Touring - surly lht's : post photos !

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al5
08-18-04, 08:49 AM
There are a few of us that have surly lht's.. why not post photos? (i would post mine, but as of now it's just a bare frame). i'd love to see different approaches to outfitting it.


murraylove
08-19-04, 10:54 PM
http://photos.yahoo.com/murraylove

rnagaoka
08-20-04, 12:00 PM
murrylove, your bike brings tears to my eyes! Beau-ti-ful!


tkehler
08-20-04, 12:08 PM
The name ought to be MurrayLovesHisBike.

Great shots, great bike. I'm just not sure about the tape. It looks great but does it beat gel-tape for comfort?

al5
08-20-04, 04:00 PM
beautiful! what stem is that?

murraylove
08-20-04, 11:35 PM
Great shots, great bike. I'm just not sure about the tape. It looks great but does it beat gel-tape for comfort?

Thanks. I've never used gel tape, so I wouldn't know. It's shellac over cork, and I think it feels great. It retains cork's springiness but gives it a smooth surface which, IMO, is far superior to the plain cork feel.

murraylove
08-20-04, 11:39 PM
beautiful! what stem is that?

It was labelled "Ritchey Comp Lite", but it appears to be a generic Taiwanese stem for OEM bikes. I dug it out of a bin at the bike shop, and there were lots of others like it.

The headset spacer is a custom job, because I hated the look of the regular aftermarket spacers. I bought a length of thinwall aluminum tube that sleeves over 1 1/8" tubing, polished it up, then cut it to length.

SSenorPedro
08-21-04, 12:23 AM
A quick question....Where did you find the cable hanger for your front brake? I have been looking all over for a similar device for my bike (threadless headset).

-Pete

murraylove
08-21-04, 01:37 PM
A quick question....Where did you find the cable hanger for your front brake? I have been looking all over for a similar device for my bike (threadless headset).

-Pete

I found it in the threadless headset accessories box in the bike shop where I'm working for the summer. They should be readily available through a supplier like QBP--they're listed in QBP's Special Order Catalog (http://harriscyclery.net/site/page.cfm?PageID=49&Category=443) (through Harris Cyclery).

bwgride
08-28-04, 09:35 AM
murrylove -- I see you have two sets of brake levers -- how are you getting them to work together?

murraylove
08-28-04, 04:01 PM
murrylove -- I see you have two sets of brake levers -- how are you getting them to work together?

The bar-top levers are Nashbar/Tektro cyclocross levers, otherwise known as "interrupter" levers. They're designed to work with road brake levers: the brake cable runs through the 'cross levers as if they're not there, but they "interrupt" the cable housing (that is, one section of housing runs to the 'cross levers, and another section runs from them). When you actuate the 'cross levers, it has the effect of shortening the cable housing, which works the brakes. Very nifty, and not a hindrance to the regular levers at all.

schooltheworld
08-28-04, 06:35 PM
hey murraylove, is that a brooks b17 "honeybrown" saddle on your lht?
just wondering...might get it myself for my lht if it is.

bwgride
08-28-04, 08:16 PM
Thanks for the note on the levers.

murraylove
08-29-04, 07:12 PM
hey murraylove, is that a brooks b17 "honeybrown" saddle on your lht?
just wondering...might get it myself for my lht if it is.

Yep. It's a B17 Champion Special, meaning it has the bigger rivets, skived (chamfered) edges, and (perhaps) thicker leather than the regular B17. If you like to slide the saddle all the way back on the rails (as I do), make sure you get a seatpost with plenty of setback, as the Brooks saddles have pretty short rails.

schooltheworld
08-29-04, 07:37 PM
thanks.
now...how the hell does your sweet looking ride ride murraylove. have you gone touring with it? loaded? is it just a pretty thing or does it does it kick major butay like i think it does?

rnagaoka
08-31-04, 06:34 PM
Looks like you got your handlebar tape to match perfectly with your honey Brooks. What brand/color is that cork tape? ...and does shellacing the tape darken it substantially?

murraylove
09-01-04, 10:35 PM
Looks like you got your handlebar tape to match perfectly with your honey Brooks. What brand/color is that cork tape? ...and does shellacing the tape darken it substantially?

