Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Globe Roll 1?

Anyone happen to own one of these bikes? If so is the frame quality and worth to build on? I heard the 1 comes with ok parts for the price but most likely change the headset, seat, handlebars, pedals and wheels

Oh also, anyone that owns one, does it maneuver as well as lets say a fuji track pro, or Vigorelli or pista concept, or atleast keep up with them, and almost as light?

Of course saddles andpedals are pretty personal but what are your perceived shortcomings of the stock headset or wheels?

Dont like the angle too much and i'm a fan of bullhorns. I already own some aerospokes

Well quality is there obviously with the frame... they're made by specialized.....

If I cant hunt down a good used pista concept frame or a fuji track pro/comp frame I might go for the roll, pretty good price

plz don't buy this P.O.S.

plz don't buy this P.O.S.

the frames bad?

Well quality is there obviously with the frame... they're made by specialized.....

Yes, it's a Specialized Bicycle Components sub-brand, and you can buy them from any Specialized dealer. Like most name brand stuff like Trek and Cannondale, Specialized is always decent quality, warrantied and safe, but also way overpriced.

Well isn't the roll 1 like $650 for the complete? that doesn't seem so bad seeing how a pista concept frame alone is $450-600. But again my question was whats the difference with the two frames for those that owned any or know anyone that does, weight, feel, sharper turns ect

Well isn't the roll 1 like $650 for the complete? that doesn't seem so bad seeing how a pista concept frame alone is $450-600. But again my question was whats the difference with the two frames for those that owned any or know anyone that does, weight, feel, sharper turns ect

Apples and oranges. The Roll is more like a Kilo TT than a Pista Concept. I have a 2006 Pista Concept complete track bike. It is aluminum with carbon fork, very light, very stiff, and has tight track geometry. The Roll is CroMo frame and fork, heavy, probably not very stiff, and has relaxed urban street geometry. So it will handle totally differently. It also has a low BB, which means watch out for pedal strike if you run it fixed and it comes with long crank arms. You could probably get something very similar for $200 less like a Kilo TT. If you really like the style and have the money, then go for it, but don't expect to get your money back if you decide you don't and try to flip it.

Geometry >>>> http://www.globebikes.com/us/en/globe/GlobeBike.jsp?pid=10ROLL1#/geometry/

Thanks for the info. I have some parts, like aerospokes kinda heavy but lasted longer than my last frame(well guess it was just old) would the pista concept be good for urban street riding, more agressive turns and speed than a kilo tt/roll? I do some track but mostly urban riding(no tricks or jumps or anything like that) just want fast agressive, the pista wont have problems with some street bumps or anything seeing how its aluminum frame?


Apples and oranges. The Roll is more like a Kilo TT than a Pista Concept. I have a 2006 Pista Concept complete track bike. It is aluminum with carbon fork, very light, very stiff, and has tight track geometry. The Roll is CroMo frame and fork, heavy, probably not very stiff, and has relaxed urban street geometry. So it will handle totally differently. It also has a low BB, which means watch out for pedal strike if you run it fixed and it comes with long crank arms. You could probably get something very similar for $200 less like a Kilo TT. If you really like the style and have the money, then go for it, but don't expect to get your money back if you decide you don't and try to flip it.

Geometry >>>> http://www.globebikes.com/us/en/globe/GlobeBike.jsp?pid=10ROLL1#/geometry/

Thanks for the info. I have some parts, like aerospokes kinda heavy but lasted longer than my last frame(well guess it was just old) would the pista concept be good for urban street riding, more agressive turns and speed than a kilo tt/roll? I do some track but mostly urban riding(no tricks or jumps or anything like that) just want fast agressive, the pista wont have problems with some street bumps or anything seeing how its aluminum frame?

Well, I use my Concept no brakes and 99% on the track. When I ride road its smooth pavement, no potholes, curb jumps etc. I don't think rough pavement is a problem, but if you hit something the frame could be damaged. The tubing is very thin, and dents easily, and you've got a carbon fork with an aluminum steerer. Compared to a CroMo frame it's pretty delicate. Yes, I'd expect it to be a lot more lively and quick steering than a Roll or Kilo TT, and the higher BB will help avoid pedal strike.

I personally like the Roll. I have test ridden one and it felt good for an urban commuter. I like th integrated bar and stem. It was a cool bike all in all. I would chance a few parts just out of personal preference but all in all, it is a nice bike.

Now that I take a second look, the Globe Roll frame (not fork) looks a lot like the Langster Steel...what do you guys think?

