Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - American Classic.

anyone have anything to say about the brand? i'm looking at the hubs, and they're incredibly light.

the lock ring and axle caps are crap.

but, you can build a light wheelset, even with the 32's.

I think they're for jock, support the troops, Oakley blade wearing track racers.

haahaha

I think they're for jock, support the troops, Oakley blade wearing track racers.

I think you meant Phil Wood, White Industries or Zipp.

i sow one instance of a hub flange failure on a radial laced road wheelset. despite the post above, i would be more inclined to look at a white industries hub.

despite the post above, i would be more inclined to look at a white industries hub.

which post?

which post?

it sounded as if you were making a sarcastic comment about phil, white, and zipp equipment (due to price)

negative.

good man.

and yes, i do have a white ind hub and an oakley watch and glasses

I think you meant Phil Wood, White Industries or Zipp.

Those too but the name American Classic denotes all sorts of terrible things.
I wouldnt run them if I got some free.

Would you run a Communist Classic? Cuz you obviously are one.

Would you run a Communist Classic? Cuz you obviously are one.

I'm a Communist Classic?
Cool :)

the name American Classic denotes all sorts of terrible things.


maybe for you.

I'm sorry, what exactly is funny, or as you seem to imply--not cool--about supporting the troops?

I guess since I'm riding a fixed gear in a combat zone whilst killing babies and voting for Bush and McCain that I'm automatically not cool enough to be around here.

I'm sorry, what exactly is funny, or as you seem to imply--not cool--about supporting the troops?

I guess since I'm riding a fixed gear in a combat zone whilst killing babies and voting for Bush and McCain that I'm automatically not cool enough to be around here.

Had to break out the sock puppet huh?
Well, I didnt say anything is not cool about supporting the troops but while we're on the topic....**** the troops and the people who support them.

OP - Run! Get away from this forum as fast as you can!

Today I saw a bike with a rear zipp disc wheel secured to a rack on a bus.
Either he was going to a race at the track, or he's a dirty ******** ******* who doesn't deserve the zipp.

Support the troops when they shoot their commanding officers.

Why don't we have ribbons for people in every other dangerous job? I support the underwater welders, personally.

To keep this on topic: American Classic hubs are expensive.

or he's a dirty ******** ******* who doesn't deserve the zipp.

being deserving, has nothing to do with it.


To keep this on topic: American Classic hubs are expensive.

they are really somewhere in the middle, expense wise.

Expensive=

Zipp,Royce,Phil,Profile,Level,HED,Goldtec,Chub,Campagnolo.

I'm guessing you had a bad experience with a soldier from Ft. Campbell. I'm not in the mood to argue with you. One day, when you're a contributing adult in this society you'll realize how much of an idiot you are being right now.

I think they're for jock, support the troops, Oakley blade wearing track racers.


Those too but the name American Classic denotes all sorts of terrible things.
I wouldnt run them if I got some free.


I'm a Communist Classic?
Cool :)


Had to break out the sock puppet huh?
Well, I didnt say anything is not cool about supporting the troops but while we're on the topic....**** the troops and the people who support them.

Dhare, were you beat up a lot by jocks in high school? If the word "America" bothers you so much that it causes emotional fits, then I pity you for living where you do. And I pity your students, if they have to listen to this stuff in your classes. There are much more effective ways of voicing your concerns about America and Americans. I would probably agree with you on a lot of stuff, but I have less of an emotional problem about it, clearly.

Moving on....you are correct, the name American Classic is stupid, but it has nothing to do with troops or other American evils. If AC were truly an American classic (like Ford or Schwinn) then the name wouldn't be American Classic. There are a lot of dumb names, like Kenda Qwick, Dura Ace, Nikon Coolpix, and iPod. But thats not a good reason not to buy them.

That said, AC stuff is silly light, and I've heard lots about durability issues, not just with track hubs. Personally, if my goal were light weight, I would just run a Novatec hub in the rear (which is also light with its hollow axle) and use a light Novatec or Formula road hub built specifically for radial lacing with bolt-on skewer up front.

Dhare, were you beat up a lot by jocks in high school? If the word "America" bothers you so much that it causes emotional fits, then I pity you for living where you do.
However, you are correct, the name American Classic is indeed stupid, but it has nothing to do with troops or other American evils. If AC were truly an American classic (like Ford or Schwinn) then the name wouldn't be American Classic.