The tape is Nashbar natural cork ribbon, but you get the same effect with Cinelli. The amber shellac darkens the tape colour with every coat, and I put on four or five. If you use clear shellac, I expect there'd be a lot less darkening.

murraylove
09-01-04, 10:52 PM
thanks.
now...how the hell does your sweet looking ride ride murraylove. have you gone touring with it? loaded? is it just a pretty thing or does it does it kick major butay like i think it does?

Unfortunately, I built the LHT up during a lull in my cycling activity; my commute is only a kilometre or so, and I'm having trouble finding time to ride otherwise. But it does ride very nicely--it feels very smooth and efficient, and handling is surprisingly responsive; there's a lot of loose talk around about touring bikes being slow and sluggish-handling, but the LHT doesn't feel like that at all. It follows the line I pick through corners with no reluctance at all. I'm generally skeptical about bike magazine blather about frame materials and comfort; frame geometry, tire selection, and rider position have a much greater effect, IMO. But whatever it is, the LHT feels a lot more comfortable on relatively narrow 700x32 Paselas than my XO-3 did on wide 26x1.75 Schwalbe Marathons. Perhaps it's the wheelbase, or the slightly larger wheel diameter, whatever. It feels great.

And I can't say enough good things about getting my handlebars up around saddle height, a position easy to achieve with the LHT. This makes a HUGE difference to comfort. For the first time in ages, I find myself forgetting my position on the bike, since I no longer have to concentrate on keeping my arms and shoulders relaxed; the high bars put my upper body in an easy, relaxed position.

MrEWorm
09-02-04, 06:40 AM
MurrayLove, have you tried other touring bikes? How does the LHT ride compared to Trek 520 etc?

How is the LHT differ from the Crosscheck?

I like the way the honey brown saddle looks with the green paint. I have a B17 on my red crosscheck. I considered the honey brown but stayed conservative and stuck to the black.

murraylove
09-02-04, 09:07 AM
MurrayLove, have you tried other touring bikes? How does the LHT ride compared to Trek 520 etc?

How is the LHT differ from the Crosscheck?

I like the way the honey brown saddle looks with the green paint. I have a B17 on my red crosscheck. I considered the honey brown but stayed conservative and stuck to the black.

Didn't ride the 520. Only one dealer in town, and he's a jerk. Also, I'd have done a major amount of component swapping on the 520 (getting rid of the silly 30/42/52 road triple and "anatomic" handlebars, for instance), and so it just didn't appeal. The 520 geometry is pretty similar to the 60cm LHT in the XL size, though, so I'm sure it's a fundamentally decent bike.

My first bike was a 23" 1989 Schwinn Voyageur, a very traditional touring bike spoiled (like the 520) by half-assed stock specs--big cushy gel saddle, ultra-crap Maillard hubs, etc. Also, it was probably a size too small, though I had no idea at the time I bought it. Still, I toured for several thousand miles on it. Since then, I've mostly been riding a Bridgestone XO-3--too small again, and a jarringly rough ride, even with big tires.

Compared to the CrossCheck, the LHT has 1) Much longer chainstays (46cm vs. 42.5 cm). This is important to me, since I have big feet and they kept hitting the panniers on my XO-3. 2) Higher bottom bracket, by ~12mm. Lots of people believe that bikes with low BBs are more stable and better-handling, though I couldn't really say. 3) Shorter head tube, which makes it more difficult to get the bars up high enough. 4) Vertical dropouts and downtube shifter bosses. Other than that, the CrossCheck geometry's pretty similar in things like head/seat tube angles and top tube lengths, at least in my size. The deciding factors were the chainstays and the head tube length. But the CrossCheck is a great bike--I'm going to build one up for my girlfriend.

Murray

cmarkey
09-15-04, 10:20 AM
I got my LHT in July, use it mostly for commuting (35 mi round trip), but I got a chance to take it on its' (and my) first bikepacking trip on the C&O Canal in MD.

It handled everything great, I really loaded it up with all my friend's gear for the ride and it took it very well, I really didn't feel a difference except in increased stability. Of course, the C&O is completely flat . . .

