a new banjo?

Haha, great question! I traded away my fiddle for another banjo- I've dedicated myself to a relationship with my banjo, not anything else, now.

The componets and frame are the result of two years' worth of luck, penny pinching, saving, and more luck, a bit of stress, trying to avoid (and failing to avoid) a lawsuit, and much more. Two years, mparker, for this bicycle.


first off, sorry about the relationship deal. she was cute and im sure real nice, but there are other fish or something about grass is greener something... she'll be back. or not. either way, this is life.

second, dont repaint that bike, and dont find nos parts to replace the scratched and abused bits. build it up as is and ride the crap out of it. i hate seeing an elegant weapon such as that never taken out of its sheath - metaphor or something but you get my drift. 'battle damage' - chipped paint, scuffed pedal dust caps and a worn saddle and bartape - give a bike character. if the wheels are true, the brakes work effectively, and it shifts crisply so you can push the bike to the limits of its ability, this is what makes a beautiful bike perfect. we all get old, but how many of us live? or something?

Several people have cited this as good advice. But... A GIOS Super Record should be GIOS blue. Someone else repainted it this Mazda silver color at some point. And a silver bike with silver componets just lacks pzazz. I enjoy a bike with a good patina as much as the next fella, but the silver just looks... wrong. And boring. I'll post a picture of the frameset later.


I have a banjo that looks just like that Mastertone. Ah pluck it!


This is probably because a firm somewhere in the Far East makes these banjos and sells them to a few (not lots, but more than one) company here with different names on them. So we probably have the same banjo with a different headstock name.


Nick - what length stem is that? I'm nearly 100% sure I can get you an old-logo 1A replacement. If I can, would you take that in place of the seatpost (regardless, Ken may drop by next week)?

Hmm... A tough question. PM to be sent.


We must be twins. I just got a Gios. My Gf dumped me. Im poor. Welcome to the club, want to be friends? Those chainrings are really nice, also.

Thank you! And yes, we can be friends. Twins? I don't know. My siblings already hate me. :)


Does this mean she took the pug with her....

Don't worry. It's French.

-Kurt

P.S.: Nick, when are we going to see video of you doing some ol' Flatt & Scruggs?

I like Scruggs. But... I'm on a pete seeger binge right now. I don't know when, but it's not an if. It's a when. Y'all will get to hear some of my music sooner or later, I promise.

As for the Pug... She does get to keep it. And she still won't ride it. She's satisfied with driving everywhere, and finding excuses not to ride. Anywhere. Ever. Her loss. She'll never know the joy of riding a bicycle as transportation... Because it's FUN! A pity. But not my problem now. And this means, in 30 years, that Pug will show up in it's cleaned up condition hanging in a garage again, and then it'll be really cool. It'll have been found unridden, twice! A double vintage!


I have all three. The first two did not cost me "an arm and a leg nor even some fingers and toes." The hoods almost took an arm.

What are your specifics for these parts? Would Campy G.S. pedals be acceptable? What range freewheel are you hoping for? I would trade something reasonable for both of these.

Bo ho about your GF. Did she keep the Peugeot mixte? She better remind any future BF who restored it for her!

Pm to be sent.


I have the letter 'C'... a Wenonah Prospector Canoe - the perfect match for a young man and his banjo (and it's a two seater - for when you have female company again!)
PS. "No point going through life with the sole aim of arriving safely at death." Dunno why I added that, but it was meant as a bit of encouragement if you're feeling a bit glum.

Ah! Canoes! A thing I've wanted to be interested in, but haven't been, yet! I'm big on bicycle touring, and backpacking, -just made my first penny stove- and canoeing seems to be, in many ways, a dog of the same breed. The more I think about it, canoeing in the summer on the Canadian lakes sounds like another awesome thing to do.

As for that quote, I've never heard it, but I like it, and I feel like it's an idea i've lived my life by so far, as people around me become more and more content with safety and careers, I'm leaning farther and farther out the window, into adventure.

markk900
02-04-10, 10:13 AM
If'n yer coming to Canada to paddle, better be in a Chestnut or Peterborough canoe....sorry about the relationship stuff, but at least you can console yourself with a bike project for a while.

Mark

banjo_mole
02-04-10, 10:23 AM
Well, then I suppose I'll come to canada in a Chestnut! I like the sound of that brand's name. Hahaha... I would like a wood canoe, not some dummo CF thing. Do they still make those? Or is there a CanoeForums C&V?

:)

Anyway. Frameset pictures!

