Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - kilo tt geo question

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skid on me
02-09-10, 06:23 PM
is it just me, or are some kilo tt frame's geo different from others. the frames are the same size, so thats not it. just take a look.

http://velospace.org/files/DSC_0029small.jpg
vs
http://velospace.org/files/3973468958_de76967d22.jpg


the first one looks tighter to me. but then i look at it again and see no difference. i need other peoples opinions

TejanoTrackie
02-09-10, 06:51 PM
Different forks?
JoaiM3
02-09-10, 08:03 PM
First picture is tilted, second picture is flat. Seems like the same geo to me.

skid on me
02-09-10, 09:30 PM
im thinking different forks too
jakerock
02-10-10, 11:20 PM
No. They are all different. Even of the same frame size. Me and a buddy both have 57's and his looks like a funky-awesome track bike and mine looks like a chopper.
bigvegan
02-11-10, 12:23 AM
Hopefully Mr. Bikesdirect can pop in and give us the full answer.
BoozyMcliverRot
02-11-10, 01:20 AM
Depends on if you got your bike from Bikesdirect or Bikeisland,my 55 fits like a57.
skid on me
02-11-10, 01:25 AM
great. so its random...
BoozyMcliverRot
02-11-10, 02:07 AM
great. so its random...

Talk to this guy,he's honest and fair(and he sells frames and complete builds)

bikesdirect_com
jakerock
02-14-10, 12:15 AM
Come on now... They are all the damn same geo!
tFUnK
02-14-10, 02:22 AM
lol.. different forks, maybe different sized tires (and on different wheelsets, which makes them visually different), and rear tire clearance is affected gear ratio (due to chain length and where they mount on the dropouts).
mihlbach
02-14-10, 05:15 AM
Probably different amounts of fork rake, but I doubt the geometry of the frames are different. Its cheaper to make the exact same cookie cutter frame over and over again. Why would they vary the geometry?

However, I have long doubted the posted geometry charts for several of the BD fixed gear offerings. Some of them just seem too weird to be true or they appear to be off compared to the bikes themselves.
Dave Hickey
02-14-10, 08:01 AM
The bike in the second picture has the front wheel turned...Straighten the bars and the geo will look the same
Scrodzilla
02-14-10, 09:01 AM
There are definitely different amounts of fork rake. I've compared mine side by side with a few others and it's pretty noticeable.
erichsia
02-14-10, 01:33 PM
The bike in the second picture has the front wheel turned...Straighten the bars and the geo will look the same

this. you can see it in the handle bars too.
ncohen
02-14-10, 05:27 PM
The front triangle looks wider in the bottom picture, but maybe it's just me.
erichsia
02-14-10, 09:31 PM
the bottom picture was also shot with a wide angle lens. there is a bit of distortion evident, the bike is probably slightly bowed from it.
gobby1095
02-14-10, 11:11 PM
Why not just ask mike? Too easy?