I have the stock setup, mostly 105 & STX stuff, with Deore hubs. It's all working out very well, I really love the Panaracer TGs it came with (622-37 I think), and I prefer STI levers. They're not really that complex IMO, and you can always carry some friction levers to put on in an emergency which I will probably do when I finally quit my job and do some serious touring.

I do have a question about the shellac: does it make the bar tape last longer? I seem to go through mine every 4 - 6 months, which seems like a lot to me.

Anyway, to sum up: LHT = good,

Will post pictures if I can find my camera.

cmarkey

tribble
07-26-05, 12:13 PM
has anybody purchased a LHT frame very recently? it seems dealers only have the smallest size frames in stock anymore and a response from surly said that they're expecting new ones to be available in about a month -- but i'm not sure i can wait any longer!

dwightonabike
07-26-05, 12:56 PM
I will finish building this tonight! I'll post another picture when its done. It will have aero brake levers and down-tube shifters with black bar tape. I bought the frame (58) in the middle of April and had no trouble getting the size I wanted in less than a week. I was lucky with timing, I guess. I won't be able to tour quite yet, but I will by the time I save up for panniers and racks.

CdCf
07-26-05, 03:43 PM
I'm almost finished with my build.

When I'm done, it will have silver components (except for the outer chain ring and the seatpost clamp) and white saddle/bar tape.
Just a few little things to fix still.

Its nicest feature, though, is the massive gearing range I've given it - 674%!
From 15.8 to 106.5 gear inches!

To be able to use 26" wheels, I had to get the 54 cm model.
It's a bit too short, but I'll buy a longer stem in August to compensate for that.
My current stem is only 60 mm, and the new one will probably be 100 to 120 mm.
Haven't decided on the exact length yet.

Picture will follow later this week!

Bekologist
07-26-05, 03:55 PM
I'll post some photogs tomorrow.

CdCf
07-26-05, 05:19 PM
I just wish someone would make silver (not just grey) brake/shift cable housing!
That would look sooo cool!

amahana1
07-27-05, 01:00 PM
I just wish someone would make silver (not just grey) brake/shift cable housing!
That would look sooo cool!
They do. Nokon makes silver aluminum ferrule shift and brake housing. Its pricey but looks nice.

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/Profile.cfm?SKU=16556#

CdCf
07-27-05, 02:57 PM
Ah, yes, very pretty! :D
But I was thinking more along the lines of silver-coloured plastic... :)

KeatonR
01-08-06, 09:54 PM
Anyone else got some LHT pics? I'm thinking of getting one and building it up with a mtn bike bar for a town commuter ... would love to see some pics to help me as I save up.

Bekologist
01-08-06, 10:14 PM
It feels like I've posted a couple of LHT pics before, but i guess not...

left to right: fully loaded; on Blitzkreig tour-Dec. 2005; mudflaps

BLM
01-09-06, 06:58 AM
http://www.brendenmcnamee.com/cm/displayimage.php?album=16&pos=1

KeatonR
01-09-06, 01:38 PM
Great shots, thanks!

eofelis
01-09-06, 03:36 PM
Be still my heart! Great thread!

I had a thread on my new LHT a little while back:

Well here she is, finally. Not quite done, needs fenders.
http://community.webshots.com/album/82565251NmJWKQ

This is the itty bitty 42cm size model.
I have ridden it around town a few times. It has hauled some recyleables and delivered beer (to the LBS who ordered it for me), so it's good to go.

I think it looks quite proportional with the 26" wheels.

It's quicker and more nimble than it looks! It's a very nice ride. The fit is great too. I wanted the steer tube left long for a while, but I think I like it as it is.

Lemme think what it has on it:
105 crankset 52-42-24, 165mm crank arms
105 fr der
LX rear der
XT 12-34 cassette
Aero levers
DA dt shifters
Deore hubs, not sure what the wheels are, but would be upgraded for a big tour.
Conti Contact tires
Bontrager handlebars and stem
Extra brake levers (not sure of exact name for them)
Terry Lib Ti Race saddle
Jandd Expedition rear rack
Blackburn Mtn front rack (I'm going to see how it works out)
Planet Bike Freddy Fenders

I think I'm going to swap the cranks and r/der to an XT set up from another bike I have.

