Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Just so you guys know..

I have been using ELECTRICAL TAPE instead of RIM TAPE for about a month now and it has worked without fail.

I use 2-3 layers and that holds up fine in excess of 100 psi.

NOTE: This is on Weinmann DP18s, a semi-deep section rim. So the ends of the spokes don't poke out at all.

but it doesn't look as cool!!

electrical tape _will_ work, but not recommended. it can stretch, slip, and leave adhesive behind.

been doing this for about......25 years? and I agree, never ever had a problem, well no stretching or slipping, although it will leave adhesive behind, but only after a loooooong while, my 1938 Cleveland Welding Co. bike had electric tape on the wheels, it left behind adhesive but it cleaned right off with Acetone.

About a month without failure doesn't exactly sound like thorough testing. I'll stay with rim tape.

edit: Didn't refresh before posting. ilikebikes'e experience is a better vote of confidence. But still, considering the way electrical tape gums up, I think I can afford the tiny expense associated with rim tape.

About a month without failure doesn't exactly sound like thorough testing. I'll stay with rim tape.


how's 'bout 25 years? and hows three years straight without failure sound?

I know it's been used a long time. But when I was researching it everyone said to not use it for high pressure tires, so I just wanted to say it works fine for me.

I'm with you. ^^^^

veloplugs for the win

I tried VeloPlugs. They don't fit DP18s.

I've used electrical tape on a number of wheels.

Never had a problem.

Glue behind? I have no idea ... haven't had to remove the tape (or any other rim tape, for that matter).

I've also been using it ever since I built my first wheels for the then new narrow (and high pressure) clincher rims (Rigida 13-19 red labels) back around 1975. The rear wheel from back then is still in good shape and still has the original electrical tape in it after 35 years. Maybe there would be some glue residue, but I don't see that as a big issue - why would I ever need to replace the tape; and if I did I'd just put another layer of tape over the old glue. Usually the rim tape doesn't get touched until the rim wears out due to brake wear. At that point I remove the tape so I can move the spokes over to a replacement rim. If there's some glue residue I don't care since I'm throwing the old rim out anyway.

Well, I've replaced the electrical tape someone used on the bike they sold my neighbor that led to multiple flats in the first ride. I accept that others experience is different, and maybe you use more or have some better technique than the guy that built her bike, but what's the theoretical advantage here? Save a whole dollar?

I've been using electrical tape on several rims. I just ran out of velox one day and used electrical tape. It's been in two of my rims now for years. I run between 115 and 125 psi in those tires with no problems. I still prefer velox, but won't hesitate to use electrical if that's all I have on hand.

I use Velox if im at the shop and its at my disposal but otherwise, I have a roll of strapping tape in my tool box at home. Iv used it in quite a few rims with out an issue. I ran it in some Deep V's with 145psi at one point and never flatted with it. I was running Schwalbe Ultremo's in case anyone is wondering.

Given that rim strips are about a buck per (http://www.google.com/products?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&hl=en&source=hp&q=rim%20strip&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wf), I'm not sure saving a few cents is really worth it.

Its not about money. Jeez.

what's the theoretical advantage here? Save a whole dollar?
Two advantages:
1) I almost always have electrical tape available whereas I'd have to go out and get some rim tape;
2) it's a little thinner than Velox tape which leads to easier tire changing (the bead of the tire can go down in the channel of the rim a little deeper thus allowing a little more slack in the last section that you're trying to get over the rim's edge).

Two advantages:
1) I almost always have electrical tape available whereas I'd have to go out and get some rim tape;
2) it's a little thinner than Velox tape which leads to easier tire changing (the bead of the tire can go down in the channel of the rim a little deeper thus allowing a little more slack in the last section that you're trying to get over the rim's edge).

Its not worth it....just because someone reports that it hasn't failed, doesn't mean that its not more likely to fail than rim tape. Stick with rim tape (or veloplugs). Its cheap and designed specifically for the job. If its so inconvenient for you to buy rim tape, then buy a few spare rolls on your next visit/mailorder. Id rather do that than have to carry around spare electrical tape in case my electrical tape hack job fails.

Its not worth it....just because someone reports that it hasn't failed, doesn't mean that its not more likely to fail than rim tape. Stick with rim tape (or veloplugs). Its cheap and designed specifically for the job. If its so inconvenient for you to buy rim tape, then buy a few spare rolls on your next visit/mailorder. Id rather do that than have to carry around spare electrical tape in case my electrical tape hack job fails.
But the person reporting that it hasn't failed is me. The first time I did it was because I didn't have any rim tape available. But since it worked fine then I see no reason to quit using it. Electrical tape is now the only type of spoke hole covering I've used for the last 35 years and it has never given me a problem.

it's all about duct tape

Fiber reinforced strapping tape is a reasonable substitute if you don't want to use actual rim tape.

Two advantages:
1) I almost always have electrical tape available whereas I'd have to go out and get some rim tape;
2) it's a little thinner than Velox tape which leads to easier tire changing (the bead of the tire can go down in the channel of the rim a little deeper thus allowing a little more slack in the last section that you're trying to get over the rim's edge).

I just replaced actual rim tape with electrical tape for this very issue. Put a set of Panaracer Closer tires on an older set of Wolber rims. With the rim tape, the tires would not fit at all...With the electrical tape, they fit with only a little effort.

