Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Bike=transportation?

I get annoyed when people I know describe me as an avid cyclist. True, I love the freedom that the bicycle represents for me in financial terms as well as independance from a car, but an avid cyclist? I don't own a car which is one of those alltime good moves that i made, like when i quit smoking 4 years ago.

I had high cholesteral, road rage, and a severely restricted income due to the economy and trying to support gas+insurance+repairs on my car. Got rid of the car more and more until November of last year, when i got rid of it for good. Winter, snow, and my bike was such a great combination. It proved to me that if I could make it in the winter i could make it period without a car.

So anyway, I love my bike, don't get me wrong, but I hardly ride the thing! I ride it a couple miles back and forth from work, to the store, to a friends house, wherever i need to go. No fitness, no fun, just basic transportation man.

Anybody else like me or am i alone here?

Most days I get probably less than 10 miles in. No car. It's transportation for me too... But everyone at work thinks I'm hardcore because I'm almost always right on time no matter what the weather is, which is pretty cold out here sometimes.

how did you quit smoking? I urgently need to kick the habit

When I started messengering, I was unfit, slightly overweight and on prozac after 4 years with various ****ty 'new economy' it companies. Now I utterly love my life, income levels have nothing to do with job enjoyment. Altough I'd very much like a campy/phil equipped titanium serotta track bike, thank you very much ;)

"Avid cyclist" is a phrase used by people who are complete morons. These people are also called journalists, sometimes. Others of this ilk use the word because these journalists had said it in their presence. They know not of what they speaketh. Ignore them. You will be a happier man.

Who cares what they call me,,,,,,just don't call me late for supper!!!

Definitions of avid on the Web:

(often followed by `for') ardently or excessively desirous; "avid for adventure"; "an avid ambition to succeed"; "fierce devouring affection"; "the esurient eyes of an avid curiosity"; "greedy for fame"

No your not avid. My truck failed inspection in April so it sits in my yard. I use it still to take trash out illegally but F'em. I commute 10 miles to work.

kurremkarm,

I'm with you 100%. I too made the great decisions to 1) get rid of car due to expense and 2) kicked the smoking (partly due to expense). Both were surprisingly easy - cold turkey on both. I'll grant you that it was probably the 5th + time I quit smoking, but it stuck this time. Regardless, kurremkarm, I'm glad you said it. I love riding my bike, but I'm not one to turn down a lift from a friend and I'll take the train across town rather than biking all the way (unless it is just a beautiful and I want to be outside, i.e. multi-tasking).

When I quit smoking cartons of cigarettes were 20 dollars. I used to wake up every morning with a cough and this sort of constant need to clear my throat. I did try to quit many times over the years but when I finally decided to quit and to do it for myself it was easy. I remember feeling the cravings which were quite strong after 15 years of smoking and saying, man i want a cigarette. But i would always reply to myself, it doesnt matter because you aren't going to smoke, reguardless.

That was how i quit. I wanted to. I acknowledged my cravings. I said I won't smoke anyways. Oh yeah, and use a patch. :P

Getting rid of the car was the same sort of positive affirmation of life that quitting smoking was, it was a longterm view on life that was all about me.

Same here. Although I am hoping for a bit of wieghtloss to come with it. :) My car stopped running due to a batterie issue last December and I just 'never got around' to fixing it. Starting taking the streetcar to work more, then I got my bike about 4 months ago. Commuting about 3-4 miles each way, more on monday, thursday and Saturday when I go to the bike project. Some of my coworkers think I'm hardcore too, especially when i got my gloves. :)

When I quit smoking cartons of cigarettes were 20 dollars. I used to wake up every morning with a cough and this sort of constant need to clear my throat. I did try to quit many times over the years but when I finally decided to quit and to do it for myself it was easy. I remember feeling the cravings which were quite strong after 15 years of smoking and saying, man i want a cigarette. But i would always reply to myself, it doesnt matter because you aren't going to smoke, reguardless.

That was how i quit. I wanted to. I acknowledged my cravings. I said I won't smoke anyways. Oh yeah, and use a patch. :P

Getting rid of the car was the same sort of positive affirmation of life that quitting smoking was, it was a longterm view on life that was all about me.

thanks for the inspiration. I plan to quit next week. I hate waking up in the morning with mouth tasting like vultures arse. Car drivers beware, there's one angry twitchy messenger about next week...

My car gets driven once or twice a month.

As for quitting cigs... there's no cutting back IMO. you just have to wake up one day and say you're not smoking again. Find something to replace the cigs with... for me, it was exercise, for some (unfortunately), it's food.