The only thing that is wierd is the placement of the water bottle cages. They are at mid-tube and a large water bottle won't fit in the seat tube bottle cage. I put a side entry cage on it. My Pacer does not have this problem.

eofelis
01-09-06, 03:40 PM
The bar-top levers are Nashbar/Tektro cyclocross levers, otherwise known as "interrupter" levers. They're designed to work with road brake levers: the brake cable runs through the 'cross levers as if they're not there, but they "interrupt" the cable housing (that is, one section of housing runs to the 'cross levers, and another section runs from them). When you actuate the 'cross levers, it has the effect of shortening the cable housing, which works the brakes. Very nifty, and not a hindrance to the regular levers at all.

I have cross levers on my LHT too. I really like them! They are so nifty that I had a set put on my Surly Pacer road bike too. I'm all about comfort on rides.

eofelis
01-09-06, 03:43 PM
And I can't say enough good things about getting my handlebars up around saddle height, a position easy to achieve with the LHT. This makes a HUGE difference to comfort. For the first time in ages, I find myself forgetting my position on the bike, since I no longer have to concentrate on keeping my arms and shoulders relaxed; the high bars put my upper body in an easy, relaxed position.

I had the steer tube left quite long on my LHT and I like the handlebar height on mine. I thought I might get it cut shorter later, but I'm going to leave it the way it is
:D

eofelis
01-09-06, 03:48 PM
MurrayLove, have you tried other touring bikes? How does the LHT ride compared to Trek 520 etc?

How is the LHT differ from the Crosscheck?



I went from a 2002 Trek 520 to the LHT. I ride the smallest size frames and I liked my 520, but I felt like it was a bit too big for me. It kind felt unwieldy. The LHT is a bit smaller and feels more in proportion to my size, with the 26" wheels.

My BF got a Crosscheck when I got my LHT. He also went from the 520 to the CC. He thinks the CC fits him better, and he thinks the CC is a bit quicker than the 520.

That all said, the 520 is still a fine bike. It all depends on what you like.

eofelis
01-09-06, 03:52 PM
has anybody purchased a LHT frame very recently? it seems dealers only have the smallest size frames in stock anymore and a response from surly said that they're expecting new ones to be available in about a month -- but i'm not sure i can wait any longer!

I got mine in Dec. I got the smallest size, 42cm.

It's worth the wait!

At our favorite LBS, my BF wanted to get a Crosscheck, but QBP was out of them. So the LBS had QBP (Surly) email them as soon as they had one in the size/color BF wanted. LBS put in the order as soon as the only 54cm green one came up.

NoReg
01-09-06, 05:18 PM
Speaking of which, now that green is gone, what do you think the better color will be. Seems like blue from what I have seen, but then the surly green looked different in just about every picture I saw of it, so how to tell.

What Murray said about his SUrly would have been true for my touring bike also. There is very little extra added to a frame to make it into a touring bike (of course they may choose heavier tubing or something that makes a difference on that score). So you get the longer wheel base which makes a big difference at negligible adds to the weight. Best deal going.

wsexson
01-09-06, 11:50 PM
I can't wait for mine either! I recently bought the components I am going to build it with, and the anticipation is killing me. Is it too much to hope that the new batch will be ready earlier than expected? :p

coconut in IA
01-10-06, 07:49 AM
Here is my green machine.... my booger on wheels.... my rolling bar.....

qqy
01-10-06, 03:16 PM
Is anyone riding with cross levers (in-line brakes) and a handlebar bag? My LBS is says it's not a good idea, but if I angle the brakes properly, they'll fit fine. (This question doesn't deserve its own thread and I saw them mentioned above).

Pigtire
01-10-06, 05:36 PM
I can't wait for mine either! I recently bought the components I am going to build it with, and the anticipation is killing me. Is it too much to hope that the new batch will be ready earlier than expected? :p

I forgot w/c LBS but the last time I checked they said availability was 1/16/06. Let's hope and wait :)

aadhils
01-10-06, 07:03 PM
Here's my LHT as a commuter, which of course was posted in the commuting forum:
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=163303 ...

metal_cowboy
01-10-06, 10:58 PM
Here is my post from several months ago. The LHT has been a great bike. The only changes I have made on the bike are a different seatpost to allow more setback for my Brooks saddle.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=151505&highlight=long+haul+trucker