javal
02-14-10, 01:41 AM
2010 Swedish Crescent releases the Valkenburg, a replica of the 1948 world championship bike. A piece of art! Opinions?
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Swedish exotica - The Valkenburg replica
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filtersweep
02-14-10, 03:05 AM
It had rear brake cable guides?
stryper
02-14-10, 05:55 AM
and ergo road drops
xB_Nutt
02-14-10, 11:17 AM
and a threadless stem, and cheap cranks...
Bicycle Funk
02-14-10, 12:21 PM
Fail.
LupinIII
02-14-10, 12:31 PM
tig welded, ergo drops, threadless, cheap cranks, cable guides, brake drillings
lets make a silver bike with low profile rims and call it an old school replica. f their lives
lets make a silver bike with low profile rims and call it an old school replica. f their lives
Sixty Fiver
02-14-10, 12:33 PM
It is nothing close to the bikes that were ridden in 1948... it is a new bike that is capitalizing on a little bit of racing history.
Fails as a reproduction on every level but it might be a pretty nice ride with those more relaxed frame angles and not every kid on the block will have one.
Fails as a reproduction on every level but it might be a pretty nice ride with those more relaxed frame angles and not every kid on the block will have one.
Sixty Fiver
02-14-10, 12:46 PM
You will see that in the 40's and 50's many fixed gear road bikes ran dual brakes for single speed descents but they would have been mounted as road brakes and not cross levers.
Briek Shotte won the 1948 Championship and was a very highly rated racer in his day having won the World Championship twice (in the professional classification) in '48 and '50, finished second behind Bartali in the 1948 TDF, in addition to many other notable wins.
He is one of Belgium's national heroes.
http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/d/324411-3/Brik+Schotte.JPG
This statue shows some great bike detail...
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/5008943.jpg
Full size image (awesome) - http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/5008943.jpg
Briek Shotte won the 1948 Championship and was a very highly rated racer in his day having won the World Championship twice (in the professional classification) in '48 and '50, finished second behind Bartali in the 1948 TDF, in addition to many other notable wins.
He is one of Belgium's national heroes.
http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/d/324411-3/Brik+Schotte.JPG
This statue shows some great bike detail...
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/5008943.jpg
Full size image (awesome) - http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/5008943.jpg
fuzz2050
02-14-10, 12:59 PM
I'm with Sixty Fiver, if it had road levers, not those interrupter levers, maybe normal road drops, wing nuts, and those handlebar mounted aluminium water bottles, I might consider buying it. It's not a replica, more of a re-imagining.
ismellfish2
02-14-10, 01:16 PM
It's a halfhearted, poorly thought out ploy to get hipsters to get out their wallets.
xkillemallx16
02-14-10, 02:21 PM
replica my ass
robb99
02-14-10, 06:48 PM
You will see that in the 40's and 50's many fixed gear road bikes ran dual brakes for single speed descents but they would have been mounted as road brakes and not cross levers.
Briek Shotte won the 1948 Championship and was a very highly rated racer in his day having won the World Championship twice (in the professional classification) in '48 and '50, finished second behind Bartali in the 1948 TDF, in addition to many other notable wins.
He is one of Belgium's national heroes.
http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/d/324411-3/Brik+Schotte.JPG
This statue shows some great bike detail...
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/5008943.jpg
Full size image (awesome) - http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/5008943.jpg
always with knowledge
Briek Shotte won the 1948 Championship and was a very highly rated racer in his day having won the World Championship twice (in the professional classification) in '48 and '50, finished second behind Bartali in the 1948 TDF, in addition to many other notable wins.
He is one of Belgium's national heroes.
http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/d/324411-3/Brik+Schotte.JPG
This statue shows some great bike detail...
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/5008943.jpg
Full size image (awesome) - http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/5008943.jpg
always with knowledge
ilikebikes
02-14-10, 08:26 PM
You will see that in the 40's and 50's many fixed gear road bikes ran dual brakes for single speed descents but they would have been mounted as road brakes and not cross levers.
Briek Shotte won the 1948 Championship and was a very highly rated racer in his day having won the World Championship twice (in the professional classification) in '48 and '50, finished second behind Bartali in the 1948 TDF, in addition to many other notable wins.
He is one of Belgium's national heroes.
http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/d/324411-3/Brik+Schotte.JPG
This statue shows some great bike detail...
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/5008943.jpg
Full size image (awesome) - http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/5008943.jpg
:thumb:
BTW, OP, that "replica" only replicates every other cheapo FG/SS on the market.
Briek Shotte won the 1948 Championship and was a very highly rated racer in his day having won the World Championship twice (in the professional classification) in '48 and '50, finished second behind Bartali in the 1948 TDF, in addition to many other notable wins.
He is one of Belgium's national heroes.
http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/d/324411-3/Brik+Schotte.JPG
This statue shows some great bike detail...
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/5008943.jpg
Full size image (awesome) - http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/5008943.jpg
:thumb:
BTW, OP, that "replica" only replicates every other cheapo FG/SS on the market.
Sixty Fiver
02-14-10, 08:52 PM
always with knowledge
I ride and work on bikes from that era... just finished putting my '54 Raleigh together tonight although it's a 3 speed.
I have enough fixed gear bikes already.
