Classic and Vintage Bicycles: What's it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries - Cinelli Frame- need help to identify

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ACME911
02-16-10, 10:07 AM
Hi,

I could use some help in identifying this frame. I have a link to pic's:
http://gallery.me.com/cheryl_demars#100099

Thanks for the help.
Cheers Andy

JunkYardBike
02-16-10, 10:28 AM
I don't think it's a Cinelli frame. Cinelli sold frame parts like the bottom bracket shell on yours. It is a very nice looking handbuilt frame, however. If you don't intend on asking for an appraisal, you might want this moved to the main C&V forum. Not everyone who browses there reads this subforum.

If you post in the main C&V forum, title it something like "Mystery Frame". There are a few members who greatly enjoy a challenge like this, and they're quite good at steering you in the right direction.
norskagent
02-16-10, 10:36 AM
a shot of the head tube area would help also.

unworthy1
02-16-10, 09:51 PM
Not a Cinelli...I'm trying to remember who made and used that fork crown,EDIT: it looks to be a Henry James IC crown, so even more evidence that at least the fork is from a US custom builder...
very distinctive...I think this could be a custom American builder.
The dropouts have the "portacatena" holes which date those bits to around 1978 till the early '80s.
I don't think the forkcrown and those dropouts were available at the same time on this planet, so maybe a later built fork, or built using whatever parts he had on hand at the time. Please confirm that is has BSC threading in the BB.
ACME911
02-17-10, 12:55 PM
Hi, I did as you suggested and moved to C&V forum.

Thanks
MileHighMark
02-17-10, 01:02 PM
The fork crown and seat cluster style certainly don't look like any Cinelli I've ever seen.
ACME911
02-17-10, 01:11 PM
I posted some more pic's on my link and the fork crown does look like a Henry James.

Thanks All
EjustE
02-17-10, 04:01 PM
That looks like a custom bike. Probably early 80s. Is the BB English or Italian?
JohnDThompson
02-17-10, 04:28 PM
Hi,

I could use some help in identifying this frame. I have a link to pic's:
http://gallery.me.com/cheryl_demars#100099

Thanks for the help.
Cheers Andy
That's not a Cinelli. The fork crown and lugs look like Henry James products, so my guess would be an American builder.

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/henryjames.jpg
ACME911
02-17-10, 07:50 PM
Yes, I agree the lugs are Henry James, the BB is Cinelli and the drops are Campy and Cable guides. So does anyone have guess as to the year and maker? It came with Super Record Components.

Thanks Again.