This is my favorite shot to take of bicycles and framesets. I think it's a good way to photograph a bike.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/thornslegacy2001/GIOS/DSCF2711.jpg

A normal shot.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/thornslegacy2001/GIOS/DSCF2705.jpg

Look at those sexy, sexy, lovely filed lugs!
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/thornslegacy2001/GIOS/DSCF2710.jpg

And the seat cluster. I don't know why it's important. But people always ask to see the seat cluster. So here it is. If I photographed it wrong, tell me.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/thornslegacy2001/GIOS/DSCF2709.jpg

And, of course, this is a respray. An original looks like this, for those who don't know: (yeah, right)
http://www.classicbikeshop.eu/afbeeldingen%20Classic%20Bike%20website/gios-new.jpg

KonAaron Snake
02-04-10, 10:39 AM
Things that make me happy -

Trued wheels
Sleeping cats
Days off
A perfectly served beer without line contamination
Good deals
My fiancee's turkey chili
toed in brakes
The Kinks

Things that make me sad -

Personal evaluations at work when there's a wage freeze and no benefit from them
Eagles losses
Elton John
Flat tires
Cycling Shoes falling apart
Drivers on cell phones

Walfredo
02-04-10, 10:45 AM
Hey banjo. I have two unused cinelli stems. One of them might work for you. Don't know that exact lengths at this time as I'm at work. I'll let one go at a very reasonable price considering your plight. PM me if interested.

20grit
02-04-10, 11:02 AM
Banjo, you're gonna have to find a different banjo role model. Seeger plays an extended scale banjo. that or start stretching that neck (i've heard that can be done with steam and two dump trucks with chains).

I live out in the middle of old time music land... brother plays banjo, i play everything else. i guess if nick posts a video of himself playing, i should as well. I'd thing david should too.

stausty
02-04-10, 11:15 AM
Sometimes life sucks (re:girl) but I hope that this bike and everything else outweigh the bad with a big ol' pile of good.

Am I the only one that thinks those Columbus fork blades on such a small and sleek frame are reminiscent of cankles on an otherwise attractive member of the opposite sex? They're just so out-of-place chunky.

banjo_mole
02-04-10, 11:21 AM
Hahaha, I still love Pete Seeger! I like playing a short-scale A banjo... So for me, a long-necked banjo is just a "normal" one, in G! (Although I've toyed with the idea of playing a longneck... But ouch... my arm!)

Stausty, I'm doing my best to stay busy and envelop in good, to stay cheery. (Hence my recent Pete Seeger binge. It's very positive music.) It's working. I'm happy, or at least content. I have peace in my heart, and I don't get worked up about the little things. It's nice.

Hahaha, cankles? I didn't really think the fork blades were that thick... But I could be wrong. Now I have to browse online pictures of forks to see if it is. :D

-Nick

Monkey Face
02-04-10, 11:25 AM
If'n yer coming to Canada to paddle, better be in a Chestnut or Peterborough canoe....

The Chestnut's a heavy old boat, but anything's better than those tin bath-tub things they hire out in Algonquin. Sorry... my head's gone from bikes to banjos to canoes... good thread OP (in spite of the girlfriend trauma).

stausty
02-04-10, 11:35 AM
Hahaha, cankles? I didn't really think the fork blades were that thick... But I could be wrong. Now I have to browse online pictures of forks to see if it is. :D

-Nick

It's not the diameter, it's the lack of taper. Reynolds forks have a sexy taper down to almost a point at the dropouts. These, not so much.

corkscrew
02-04-10, 11:46 AM
Sorry about the lady, but if it helps I'd give up any g/f* I've ever had for shiny parts like those! :)

*Meaning there is a reason they are all ex'es in the first place.

Dr.Deltron
02-04-10, 01:21 PM
..... Also in the future for this frame is a Keith Anderson refinish (http://www.keithandersoncycles.com/restorations.html)to original GIOS Blue.


4. I'm poor. -Nick

:lol:

Poor Nick....:(

Keith Anderson = $$$!!! (http://www.keithandersoncycles.com/prices.html)

About 9 yards plus shipping.(guesstimate to restore, your quote may vary)

I'm poor too and .... I'm looking for a 348GTS. Anybody help a poor bloke out???

Will trade Italian race bike for it! :innocent:


...sorry 'bout the girl, but she can see where you are headed.;)

mkeller234
02-04-10, 03:40 PM
And the seat cluster. I don't know why it's important. But people always ask to see the seat cluster. So here it is. If I photographed it wrong, tell me.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/thornslegacy2001/GIOS/DSCF2709.jpg

I think the seat clusters are interesting because there are so many styles. A lot of frame builders used the seat cluster as an opportunity for a signature. It seems like an area of the frame that takes a little more attention from the builder to look nice too.

bikerosity57
02-04-10, 04:14 PM
I had a guy weld a cracked stem just like yours, and it still works to this day. He also welded a Stronglight crank on my brothers PX-10, and that too is still fine to this day (20 years later)