I ride and work on bikes from that era... just finished putting my '54 Raleigh together tonight although it's a 3 speed.
I have enough fixed gear bikes already.
Nigal
02-14-10, 09:08 PM
This thread is a whole truck load of retro grouch. LOL!
"Why the bike's hub is 2cm larger than the original dutch bike's. Who would be caught dead on this travesty to cycling history in deed. Pip pip."
"Why the bike's hub is 2cm larger than the original dutch bike's. Who would be caught dead on this travesty to cycling history in deed. Pip pip."
Sixty Fiver
02-14-10, 10:10 PM
This thread is a whole truck load of retro grouch. LOL!
"Why the bike's hub is 2cm larger than the original dutch bike's. Who would be caught dead on this travesty to cycling history in deed. Pip pip."
Whole post chock full o' fail.
Look up the word "reproduction" as it applies to material objects.
As a commemorative it is fine.
"Why the bike's hub is 2cm larger than the original dutch bike's. Who would be caught dead on this travesty to cycling history in deed. Pip pip."
Whole post chock full o' fail.
Look up the word "reproduction" as it applies to material objects.
As a commemorative it is fine.
mrvile
02-14-10, 10:11 PM
This thread is a whole truck load of retro grouch. LOL!
"Why the bike's hub is 2cm larger than the original dutch bike's. Who would be caught dead on this travesty to cycling history in deed. Pip pip."
Guess you weren't here for the "replica vs. tribute" thread.
"Why the bike's hub is 2cm larger than the original dutch bike's. Who would be caught dead on this travesty to cycling history in deed. Pip pip."
Guess you weren't here for the "replica vs. tribute" thread.
javal
02-16-10, 11:09 AM
tribute might be a better description. But you cant change history or the glory of the Crescent name - I´m sure the intentions alright cos the hipsters of today dont know about 1948:innocent:
Catnap
02-16-10, 02:07 PM
FAIL. the whole cockpit of that bike looks cheap. how are you gonna make a "tribute" bike and not have a quill stem and proper track bars on the thing?
javal
02-17-10, 09:50 AM
FAIL. the whole cockpit of that bike looks cheap. how are you gonna make a "tribute" bike and not have a quill stem and proper track bars on the thing?
...and still dont get it.
...and still dont get it.
Catnap
02-17-10, 11:49 AM
...and still dont get it.
exactly, just like everyone else in this thread. if you're the only one who "gets it" then maybe it needs a re-thinking? 'cause it's not impressing anyone in its current state.
exactly, just like everyone else in this thread. if you're the only one who "gets it" then maybe it needs a re-thinking? 'cause it's not impressing anyone in its current state.
javal
02-18-10, 12:53 PM
exactly, just like everyone else in this thread. if you're the only one who "gets it" then maybe it needs a re-thinking? 'cause it's not impressing anyone in its current state.
no need to re-think anything, I´m not posting to "impress" anyone (in this thread). And track bars is neither replica nor tribute on a -48 road bike.
no need to re-think anything, I´m not posting to "impress" anyone (in this thread). And track bars is neither replica nor tribute on a -48 road bike.
Nigal
02-18-10, 05:05 PM
Whole post chock full o' fail.
Look up the word "reproduction" as it applies to material objects.
As a commemorative it is fine.
Sorry. Didn't mean to hit to close to home there. :)
Look up the word "reproduction" as it applies to material objects.
As a commemorative it is fine.
Sorry. Didn't mean to hit to close to home there. :)
Scrodzilla
02-18-10, 05:28 PM
And how is this bike hugely different from (or better than) the average stock Kilo TT?
The 'intention' may be alright but the delivery misses the mark, in my opinion.
The 'intention' may be alright but the delivery misses the mark, in my opinion.
soyboy
02-20-10, 11:27 AM
if crescent wants to catch hipsters they should reintroduce the orange/racing flags/world champ stripe paint scheme of thethe 1970s
Sixty Fiver
02-20-10, 12:11 PM
if crescent wants to catch hipsters they should reintroduce the orange/racing flags/world champ stripe paint scheme of thethe 1970s
That would catch me.. hipsters would strip the frame and paint it black.
That would catch me.. hipsters would strip the frame and paint it black.
javal
02-23-10, 12:45 AM
if crescent wants to catch hipsters they should reintroduce the orange/racing flags/world champ stripe paint scheme of thethe 1970s
:thumb:
:thumb:
the_don
02-23-10, 04:27 AM
replica my ass
post a photo and we can try!
post a photo and we can try!
the_don
02-23-10, 04:31 AM
...and still dont get it.
That's a good argument for basically getting a taiwanese factory to produce the same bike they have been making for years, in colours a little similar to a classic track bike.
Nothing on this bike makes it a replica, nothing even makes it a tribute bike because a tribute bike would have good parts on it, unless it was a tribute to some POS bike made 50 years ago! but why would you even bother tributing that!
だから FAIL!
That's a good argument for basically getting a taiwanese factory to produce the same bike they have been making for years, in colours a little similar to a classic track bike.
Nothing on this bike makes it a replica, nothing even makes it a tribute bike because a tribute bike would have good parts on it, unless it was a tribute to some POS bike made 50 years ago! but why would you even bother tributing that!
だから FAIL!