It's basic transportation for me, too. The main reasons I bike:

1) I am extremely impatient and hate waiting for buses or rides--I like the self-sufficiency it allows
2) I don't want the expense or responsibility of a car
3) The state of my mental health seems better when I'm biking as opposed to busing or driving
4) I don't exercise otherwise

I get annoyed when people I know describe me as an avid cyclist. True, I love the freedom that the bicycle represents for me in financial terms as well as independance from a car, but an avid cyclist? I don't own a car which is one of those alltime good moves that i made, like when i quit smoking 4 years ago.

I had high cholesteral, road rage, and a severely restricted income due to the economy and trying to support gas+insurance+repairs on my car. Got rid of the car more and more until November of last year, when i got rid of it for good. Winter, snow, and my bike was such a great combination. It proved to me that if I could make it in the winter i could make it period without a car.

So anyway, I love my bike, don't get me wrong, but I hardly ride the thing! I ride it a couple miles back and forth from work, to the store, to a friends house, wherever i need to go. No fitness, no fun, just basic transportation man.

Anybody else like me or am i alone here?

yes I know what you mean- I prefer cycling somewhere rather than just cycling for its own sake (though I do cycle at the weekends just for fun). No one says "you are an avid car driver" just because you drive a lot. Cycling is just seen as a bit eccentric and nutty and the word avid just reflects this. I have a car but lately I have considered going carless. I hate driving the car in the city. If it wasn't for the shopping I would have ditched the car long ago. The car is very nice though for hitting the supermarket and filling up the back with a ton of groceries. Just a shame that it costs so much just for a few shopping runs but I can't think of any really practical alternative.

I also quit smoking after 15 years. Cold turkey. One of the best, if not the best decision I've ever made. Buying a bike was up there on that list of good decisions too. As of now I aspire to be car free. I use my bike as much as possible but I still need to be more confident that I can do it. I estimate a year or two before I sell my car and use the profit on a hottie track bike.

Most of my bikes ( 5 ) have Avid brakes, so I must be an avid cyclist.

"Just a shame that it costs so much just for a few shopping runs but I can't think of any really practical alternative."

what would a cab cost for those few shopping runs? I suspect less than your car payment/insurance/gas/maintenance per year.

I ride, fix, talk about, read about bikes whenever possible. Due to my work hours and long commute, free time is at a minimum. Family comes first. I wake up early My wife complains about my obsession with bikes. People at work know me as the bike expert, even though I am not one. Does this make me an avid cyclist? Maybe. Do I care? Not really. At least they're not calling me an avid couch potato of which some of my coworkers secretly aspire to be.

I've been car-free for almost a year now. I found that the key to doing so is getting a trailer. I have a BOB - they're about 300 bucks, but well worth it - cheaper than keeping the car around. The BOB can carry a lot of stuff despite its size - I've violated the 70lb limit several times.

Ditto what gilby said!

I stopped by the expensive bike shop the other day for a tube. I was like "$8 for a tube?!" The sales dude quips, "find another sport!" fluk that, this is my transportation!

I'm all for more people biking, but it really doesn't help "the cause" to be a purely recreational cyclist. Be happy in the margin and that's where you'll stay... choking on exhaust or getting smacked by an SUV

--orange

Ditto what gilby said!

I stopped by the expensive bike shop the other day for a tube. I was like "$8 for a tube?!" The sales dude quips, "find another sport!" fluk that, this is my transportation!

I'm all for more people biking, but it really doesn't help "the cause" to be a purely recreational cyclist. Be happy in the margin and that's where you'll stay... choking on exhaust or getting smacked by an SUV

--orange

yeah, tube-shock. they seem to have goten super expendsive. 5 bucks on average. after living in the city with (nyc) no bike for almost a year (no funds), i had to wqalk/subway, but mostly walk everywhere. when I got a beater, it changed my feelings about the city. now keep the beater, with the largest wald basket locked outside, and my fixed inside. ride fixed to work and for fun, as for everything else, i;m on the beater haulin stuff. you can fit an amazing amout in those baskets. once had an oll cast iron sink and pedestal in it (at least 100lbs). running a big ol ritchey moby bite with somewhat low peressure (too low), and it was pretty sketchy, but the basket and the tire held up.

Ditto what gilby said!

I stopped by the expensive bike shop the other day for a tube. I was like "$8 for a tube?!" The sales dude quips, "find another sport!" fluk that, this is my transportation!

$8?!~?!!~?

tubes at my shop are $3.95 for normal tubes, presta, schraeder, any size, and $5.95 for long-stem presta tubes...$4.95 for the stupid 24x3.0 electra fatti-O tubes that we had to special order, and that i'm almost certain no one will ever buy.

oh yeah, i use my bike as my primary transportation as well, but i see no reason why i can't get out on the weekends for long, relaxing, get-away-from-the-freeway-ridden-smog-infested-go-go-fast-fast-now-now-now-world rides.