Yeah ive been riding something similar to a Kilo TT shaped frame, but wanted something lighter because im getting more serious with track riding but still want to play around in the streets. do they make lighter weight shaped frames than the kilo tt? i see alot of companys making those frames, but not sure whats better than what

Yeah ive been riding something similar to a Kilo TT shaped frame, but wanted something lighter because im getting more serious with track riding but still want to play around in the streets. do they make lighter weight shaped frames than the kilo tt? i see alot of companys making those frames, but not sure whats better than what

If you really want to go light, stiff, track geometry without breaking the bank then you pretty much have to go with aluminum. I don't how much it weighs, but the Moto Team frame is $350 from BD with an aluminum frame and carbon fork. So you don't have to spend a bunch for a Concept or some other big name frame to get something that will do the job. I mean it seems everyone wants a Concept and since Bianchi doesn't make them anymore, the prices are getting ridiculous.

yeah was looking at that too, but never really heard of it, seems similar to the fuji track frames



Hmm for a kilo tt frame would 53cm fit me? 6"0 145lbs, My girlfriend says she needs a new bike and is the same hight as me, so ill use hers sometimes too, and didnt know a complete kilo tt was that cheap so I can get that and a aluminum frame for track to finish my build

yeah was looking at that too, but never really heard of it, seems similar to the fuji track frames

Not similar, but same. The Moto Team frame is a Fuji Comp. Just less $$$.

Not similar, but same. The Moto Team frame is a Fuji Comp. Just less $$$.

Oh awesome, and about the kilo tt sizes, you know?

Oh awesome, and about the kilo tt sizes, you know?

I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, but there's a bunch of info here >>>> http://bikesdirect.com/products/mercier/kilott.htm

How does someone go from wanting a Pista Concept to a Rolll 1 in a matter of two days?

How does someone go from wanting a Pista Concept to a Rolll 1 in a matter of two days?
someone told him that 'steel is reel'?

How does someone go from wanting a Pista Concept to a Rolll 1 in a matter of two days?

When finding a pista concept was next to impossible in canada. also I didnt say I necessarily wanted a roll, just asking about their frames and value for the price.

someone told him that 'steel is reel'?
Someone did say cromo was better for the streets, but i go track also.

What's "real" has nothing to do with what's "better". Or does it?

I'm not following.

if you ride track, you shouldn't buy this bike. You shouldn't buy it if you ride street either, for that matter.

if you ride track, you shouldn't buy this bike. You shouldn't buy it if you ride street either, for that matter.
So a kilo tt is even better than a roll 1 in terms of quality you're saying?

Most likely yes.

Is the kilo a good frame to build on? for such a low price compared to frames that have the same shape and weight that costs around $1500

I'm not following.

you want a pista concept because it's fast and aggressive, yet you want to put on heavy ass aerospokes. i'd like to hear what tires you're running on your super fast responsive track bike.

a pista concept with aerospokes, you're definitely following.

you want a pista concept because it's fast and aggressive, yet you want to put on heavy ass aerospokes. i'd like to hear what tires you're running on your super fast responsive track bike.

a pista concept with aerospokes, you're definitely following.

I normally use aero in the front and h+son in the rear and i dont see its that huge a difference, and its better in the rough streets here, they are quite strong compaired to my last couple rims and spoke.
i run vittoria rubino tires

yes, you could buy the kilo, put some real pedals on it and ride it at the track completely stock. At least it has track geometry and drop bars. You can't (or don't want to) ride track w/ flat bars. Nor do you want to do it w/ a low BB.

There are a lot of good bikes out there for relatively cheap. Check out IRO as well.

I normally use aero in the front and h+son in the rear and i dont see its that huge a difference, and its better in the rough streets here, they are quite strong compaired to my last couple rims and spoke.
i run vittoria rubino tires

alright i'll let it slide. It came off at first as running two aerspokes coz messengerz r cool. I still think that wheels and tires contribute most to speed and what not, but from what i get you f'd your last frame so that's why you're changing that now.

as has been said, the pista concept and the globe roll are completely different, only similar in their fork ends. It's a bit hard to take your initial question seriously because it's like someone saying "I like the tartness and juice of a citrus fruit so i'm thinking of eating an orange, but i've heard an apple a day keeps the doctor away. which should i get?"


now, I've never had experience with a pista concept so i can't really comment on its ride, but it seems like they have weak seatpost collars. most of the ones for sale say it's cracked or has been welded. for alu that motobecane ftp on bikesdirect isn't bad. if you're comfortable with doing your own labor for assembly (pulling out bb to grease threads, checking everything is tight, i would say truing wheels but you got that covered) it's a good deal. If you go to a bike shop for maintenance though it'll cost you more.