Am I to infer from this that you think American troops are evil? I hope not, as that would be a gross generalization and inaccurate representation of American society. I happen to be a Vietnam vet, and although I feel that this was a very bad war that should not have been fought, I do not see why the draftee participants should be villified. When I returned from 'Nam I had insults hurled at me by self-righteous activists and called names like "baby killer", even though I had never killed any babies and probably never even killed any legitimate adult enemy. Right now American troops and military resources are assisting in the Haitian quake disaster relief as well as in other areas around the world. I'd hardly characterize that as evil.

Dude, you are reading waaaaaaaay too far into what I was saying. You also responded before I got my edits in. Troops aren't evil obviously, and I didn't intend to say that. That doesn't mean that one should support their actions. All I was trying to do was point out that a reasonable mature adult (unlike Dhare, apparently) should be able to emotionally differentiate their political beliefs, however radical, from something as silly as a brand-name word association. We are talking about hubs, remember.




Am I to infer from this that you think American troops are evil? I hope not, as that would be a gross generalization and inaccurate representation of American society. I happen to be a Vietnam vet, and although I feel that this was a very bad war that should not have been fought, I do not see why the draftee participants should be villified. When I returned from 'Nam I had insults hurled at me by self-righteous activists and called names like "baby killer", even though I had never killed any babies and probably never even killed any legitimate adult enemy. Right now American troops and military resources are assisting in the Haitian quake disaster relief as well as in other areas around the world. I'd hardly characterize that as evil.

i think i'm gonna get it. its less than 200g, which is absurd, but i'm not going to be doing anything too radical. it's american-made (i'm assuming this), and i support paying a little extra for american labor. plus i already have a 24-hole rxl rim lying around.

as a side-note, i don't think this is an appropriate place to get political. we all know America is the greatest country and should turn communist and take over the world.

Support the Hubs!
They're all heros!

Support the Hubs!
They're all heros!

I support anyone who can differentiate between they're/there/their. You have my vote.
deathare for president

it's american-made (i'm assuming this)

not sure that it's US made.


Bolt-on Novatec's are a good buy. imo. about a $100 a set shipped.

http://www.novatec.com.tw/novatec/english/images/upload/pro/1237167146/big_file1.jpg

http://www.novatec.com.tw/novatec/english/p_racing.php?c1=2&c2=7

not sure that it's US made.

yeah.. you're right, i'm not sure either. under "contact" on their website they have both a US and Taiwan office. i may have assumed incorrectly. my personal belief that is if your company name contains "american," it should be an american product and anything different is unpatriotic. i'll skip the novatec's, but thanks for the mention. i might get the american classic's just because they're exactly what i need. else i'd get a phil wood.

I'm guessing you had a bad experience with a soldier from Ft. Campbell. I'm not in the mood to argue with you. One day, when you're a contributing adult in this society you'll realize how much of an idiot you are being right now.

Contributing to a society is a value put upon you by the very members of the society that stand to benefit. We are all brainwashed to believe that it is somehow of an objective and absolute value to contribute to those around us when in fact we only gain by helping those that help us.

You need an avatar. I suggest this...http://www.benfrank.net/nuke/inaug_protest/sat-lavey-hand.jpg

Add a nice head of hair - maybe a pompadour - and I am in.

anyone have anything to say about the brand? i'm looking at the hubs, and they're incredibly light.

I have a setup of AC 420 track wheels, they are crazy light, climbing hills on a fixed gear was never so easy :) If you do a bit a research on the company you will find they build quality wheelsets. The track nuts are good too, they are hex key style not 15mm like usual, i personally like them.

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Oh, Anton LaVey.
I used to live a few doors away from him in San Francisco. No ****.
He lived in the Richmond district.
I was there too when they tore the house down in 02' or 03'. Cant remember.

He didnt fit into the neighborhood, to say the least. :)

OP-

FYI, it appears the AC track hubs are no longer being made, most retailers are sold out of the old stock.

These are the closest matches I can find to the AC hubs (and they have more build options too):

http://www.mackhubs.com/

still out there...

http://www.google.com/products?q=am+classic+track+hub&aq=f

Hit it Hard

or don't hit it at all,
says Soil Sampler

Why don't we have ribbons for people in every other dangerous job? I support the underwater welders, personally.

To keep this on topic: American Classic hubs are expensive.

I live just north of Sarasota FL. I agree I could not do the jobs of my buddies.

Hit it Hard

or don't hit it at all,
says Soil Sampler

erichsia, are you psychic?

OP-

FYI, it appears the AC track hubs are no longer being made, most retailers are sold out of the old stock.

These are the closest matches I can find to the AC hubs (and they have more build options too):

http://www.mackhubs.com/

I have a low flange Mack. 145 grammes without bolts, washers, lockring.