Two advantages:
1) I almost always have electrical tape available whereas I'd have to go out and get some rim tape;
2) it's a little thinner than Velox tape which leads to easier tire changing (the bead of the tire can go down in the channel of the rim a little deeper thus allowing a little more slack in the last section that you're trying to get over the rim's edge).

Number 1) doesn't apply to me, as I have a weird compulsion that doesn't let me check out at a bike shop without throwing a couple things under $5 in the cart. I've got a little pile of rim tape, and anytime someone says the word "flat" I give them a patch kit.
As for 2), a lot of purpose-designed rim tape is a lot thinner than Velox too. But you'd have to get it, which brings us back to 1).

Did rim tape suddenly become prohibitively expensive in your area or somethign?

I bought 2 rolls for a new wheelset the other day and it was $4 plus tax. I realize that if you need it in a pinch, electrical tape is fine but, at $4, you can probably afford to buy back-ups....

Did rim tape suddenly become prohibitively expensive in your area or somethign?

I bought 2 rolls for a new wheelset the other day and it was $4 plus tax. I realize that if you need it in a pinch, electrical tape is fine but, at $4, you can probably afford to buy back-ups....

I just got some from the bike shop the other day and they charged 6$ per roll for velox... pretty expensive if you ask me. I wasn't gonna drive around town to save a few bucks on tape, but if I knew electrical tape was working without issues I would have used it.

I don't like velox. for me it was just barely wide enough to cover the spoke holes, but i might move it with the tire lever when pulling a tire off and push it over slightly, exposing a spoke hole and, bam, flat tire.

that vinyl band stuff that just snaps into place is the best atmo

I visited this thread because I thought it might contain something I'd like to know. Alas - I am disappoint. Thread title is misleading.

Rim tape is $3.00. Electrical tape is $1.50. If you're so much of a tightwad that you won't spend the extra $1.50 for some good ole velox, you should probably find a new sport. Biking costs money, buying reliable gear is a no brainer.

My electrical tape hasn't failed, but I haven't been using it long. If I hadn't put it on, there's absolutely no way I could've gotten those damn tires on....

Why spend $5 on rim tape, when you can use electrical tape and buy CARBON FIBER BAR ENDS INSTEAD?!?!?!?!!!:thumb:

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/MPart_Carbon_Fibre_Road_Bar_End_Plugs/5360013382/

:rolleyes:

I visited this thread because I thought it might contain something I'd like to know. Alas - I am disappoint. Thread title is misleading.

Rim tape is $3.00. Electrical tape is $1.50. If you're so much of a tightwad that you won't spend the extra $1.50 for some good ole velox, you should probably find a new sport. Biking costs money, buying reliable gear is a no brainer.

Sometimes is about what works better. I have to agree with David325. I just installed a set of tires that would not have fit with Velox. Dont get me wrong, I use Velox every chance I can but I have had equal success with electrical and strapping tape.

omg no one mentioned weight? HELLO?>!?!?!? adhesive gummy residue stuffs aka grams!

I love reading huge arguments like this, and then realizing how ridiculous it would be if it were not happening over the internet.

why are you doing this?

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I've used it in the past. No big deal.

veloplugs for me.

Most people in this forum have a special little place in their hearts for electrical tape. It is good for just about everything.

I use electrical tape to secure a $2 LED flashlight under my stem for riding at night. Never tried as rim tape.

I tried the electrical tape thing today on my new rims. Tried with one layer first (stupid) on my front rim, and needless to say, that ended up in a blown out tube. Tried three layers after that on the back rim, and it's held up so far.

Now I just need to head out and get a new tube for the front tire. Probably would have saved me those 5 bucks I'll spend on the tube by getting some rim tape... but my intent wasn't to save money with the electrical tape. I was just lazy and already had the electrical tape lying around here.

Lesson learned... and cool story for you bros

JFC... I just dropped by bicycle habitat on my way to work and rim tape was at $7 PER ROLL. I bought two rolls impulsively and was regretting it the second I walked out the door.

it's ghetto, not as light as velox. it's messy too. it stretches, that is lame. I've done it.

It is fine for ghetto bikes and durable low pressure fred rides but it aint better by any measure.

I've had some tough tire rim combos but never got defeated. Patience grashoppas, even contis will go onto the cheap sun and wiemanns rims with buddha at your back

The regret was gone as soon as I removed the electrical tape and applied the velox. Money well spent.

Its not the money saved. Although Velox is more than a buck a rim, I find.

Its about finishing up a build some evening when the LBS is closed and you really want to get it on the road.

I have used electrical tape, but it makes me nervous how it bellies into the spoke holes. Seems like an unnecessary gamble. Instead, I almost exclusively use black fiberless strapping tape. It is made to hold under stress like that. And does not leave behind any residue or gummy fibers if removed. Its adhesive seems only to stick well to itself. So it peels off nicely, and yet is sticky enough to stay in place. And its even thinner than electrical tape. And I bought a tube of about a dozen rolls on eBay once for a few dollars. I would guess that will last me through my next 1000 or so wheel builds.

jim

A couple months ago i took my wheelset to the shop and asked them for new rim tape and tubes. After that I would get a flat at least once a week, turns out the LBS had the nerve to put electrical tape on my rim. After replacing with rim tape I haven't had a flat since.