GF has a car. been telling her lately that she needs to stop driving it, because she's always so worked up and grumpy when she gets home, and that's not good for her. but she needs the car to get to school (school in SF, we live in berkeley, and BART is a tremendous pain in the ass, plus it's like, $10 round-trip to get from our house to her school, 5 days a week, from august to may...) she does carpool though...

I don't care if someone called me a avid cyclist. I generally don't ride for the sake of riding. However, I wonder how "good for the cause" avid cyclists are. Basically, I'm talking about the folks all decked out on their expensive bikes, road or mtb. Not that I'm really criticizing them, but I think that sort of rider simply reinforces the notion of bicycles being only recreational toys. And a bit of a uppity recreation, at that. The vast majority of bicycling commuters I see ride very cheap *mart bikes, and do so because they have no choice. Once in a while, I see a commuter who could probably afford a car (and probabaly has one), but chooses bike. But these folks are definitely a minority.

Basically, I think the serious biking community speaks out of both sides of it's mouth. On the one hand it wants bicycling taken more seriously. At the same time, it still treats biking as a largely recreational luxury activity/conspicuous consumption activity. I suspect all those bicycling commuters on *mart bikes are working hard to not be in any part of a bicycling community.

on expensive tubes....redrill your rims for schraeder. buy tubes at the hardware store (walmart for the suburbanites). 3 bucks

"plus it's like, $10 round-trip to get from our house to her school, 5 days a week, from august to may"

that sounds like a tremendous bargain; cant understand how she can drive for less that that...

Where you people buying your tubes from?! I think the local bike shop charges $5 - including labor - for the tube plus installation.

I had a car when I first came to Chicago. As soon as my parents brought up my bike, though, I had them take my car back to Missouri because I didn't want or need it any more. Between walking, riding, and public transportation, I get around town fine. Don't need a car, don't want a car. I'm happier, healthier, and slightly more sane without one.

Two wheels beat the hell out of four.

I use it when I feel like it, for what purpose I see fit, and wherever I see f**king fit.

Where you people buying your tubes from?! I think the local bike shop charges $5 - including labor - for the tube plus installation.

I've seen a lot of 3 for $10 deals around town to.

Please don't tell me you can't change a tube. If so, I think you might be due for some basic mechanic lessons :)

I stopped by the expensive bike shop the other day for a tube. I was like "$8 for a tube?!" The sales dude quips, "find another sport!" fluk that, this is my transportation!

--orange

I ALWAYS buy my tubes in bulk from performance. Seems like they always have the ten packs on sale for $20. $2 a tube is perfect and I refuse to pay any more.

I just bought a ten pack from Perfomance(the best deal around),as for the rest of this thread I say boo.

"Just a shame that it costs so much just for a few shopping runs but I can't think of any really practical alternative."

what would a cab cost for those few shopping runs? I suspect less than your car payment/insurance/gas/maintenance per year.

I thought of taxis but there are a number of disadvantages - when I said a ton of groceries I wasn´t exaggerating. I dont think a (Munich) taxi driver would be too pleased about loading the car up with so much shopping. I also would be nervous relying on taxi´s so completely. Sometimes you ring them and they come and sometimes they don´t. Sometimes there just aren´t any to be had. The do not want to take pre-bookings and there only seems to be one taxi telephone number. Munich is not a shining example of service industries at their best and being left waiting at the supermarket with a ton of groceries is not my idea of fun. You are right it would be cheaper and possible in theory, if I went shopping more often or hired a car occasionally for example but it would all be extra hassle that I could do without.

I did also think of a trailer. I once had a cheap one that was not very good and that may have put me off the idea but maybe if I had a good one then I could do it. That would be the most attractive option I think.

I've seen a lot of 3 for $10 deals around town to.

Please don't tell me you can't change a tube. If so, I think you might be due for some basic mechanic lessons :)

I can change a tube, thanks. :p

dang i wish so much i could be car-less, but anywhere you live in california (except possibly for san francisco) you HAVE to have a car. reading this thread, though, has made me think that maybe my wife and i can do with one car instead of two...

I buy tubes in bulk, too... just happened to shred one beyond patching, while only carrying a patch kit not a spare tube. Hope that puts everyone's mind at ease...

--orange

I don't have a car, or a license, never got it.

I ride everyday, 6-7 miles each way. Keeps me in good shape and happy, a great way to work out stress from work.

I don't think it is that wierd, there are a lot of us.

Phil