I like the coltello too. good aluminum, geo on the more aggressive side with a low offset fork. sure it's not a real masi in the purist sense of the word, but it's a nice bike. you can find them used in the ~550 range it seems.

the jamis sonik is legit too.

alright i'll let it slide. It came off at first as running two aerspokes coz messengerz r cool. I still think that wheels and tires contribute most to speed and what not, but from what i get you f'd your last frame so that's why you're changing that now.

as has been said, the pista concept and the globe roll are completely different, only similar in their fork ends. It's a bit hard to take your initial question seriously because it's like someone saying "I like the tartness and juice of a citrus fruit so i'm thinking of eating an orange, but i've heard an apple a day keeps the doctor away. which should i get?"


now, I've never had experience with a pista concept so i can't really comment on its ride, but it seems like they have weak seatpost collars. most of the ones for sale say it's cracked or has been welded. for alu that motobecane ftp on bikesdirect isn't bad. if you're comfortable with doing your own labor for assembly (pulling out bb to grease threads, checking everything is tight, i would say truing wheels but you got that covered) it's a good deal. If you go to a bike shop for maintenance though it'll cost you more.

I like the coltello too. good aluminum, geo on the more aggressive side with a low offset fork. sure it's not a real masi in the purist sense of the word, but it's a nice bike. you can find them used in the ~550 range it seems.

the jamis sonik is legit too.


Thanks, yeah i'm going to forget about the concept, too much hunting down to find one the right size and without big dents and such, but the motobecane to be pretty good for what I need and good price.
Also for the kilo tt on bike direct, the dimensions and weight seems pretty much the same as all the bikes with that shape but doesn't cost $1500+ just for a frame, and is still cromo, with those other frames is the quality that much of a difference?(my old frame not sure of the brand, bought it used but seemed to be the same shape also, now its broken but the frame was 10+ old and had some rust spots in joints) but anyway, I wanted to get a bike for my girlfriend to use to if she wanted to ride with me sometimes, but one that I can slowly upgrade also, but wondering if a the kilo is worth putting quite a bit of cash into?

it's good for a starter bike imo. don't compare it to a $1.5k bike, they're miles apart. I'd say it's comparable to a $5-600ish shop bike

did you say you're in canada? if so bikesdirect doesn't ship to canada, you'll have to ship it to a friend in the US then bring it over yourself or ship it from there.

Yeah in canada, probably will ship to a friend then go and pick it up or ship it back. like the kilo tt to a Colnago Master Pista frame, both similar in weight and shape, but huge difference in price. Can't really say on the build quality, never seen either in person

well, the colnago is fully lugged, better steel, and more "track" geometry. It's also got prestige and style in spades over the kilo. the two are in totally separate leagues and a comparison between the two is pointless.

the kilo tt is a great bike for riding daily, especially with some upgrades (bb, saddle for sure). but like i said it's competitors are more like the langster, se lager, etc.

if you want steel and somewhat aggressive at a decent price point, i highly suggest the soma rush. I tested one and it rides very nicely. only downside is the 1" steerer tube. but I liked that bike a lot (was going to buy it until i ended up winning my peloton unexpectedly on ebay)

Yeah the soma rush is nicely priced also. For the kilo tt a 53cm(56cm c-t) would be fine for 6"0?

Yeah the soma rush is nicely priced also. For the kilo tt a 53cm(56cm c-t) would be fine for 6"0?

i am about 6 foot tall and my girlfriends 55cm frame feels absolutely tiny under me. for a "race fit", i ride a 58cm and for a "classic fit" i ride close to a 60cm

Yeah the soma rush is nicely priced also. For the kilo tt a 53cm(56cm c-t) would be fine for 6"0?

If you're deciding on a Kilo, go for a 55.

Thanks i'll go for the 55cm, thanks guys

My reason for suggesting the 55 is that I'm 5'11" and decided on a 53 but it could have gone either way. Every now and again, I feel a little cramped and kinda wish I went with the 55.

Weird. My friend has a 53 (56 c-t) kilo tt, and it fits me just fine. I'm 5'6".

P.S: I like the PB, scrod

Thanks!

Anyone have any good suggestions for some nice lightweight cranks and pedals? and a good bottom bracket? not super expensive and hard to find, nor cheap, like mid or above mid level track type

there's only one answer to that question:

SRAM Omnium. Check bikeisland, I think you can get it w/ BB shipped for like $160

Thanks i'll check that out, getting sad all these online bike shops dont ship to canada

Beat me to it ATX.

170mm arm length is the standard?